Petition to Put an End to Teachers' Unions in Public Education!

[asaratis]

Petition Text: In the Spirit of Democracy, Independence and Authentic Progressivism, the People of the United States remain to be skeptical on America's Future. There have been program initiatives for many years to better our children's circumstances from the tyranny of the Teachers' Unions. In all disrespect, We the People are frustrated with these program initiatives because quite frankly, they do not work. There have been an increase of funding towards this system but it failed to improve our circumstance as well, this is due to the nature of the contracts by the Teachers' Unions. Greed. We the People hereby petition the Obama Administration to take full initiative in eliminating such unions from this public service, namely "Public Education".

Sign the Petition: http://wh.gov/Tu2

Why?

1. Public Education is a Public Service Career.
2. Public Education Receives Thousands to Millions of Dollars on a Monthly Basis.
3. Program Initiatives like "Race to the Top" or "No Child Left Behind" Don't Work.
4. Teachers' Benefits are Extraodinary Because It's State (Federal) Owned.

Sources:

True Costs of Public Education (From YouTube)
True Costs of Public Education (From Washington Post)

Where has education ever been made better by paying teachers less and making their jobs a less attractive career choice?

Somewhat correct. Their (teachers) jobs have been made an attractive career choice because of the unions. They do not have to perform to keep their jobs or get raises. They cannot be fired. They can be just as incompetent as you can imagine and still keep their jobs.

If teachers depended upon their PERFORMANCE to maintain a job (just as most non-government employees do), they would be humpin' to please by producing quality graduates. As it is, the average graduate from a big city high school is qualified for nothing other than a government job where they can sit on their asses, be overpaid for doing nothing and keep their jobs forever...like their incompetent teachers do. Hell they might even become teachers. After all, they don't really have to perform!

That makes a lot of sense...to a fucking liberal!

Petition Text: In the Spirit of Democracy, Independence and Authentic Progressivism, the People of the United States remain to be skeptical on America's Future. There have been program initiatives for many years to better our children's circumstances from the tyranny of the Teachers' Unions. In all disrespect, We the People are frustrated with these program initiatives because quite frankly, they do not work. There have been an increase of funding towards this system but it failed to improve our circumstance as well, this is due to the nature of the contracts by the Teachers' Unions. Greed. We the People hereby petition the Obama Administration to take full initiative in eliminating such unions from this public service, namely "Public Education".

Sign the Petition: http://wh.gov/Tu2

Why?

1. Public Education is a Public Service Career.
2. Public Education Receives Thousands to Millions of Dollars on a Monthly Basis.
3. Program Initiatives like "Race to the Top" or "No Child Left Behind" Don't Work.
4. Teachers' Benefits are Extraodinary Because It's State (Federal) Owned.

Sources:

True Costs of Public Education (From YouTube)
True Costs of Public Education (From Washington Post)

Reason one is irrelevant. Reason two is irrelevant and seems to be way too low (the US spends billions, not thousands or millions on public education every month). Reasons three and four are highly debatable (for example, private school teachers seem to receive more overall compensation than public school teachers, so it's not clear in what way public teachers' benefits are "[E]xtraordinary").

I hope you realize there are reasons other than your non-celebrity that people are declining to sign your petition.

Don't respond to this thread, again, I don't want fake liberals posting in this thread.

Freedom of speech requires that you withdraw that remark. Anyone of any political persuasion can reply to any thread at anytime in any manner they choose.

 

[rdean]

Petition Text: In the Spirit of Democracy, Independence and Authentic Progressivism, the People of the United States remain to be skeptical on America's Future. There have been program initiatives for many years to better our children's circumstances from the tyranny of the Teachers' Unions. In all disrespect, We the People are frustrated with these program initiatives because quite frankly, they do not work. There have been an increase of funding towards this system but it failed to improve our circumstance as well, this is due to the nature of the contracts by the Teachers' Unions. Greed. We the People hereby petition the Obama Administration to take full initiative in eliminating such unions from this public service, namely "Public Education".

