Persecution of Christians

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    Persecution by David Limbaugh, is quite interesting and is very apropo to our times. This book outlines in voluminous, researched detail the war taking place at this time in the educational, academic, political and judicial arenas against Christianity. This information is not reported by the national, liberal-learning media, of course, but it is taking place all across America. Anything Christian or pertaining to Christian beliefs is being attacked by the secularists, with the young members of society being their particular targets. If I had kids growing up right now, I would surely be an activist in this cause.
     
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    Iran holding Christian pastor for $116,000 ransom...
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    Wife: Jailed American Pastor Still Held in Iran
    WASHINGTON January 22, 2013 : Iran's semi-official news agency said Monday that a jailed American pastor of Iranian origin is to be released after posting $116,000 bond, but his wife in the U.S. claims Tehran has no intention of freeing him and that the announcement is "a game to silence" international media reports.
     
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    Ohh poor widdle persecuted christians. You just have a church for every few hundred people in the USA.
     
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    Still. I know that must kill you but the facts remain the facts irregardless of how much they annoy you.

    Interesting fact about your avatar. It isn't too far off you know? The real you IS invisible! You are a trichotomy. Three beings in one. God said, Let US make man in OUR image. What image? The image of God the Father, Jesus His Son and His Spoken Word, His Holy Spirit is a picture of Spirit - Soul - Body ( physical ) God is a Spirit and so are you although your spirit is NOT the Holy Spirit. So as a spirit you are an eternal being.

    Which simply means you are going to live eternally some place. Where that is, is up to you but I will give you a hint. Mockers lose. Big time.


    -Jeremiah
     
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    Globally, the wealth of the Catholic Church is estimated to be in excess of $3,000 Billion. It is the highest land owner of Manhattan Island. It owns more gold than all of Europe combined.

    For over 14 centuries, the Vatican was the undisputed wealthest single economic entity in the world.

    The problem is that the Catholic Church hides its wealth behind tens of thousands of front companies, blind trusts, off shore accounts and other financial loopholes to both avoid tax and the revelation of its wealth.

    See:
    http://one-faith-of-god.org/final_testam…

    And that is just the Catholic church.


    Poor widdle persecuted christians.
     
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    “Robertson lives on the top of a Virginia mountain, in a huge mansion with a private airstrip. He owns the Ice Capades [Pat Robertson's International Family Entertainment Inc bought Ice Capades In February 1995 from Dorothy Hamill for $10 million], a small hotel, diamond mines (in Zaire), a vitamin company (Kalo Vita) involved in a multi-level marketing scheme along the lines of Amway, and until recently, International Family Entertainment, parent company of the Family Channel … all estimated to be worth between $150-200 million”. How does a televangelist, who is supposedly involved in non-profit work, manage to create such a fortune for himself? One thing is known for sure, Robertson's numerous private business interests have at times pushed their expenses onto the tax-exempt, religious interests of CBN. For example, Robertson was caught using CBN money and equipment to aid his diamond mining operation -- a double good deal for Pat, seeing as he employed people in Zaire for ridiculously low wages, and managed to use CBN's infrastructure to cut costs even more. In looking at Robertson's businesses, one is struck by the constant use of non-profit, donor money to fund his schemes. (For documentation of this and more, see Rob Boston's book entitled The Most Dangerous Man in America?: Pat Robertson and the Rise of the Christian Coalition.)
     
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    Let's be clear: What Limbaugh refers to as 'persecution" simply means "lack of special treatment and privileges." I really don't see how not allowing Christianity special rights and dominance over other religious beliefs is persecution.

    Limbaugh is quite clear that he does not want neutrality or equal treatment, he wants Christian dominance and special government support.
     
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    Iranian court gives Abedini 8 years in prison...
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    Iran Sentences American Pastor to Eight Years’ Imprisonment
    January 27, 2013 – An Iranian court on Sunday sentenced Iranian-born American pastor Saeed Abedini – a convert from Islam to Christianity – to eight years’ imprisonment for “threatening the national security of Iran” by leading underground house churches, according to a U.S. religious organization closely involved in the case.
     
