Personalities submitting to authority

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    "Communism and fascism or nazism, although poles apart in their intellectual content, are similar in this, that both have emotional appeal to the type of personality that takes pleasure in being submerged in a mass movement and submitting to superior authority."
    -- James A. C. Brown
    (1911-1964)

    Does this not sum up the Obamaheads as well? I'd say yes it does.
     
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    Not at all, the authoritarian follower personality types tend to gravitate to the right end of the spectrum in America.
     
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    While I disagree with your point, you've made me reassess mine. Allow me to restate: Does that quote not sum up ALL big government supporters whether they lean left or right? I think the answer is obvious.
     
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    Except that they're not poles apart in their intellectual content....Both are collectivist authoritarian mindsets, which subjugate the rights of the individual for the (claimed) good of the fatherland.

    Other than that, pretty much on the mark.
     
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    The authoritarian personality type craves a strongman leader that legitimizes their many prejudices, confirms their fears and engage in nationalistic displays of flag waving and religious patriotism. They want a general.
     
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    Well they got that in Obama! I've lost track of how many undeclared wars he's started.
     
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    You are quite right. And anyone who doubts what you've said here need only read any or all of the following books to find convincing support of it:

    Escape From Freedom, by Dr. Erich Fromm.

    Conservatives Without Conscience, by John Dean.

    The Authoritarians, by Prof. Bob Altemeyer.
     
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    Any doubts can be eliminated by looking at the current Chicago thug authoritarian strongman, currently squatting at 1600 Pennsylvania.
     
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    Those who follow liars need a consensus to feel they are doing the right thing.
     
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    Then why are you asking a question if you think the answer is obvious?

    ???

    Anyway, It would seem to me that the "big-government types" are more free-spirited than the stodgy (sp?) "small government" types.

    If you associate the "Burning Man Crowd" with liberalism and liberalism with big government....you must then associate the "TEA Party Crowd" with conservatism and small government. Right?

    Which one is less likely to subscribe to authority? The guys who are expressing themselves 100 different ways or the guys who are wrapping themselves in the flag?

    If you don't know what the Burning Man is, here is a link. Do follow and enjoy. I missed it this year :-(

    Burning Man :: Welcome Home
     

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