Sign the Petition: http://wh.gov/Tu2

Why?

1. Public Education is a Public Service Career.
2. Public Education Receives Thousands to Millions of Dollars on a Monthly Basis.
3. Program Initiatives like "Race to the Top" or "No Child Left Behind" Don't Work.
4. Teachers' Benefits are Extraodinary Because It's State (Federal) Owned.

Sources:

True Costs of Public Education (From YouTube)
True Costs of Public Education (From Washington Post)

It's a start. But Republicans real goal is to get rid of teachers altogether. That's why they started "Sunday School". It's all you really need.

 

[CentristFiasco]

Petition Text: In the Spirit of Democracy, Independence and Authentic Progressivism, the People of the United States remain to be skeptical on America's Future. There have been program initiatives for many years to better our children's circumstances from the tyranny of the Teachers' Unions. In all disrespect, We the People are frustrated with these program initiatives because quite frankly, they do not work. There have been an increase of funding towards this system but it failed to improve our circumstance as well, this is due to the nature of the contracts by the Teachers' Unions. Greed. We the People hereby petition the Obama Administration to take full initiative in eliminating such unions from this public service, namely "Public Education".

Sign the Petition: http://wh.gov/Tu2

Why?

1. Public Education is a Public Service Career.
2. Public Education Receives Thousands to Millions of Dollars on a Monthly Basis.
3. Program Initiatives like "Race to the Top" or "No Child Left Behind" Don't Work.
4. Teachers' Benefits are Extraodinary Because It's State (Federal) Owned.

Sources:

True Costs of Public Education (From YouTube)
True Costs of Public Education (From Washington Post)

Where has education ever been made better by paying teachers less and making their jobs a less attractive career choice?

Somewhat correct. Their (teachers) jobs have been made an attractive career choice because of the unions. They do not have to perform to keep their jobs or get raises. They cannot be fired. They can be just as incompetent as you can imagine and still keep their jobs.

If teachers depended upon their PERFORMANCE to maintain a job (just as most non-government employees do), they would be humpin' to please by producing quality graduates. As it is, the average graduate from a big city high school is qualified for nothing other than a government job where they can sit on their asses, be overpaid for doing nothing and keep their jobs forever...like their incompetent teachers do. Hell they might even become teachers. After all, they don't really have to perform!

That makes a lot of sense...to a fucking liberal!

Reason one is irrelevant. Reason two is irrelevant and seems to be way too low (the US spends billions, not thousands or millions on public education every month). Reasons three and four are highly debatable (for example, private school teachers seem to receive more overall compensation than public school teachers, so it's not clear in what way public teachers' benefits are "[E]xtraordinary").

I hope you realize there are reasons other than your non-celebrity that people are declining to sign your petition.

Don't respond to this thread, again, I don't want fake liberals posting in this thread.

Freedom of speech requires that you withdraw that remark. Anyone of any political persuasion can reply to any thread at anytime in any manner they choose.

Is it that hard to register on the White House site, bro? You agreed with me countless times but no sign.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Petition Text: In the Spirit of Democracy, Independence and Authentic Progressivism, the People of the United States remain to be skeptical on America's Future. There have been program initiatives for many years to better our children's circumstances from the tyranny of the Teachers' Unions. In all disrespect, We the People are frustrated with these program initiatives because quite frankly, they do not work. There have been an increase of funding towards this system but it failed to improve our circumstance as well, this is due to the nature of the contracts by the Teachers' Unions. Greed. We the People hereby petition the Obama Administration to take full initiative in eliminating such unions from this public service, namely "Public Education".

Sign the Petition: http://wh.gov/Tu2

Why?

1. Public Education is a Public Service Career.
2. Public Education Receives Thousands to Millions of Dollars on a Monthly Basis.
3. Program Initiatives like "Race to the Top" or "No Child Left Behind" Don't Work.
4. Teachers' Benefits are Extraodinary Because It's State (Federal) Owned.

Sources:

True Costs of Public Education (From YouTube)
True Costs of Public Education (From Washington Post)

Where has education ever been made better by paying teachers less and making their jobs a less attractive career choice?