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    Christians bein' persecuted in India...
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    Violence against Christians Spreading in India
    February 11, 2013 – Hindu extremist attacks on Christians in Maharashtra state could expand even as violence elsewhere in India grows in areas where extremist groups had not beeen so active, Christian leaders said.
     
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    Granny says, "Dat's right - Iran persecutin' Christian pastor `cause he knows Jesus is the Savior o' the world...
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    80 Members of Congress Call on Kerry to Seek Release of American Pastor Imprisoned by Iran
    February 15, 2013 - More than 80 members of Congress have sent a letter to Secretary of State John Kerry urging him “to exhaust every possible option” to secure the release of American Pastor Saeed Abedini, who is facing a lengthy prison sentence in Iran because of his Christian faith.
     
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    Mooslamics persecutin' Copts in Egypt...
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    Islam or death? Egypt's Christians targeted by new terror group
    February 21, 2013 - A group of Christian priests from a local Coptic church in Egypt were told to convert to Islam or face death, according to an Arabic news site.
     
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    How do you know god said anything?
    Because some people wrote down that he did?
    Paper does not care what men write on it.


    And there is absolutely no proof that I or anyone else will live eternally in any plane of existence.
    What I am is the result of biochemical reactions and such in my brain, the combined experiences of my life, etc. When my brain dies I cease to exist. Period.

    You post proves that christians are the ones who practice the persecution.
     
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    Persecution of Christians in China...
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    China's Christians see mounting persecution in country's effort to disband churches, report finds
    February 21, 2013 - Christians and human rights advocates are alarmed over an aggressive crackdown on house churches in China, where the faithful are forced to call their gatherings "patriotic" assemblies or sent to prison where they can face torture, according to a new report.
     
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    Iran persecutin' American pastor...
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    Jailed American Pastor Writes of ‘Horrific,’ ‘Unbearable’ Conditions in Iranian Prison
    February 22, 2013 – Imprisoned American pastor Saeed Abedini wrote of what he called “horrific” and “unbearable” conditions in the Iranian prison where he is held after being convicted in January for being a Christian.
     
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    The idea that Christians are persecuted in the U.S. is beyond absurd and an insult to all groups of people that have actually suffered being persecuted.
     
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    But are these incidences persecution of Christians per se, or are Christians just part of overall intolerance of other religions?
    Let's look at the State Dept International Religious Freedom Reports.
    Iran:
    So it's not just Christians, and Christians have some measure of freedom not granted to some other groups.

    India:
    India varies by local government..there's discrimination against non-Hindus, especially Muslims and Christians, in some areas, and discrimination against non-Muslims in others, etc. I don't see any particular anti-Christian problem as opposed to poor treatment of Christians along with other minority religions.

    Egypt:
    So again, it's not explicitly Christian persecution.

    China:
    Is that persecution against Christians or against all theists?

    I find it interesting that those claiming Christian persecution never mention persecution against other religious minorities in the same country.
     
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    Right. I hear that is the case atheists brought before the courts in Europe.. Arrest any Christian overheard saying Jesus is the Only Way into Heaven and it is hell for all those who reject salvation. What is the crime called? Terrorism. They claim the gospel instills fear into their hearts. It should. Would you prefer to be awakened to the dangers of hell only after you are there? What kind of love would that be? Definitely not calvary love. That is for sure. If you want to go to hell, you are not going to do it with your blood on my hands. I will most assuredly tell you that you must be born again to enter the Kingdom of heaven. Without holiness, no one will see the LORD. God isn't grading on a curve here. You either take the holiness of Christ garment and put it upon you or you can forget it. You own righteous deeds are considered nothing more than filthy rags in the eyes of G-D Almighty. Put on Christ or stand before G-d naked and ashamed one day. He didn't send His Son to the Cross as a mere "option" of salvation. No. HE IS THE WAY TO SALVATION. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY. - Jeremiah
     
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    Whoever you heard that from was lying.
     
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    It's the law there.
     

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