Pete Rose Formally Petitions MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred for Reinstatement

Never. But nobody played the game harder than he did. He would sharpen his cleats to draw blood sliding into a base, and is famous for saying "baseball is no pink tea". He treated it as war.

Cobb was also involved in game fixing ith Tris Speaker in September 1919, a month before the Blacksox

Ty Cobb - Rule 5 An Analysis of the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame Character Clause

It was alleged he was game fixing, it was by a player released by Cobb and after no one picked him up off waivers, he went to the commissioner, but the player never showed at the hearing, so it was dismissed.

Eh -- again, not quite. Again from the Wiki page:

Leonard accused former pitcher and outfielder Smoky Joe Wood and Cobb of betting on a Tiger-Indian game played in Detroit on September 25, 1919, in which they allegedly orchestrated a Tiger victory to win the bet. Leonard claimed proof existed in letters written to him by Cobb and Wood.[3] Commissioner Kenesaw Mountain Landis held a secret hearing with Cobb, Speaker and Wood.[3] A second secret meeting among the AL directors led to the unpublicized resignations of Cobb and Speaker; however, rumors of the scandal led Judge Landis to hold additional hearings[3] in which Leonard subsequently refused to participate. Cobb and Wood admitted to writing the letters, but claimed that a horse-racing bet was involved and that Leonard's accusations were in retaliation for Cobb's having released him from the Tigers, thereby demoting him to the minor leagues.[3] Speaker denied any wrongdoing.[3]
-- which seems to me at least as intriguing as message board posters here claiming MLB "never revealed what it knows". Even though Wiki has that too...
I don't know how many times I have to ask: what was the prevailing rule at the time, that threatened a lifetime ban should it be violated?

I don't know, and I don't see how it would apply here anyway.

The poster (PG) tried to float the turd that the corruption case against Cobb and Speaker was a non-starter. It wasn't. I was making that clear.

The point of the post isn't Cobb or Speaker. It's a USMB poster making a dishonest post.
I didn't make a dishonest post. I read a link, not wiki, because I find wiki erroneous and many on this site discount wiki. So please quit your games bub.

It's getting to with all the initials in this freaking site. Pg, PO, jr, and on and on. Wish peeps weren't lazy asses. lol!
 
Cobb was also involved in game fixing ith Tris Speaker in September 1919, a month before the Blacksox

Ty Cobb - Rule 5 An Analysis of the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame Character Clause

It was alleged he was game fixing, it was by a player released by Cobb and after no one picked him up off waivers, he went to the commissioner, but the player never showed at the hearing, so it was dismissed.

Eh -- again, not quite. Again from the Wiki page:

Leonard accused former pitcher and outfielder Smoky Joe Wood and Cobb of betting on a Tiger-Indian game played in Detroit on September 25, 1919, in which they allegedly orchestrated a Tiger victory to win the bet. Leonard claimed proof existed in letters written to him by Cobb and Wood.[3] Commissioner Kenesaw Mountain Landis held a secret hearing with Cobb, Speaker and Wood.[3] A second secret meeting among the AL directors led to the unpublicized resignations of Cobb and Speaker; however, rumors of the scandal led Judge Landis to hold additional hearings[3] in which Leonard subsequently refused to participate. Cobb and Wood admitted to writing the letters, but claimed that a horse-racing bet was involved and that Leonard's accusations were in retaliation for Cobb's having released him from the Tigers, thereby demoting him to the minor leagues.[3] Speaker denied any wrongdoing.[3]
-- which seems to me at least as intriguing as message board posters here claiming MLB "never revealed what it knows". Even though Wiki has that too...
I don't know how many times I have to ask: what was the prevailing rule at the time, that threatened a lifetime ban should it be violated?

I don't know, and I don't see how it would apply here anyway.

The poster (PG) tried to float the turd that the corruption case against Cobb and Speaker was a non-starter. It wasn't. I was making that clear.

The point of the post isn't Cobb or Speaker. It's a USMB poster making a dishonest post.
I didn't make a dishonest post. I read a link, not wiki, because I find wiki erroneous and many on this site discount wiki. So please quit your games bub.

It's getting to with all the initials in this freaking site. Pg, PO, jr, and on and on. Wish peeps weren't lazy asses. lol!

Well you do have a longish name. Mine doesn't tax anybody's keyboard. :D
 
Orlando Cepeda -- busted on drug charges, made the Hall.
Grover Cleveland Alexander - "pitched better drunk than sober". Hall.
Wade Boggs: Sex addict. Hall.
Rogers Horsby: serious gambling addiction. Hall.
Do I have to point out - again - that none of them bet on baseball?

Do I have to answer - again - that Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle were both banned from baseball -- and they're in the Hall?

It's still two separate issues.
Were they banned for gambling on baseball?
 
Orlando Cepeda -- busted on drug charges, made the Hall.
Grover Cleveland Alexander - "pitched better drunk than sober". Hall.
Wade Boggs: Sex addict. Hall.
Rogers Horsby: serious gambling addiction. Hall.
Do I have to point out - again - that none of them bet on baseball?

Do I have to answer - again - that Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle were both banned from baseball -- and they're in the Hall?

It's still two separate issues.
Were they banned for gambling on baseball?

For association with casinos as I recall.
 

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