Teacher's have never been paid less because of the benefit of working for the public sector; as a result, what's the point of having a teachers' union?

So you have no example of where and how paying teachers less made education better.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Where has education ever been made better by paying teachers less and making their jobs a less attractive career choice?

Not sure but we sure as hell have amble evidence that dumping ungodly amounts of taxpayer money into education has NOT made a damn bit of difference in student performance.

You want teachers to be paid more? Let families decide where and how their children will be educated and allow the free market to respond to those demands. It's bad enough that governments try to fund education, it's untenable that they RUN education...unless of course it's shitty results and more public debt you're after.

Yes, let's end public education altogether and let only those who can pay for it educate their children.

That ought to work out real well.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Petition Text: In the Spirit of Democracy, Independence and Authentic Progressivism, the People of the United States remain to be skeptical on America's Future. There have been program initiatives for many years to better our children's circumstances from the tyranny of the Teachers' Unions. In all disrespect, We the People are frustrated with these program initiatives because quite frankly, they do not work. There have been an increase of funding towards this system but it failed to improve our circumstance as well, this is due to the nature of the contracts by the Teachers' Unions. Greed. We the People hereby petition the Obama Administration to take full initiative in eliminating such unions from this public service, namely "Public Education".

Sign the Petition: http://wh.gov/Tu2

Why?

1. Public Education is a Public Service Career.
2. Public Education Receives Thousands to Millions of Dollars on a Monthly Basis.
3. Program Initiatives like "Race to the Top" or "No Child Left Behind" Don't Work.
4. Teachers' Benefits are Extraodinary Because It's State (Federal) Owned.

Sources:

True Costs of Public Education (From YouTube)
True Costs of Public Education (From Washington Post)

Where has education ever been made better by paying teachers less and making their jobs a less attractive career choice?

Where has education ever been made better by paying teachers more?? Our government schools can't even prepare a student for college today.

So you cannot come up with a single example of where paying teachers less and making the teaching profession less attractive as a career made education better?

Anyone?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Petition Text: In the Spirit of Democracy, Independence and Authentic Progressivism, the People of the United States remain to be skeptical on America's Future. There have been program initiatives for many years to better our children's circumstances from the tyranny of the Teachers' Unions. In all disrespect, We the People are frustrated with these program initiatives because quite frankly, they do not work. There have been an increase of funding towards this system but it failed to improve our circumstance as well, this is due to the nature of the contracts by the Teachers' Unions. Greed. We the People hereby petition the Obama Administration to take full initiative in eliminating such unions from this public service, namely "Public Education".

Sign the Petition: http://wh.gov/Tu2

Why?

1. Public Education is a Public Service Career.
2. Public Education Receives Thousands to Millions of Dollars on a Monthly Basis.
3. Program Initiatives like "Race to the Top" or "No Child Left Behind" Don't Work.
4. Teachers' Benefits are Extraodinary Because It's State (Federal) Owned.

Sources:

True Costs of Public Education (From YouTube)
True Costs of Public Education (From Washington Post)

Where has education ever been made better by paying teachers less and making their jobs a less attractive career choice?

Somewhat correct. Their (teachers) jobs have been made an attractive career choice because of the unions. They do not have to perform to keep their jobs or get raises. They cannot be fired. They can be just as incompetent as you can imagine and still keep their jobs.

If teachers depended upon their PERFORMANCE to maintain a job (just as most non-government employees do), they would be humpin' to please by producing quality graduates. As it is, the average graduate from a big city high school is qualified for nothing other than a government job where they can sit on their asses, be overpaid for doing nothing and keep their jobs forever...like their incompetent teachers do. Hell they might even become teachers. After all, they don't really have to perform!

That makes a lot of sense...to a fucking liberal!

Reason one is irrelevant. Reason two is irrelevant and seems to be way too low (the US spends billions, not thousands or millions on public education every month). Reasons three and four are highly debatable (for example, private school teachers seem to receive more overall compensation than public school teachers, so it's not clear in what way public teachers' benefits are "[E]xtraordinary").

I hope you realize there are reasons other than your non-celebrity that people are declining to sign your petition.

Don't respond to this thread, again, I don't want fake liberals posting in this thread.

Freedom of speech requires that you withdraw that remark. Anyone of any political persuasion can reply to any thread at anytime in any manner they choose.

You need a masters degree (eventually) to teach in New York State. Pay teachers less, take away their power to negotiate pay and benefits, thus reducing the attractiveness of selecting teaching as a career and thus investing the tens of thousands of dollars needed to qualify,

and you think you'll get better people?

That is idiocy.

 

[The T]

Eh, let's get to the actual important issue of ending the department of education.

Should be included. Abolishment of Teacher's Unions should follow suit.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Petition Text: In the Spirit of Democracy, Independence and Authentic Progressivism, the People of the United States remain to be skeptical on America's Future. There have been program initiatives for many years to better our children's circumstances from the tyranny of the Teachers' Unions. In all disrespect, We the People are frustrated with these program initiatives because quite frankly, they do not work. There have been an increase of funding towards this system but it failed to improve our circumstance as well, this is due to the nature of the contracts by the Teachers' Unions. Greed. We the People hereby petition the Obama Administration to take full initiative in eliminating such unions from this public service, namely "Public Education".

Sign the Petition: http://wh.gov/Tu2

Why?

1. Public Education is a Public Service Career.
2. Public Education Receives Thousands to Millions of Dollars on a Monthly Basis.
3. Program Initiatives like "Race to the Top" or "No Child Left Behind" Don't Work.
4. Teachers' Benefits are Extraodinary Because It's State (Federal) Owned.

Sources:

True Costs of Public Education (From YouTube)
True Costs of Public Education (From Washington Post)

 

[The T]

Petition Text: In the Spirit of Democracy, Independence and Authentic Progressivism, the People of the United States remain to be skeptical on America's Future. There have been program initiatives for many years to better our children's circumstances from the tyranny of the Teachers' Unions. In all disrespect, We the People are frustrated with these program initiatives because quite frankly, they do not work. There have been an increase of funding towards this system but it failed to improve our circumstance as well, this is due to the nature of the contracts by the Teachers' Unions. Greed. We the People hereby petition the Obama Administration to take full initiative in eliminating such unions from this public service, namely "Public Education".

Sign the Petition: http://wh.gov/Tu2

Why?

1. Public Education is a Public Service Career.
2. Public Education Receives Thousands to Millions of Dollars on a Monthly Basis.
3. Program Initiatives like "Race to the Top" or "No Child Left Behind" Don't Work.
4. Teachers' Benefits are Extraodinary Because It's State (Federal) Owned.

Sources:

True Costs of Public Education (From YouTube)
True Costs of Public Education (From Washington Post)

It's a start. But Republicans real goal is to get rid of teachers altogether. That's why they started "Sunday School". It's all you really need.

There has been 'Sunday School' for a few hundred years you idiot.

Bigoted Racist jerk deany...

 

[The T]

Eh, let's get to the actual important issue of ending the department of education.

Should be included. Abolishment of Teacher's Unions should follow suit.

this is why you are not in charge of anything.

But should be. Free ride would be over. Duty would call...freeloaders cutoff.

 

[eflatminor]

Where has education ever been made better by paying teachers less and making their jobs a less attractive career choice?

Not sure but we sure as hell have amble evidence that dumping ungodly amounts of taxpayer money into education has NOT made a damn bit of difference in student performance.

You want teachers to be paid more? Let families decide where and how their children will be educated and allow the free market to respond to those demands. It's bad enough that governments try to fund education, it's untenable that they RUN education...unless of course it's shitty results and more public debt you're after.

Yes, let's end public education altogether and let only those who can pay for it educate their children.

That ought to work out real well.

Did I say "end public education altogether"? No, I said it's untenable that they RUN education. If state governments want to give money (vouchers or whatever) to "poor" citizens to help them pay for education, fine. But the fact governments try to oversee every aspect of it is why we can't seem to educate our children.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Divide and Conquer; a sign of patriotism?

 

[flacaltenn]

Where has education ever been made better by paying teachers less and making their jobs a less attractive career choice?

Teacher's have never been paid less because of the benefit of working for the public sector; as a result, what's the point of having a teachers' union?

So you have no example of where and how paying teachers less made education better.

That's an easy one...

Civic Report 50 | How Much Are Public School Teachers Paid?

Public school teachers are paid 61% more per hour than private school teachers, on average nationwide.

Batter Up!!!

Or -----

Any place NOT in the Washington DC school district. Highest per pupil SPENDING, lowest results..

 

[The T]

Divide and Conquer; a sign of patriotism?

Ask Obama the professional Community Organizer raised by Marxist Communists. Maybe he will give you a lecture for a modest sum?

 

[eflatminor]

Divide and Conquer; a sign of patriotism?

Ask Obama the professional Community Organizer raised by Marxist Communists. Maybe he will give you a lecture for a modest sum?

Modest sum my ass!

 

[Ernie S.]

Petition Text: In the Spirit of Democracy, Independence and Authentic Progressivism, the People of the United States remain to be skeptical on America's Future. There have been program initiatives for many years to better our children's circumstances from the tyranny of the Teachers' Unions. In all disrespect, We the People are frustrated with these program initiatives because quite frankly, they do not work. There have been an increase of funding towards this system but it failed to improve our circumstance as well, this is due to the nature of the contracts by the Teachers' Unions. Greed. We the People hereby petition the Obama Administration to take full initiative in eliminating such unions from this public service, namely "Public Education".

Sign the Petition: http://wh.gov/Tu2

Why?

1. Public Education is a Public Service Career.
2. Public Education Receives Thousands to Millions of Dollars on a Monthly Basis.
3. Program Initiatives like "Race to the Top" or "No Child Left Behind" Don't Work.
4. Teachers' Benefits are Extraodinary Because It's State (Federal) Owned.

Sources:

True Costs of Public Education (From YouTube)
True Costs of Public Education (From Washington Post)

Where has education ever been made better by paying teachers less and making their jobs a less attractive career choice?

Where has it been made better by throwing more money at it? How is education improved by tenure? By cushy pension plans?

 

[The T]

Petition Text: In the Spirit of Democracy, Independence and Authentic Progressivism, the People of the United States remain to be skeptical on America's Future. There have been program initiatives for many years to better our children's circumstances from the tyranny of the Teachers' Unions. In all disrespect, We the People are frustrated with these program initiatives because quite frankly, they do not work. There have been an increase of funding towards this system but it failed to improve our circumstance as well, this is due to the nature of the contracts by the Teachers' Unions. Greed. We the People hereby petition the Obama Administration to take full initiative in eliminating such unions from this public service, namely "Public Education".

Sign the Petition: http://wh.gov/Tu2

Why?

1. Public Education is a Public Service Career.
2. Public Education Receives Thousands to Millions of Dollars on a Monthly Basis.
3. Program Initiatives like "Race to the Top" or "No Child Left Behind" Don't Work.
4. Teachers' Benefits are Extraodinary Because It's State (Federal) Owned.

Sources:

True Costs of Public Education (From YouTube)
True Costs of Public Education (From Washington Post)

Where has education ever been made better by paying teachers less and making their jobs a less attractive career choice?

Where has it been made better by throwing more money at it? How is education improved by tenure? By cushy pension plans?

Indeed. it becomes more about the Teachers' future than the young skulls full of mush that they are teaching.

It's hideous, and obscene.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Our tax dollars go to fund a system that generates moronic, illiterate, useful idiot Democrat voter; it has to stop

 

[Wry Catcher]

Out tax dollars go to fund a system that generates moronic, illiterate, useful idiot Democrat voter; it has to stop

Frank, you're too stupid to teach a seagull to shit, I can't believe anyone pays you enough for you to worry about taxes.