People who make America an Awesome Country

[Mr Natural]

And for every good person like the one mentioned in the OP, there are 100 miserable pricks who'll fuck over their employess at a moments notice just to save a few bucks.

 

[RodISHI]

And for every good person like the one mentioned in the OP, there are 100 miserable pricks who'll fuck over their employess at a moments notice just to save a few bucks.

Anything to back that claim up? Or is it just personal opinion based on some experience? I have personally met a lot of small businessmen in my life. Most generally I have found them to have integrity. From my own personal experience I would say a few of the workers many times tries to shaft the business owner in as much as the business owner tries to keep everyone working. I've seen both sides from both angles. The most unethical I have ran across in my years is the one that are wannabe's. Those who are willing to shaft those under them in order to move up higher in the company.

 

[blu]

No, the reason the middle class is beyond struggling and becoming extinct is because of too much government that represents only the interests of the wealthy. They are able to buy socialism for themselves and stick the middle class and the poor with 'free markets'.

America today mirrors the sad history of Russia...a failed revolution. We are now burdened with the horrible effects of the failed Reagan revolution. Trickle down was really trickle UP, and Reagan, the great socialist, did more to redistribute wealth than ANY President. All the lessons learned during the Great Depression were suddenly null & void. Reagan and his right wing henchmen sicked the wealthy on the poor and middle class, easy picking when people are basically honest and conscientious and the arbitrators are NOT.

Our last great President defined the role of Chief Executive best:

"Harry Truman once said, 'There are 14 or 15 million Americans who have the resources to have representatives in Washington to protect their interests, and that the interests of the great mass of the other people - the 150 or 160 million - is the responsibility of the president of the United States, and I propose to fulfill it.'"
President John F. Kennedy

Reagan and Bush Jr are the antithesis of Kennedy's vision.

And now we have a government that is interested only in the poor. When do the middle class (the majority) get a government that cares about us?

And, for the record, I really dislike this class distinction that has become part of our culture. We don't need to be defined by 'class', we should be defined by our character.

It doesn't matter how you FEEL, class distinction has become a reality...a plutocracy

the damaging effects of raegan and bush will take decades to recover

 

[blu]

And now we have a government that is interested only in the poor. When do the middle class (the majority) get a government that cares about us?

And, for the record, I really dislike this class distinction that has become part of our culture. We don't need to be defined by 'class', we should be defined by our character.

It doesn't matter how you FEEL, class distinction has become a reality...a plutocracy

Image removed cuz it's boring crap.

I am at liberty to bemoan the coming of the 'class' society, if I am inclined to, you idiot.

so once again you have nothing?

 

[California Girl]

It doesn't matter how you FEEL, class distinction has become a reality...a plutocracy

Image removed cuz it's boring crap.

I am at liberty to bemoan the coming of the 'class' society, if I am inclined to, you idiot.

so once again you have nothing?

Even if I had nothing, I would still have more than you.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Wow , a nation of victims.

 

[Cuyo]

I have an honest question for the conservatives here; Where are we on isolationism? How do you guys feel about bringing jobs back, either through tarriffs on imports or on making laws to prohibit outsourcing, or any other means?

Isolationism would encourage same by other nations.

Our nation should, instead, encourage and incentivize individuals entering fields that keep the USA in the lead, globally.

First and foremost is education. All efforts and initiatives aimed at 'equity' or 'social justice' should be shelved in the interests of achievement and performance. BTW, it is this area that President Obama is preforming best, far surpassing any other foreign or domestic policies.

Am I reading too much into your post, or are you unaware that the United States of America is the number one exporter in the world, far outstripping number two?

1. The US is the 3rd largest exporter of goods (8.3%) , after Germany ( 9.5) and China (8.7)
2. The US is the largest exporter of services (13.9 %) followed by UK (8.3) and Germany ( 6.6)
3. Taken as a total of goods and services, the US is more than twice as prolific as the next nearest nation.
http://ita.doc.gov/td/industry/otea/US_Trade_Overview.pdf


And, of course, welcome to the board.

I wanna make babies with your avatar

 

[Bfgrn]

Wow , a nation of victims.

Such a noble, but empty statement. If pigs could fly, your statement would too...

 

[rr1]

Wow , a nation of victims.

The majority of the time it is their own blind ignorance that makes them the victims.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Wow , a nation of victims.

Such a noble, but empty statement. If pigs could fly, your statement would too...

Just lay quietly victim, we'll take care of you.

 

[Againsheila]

For anyone who thinks the private sector is just a bunch of evil moneygrabbers who don't care about anyone but themselves (that'll be many whining liberals), here is a great example of the kind of people run businesses in this country. He could have sold it and made even more money but he didn't. He gave it away - to the 209 people who worked for him.

What a totally cool guy. These are the people who can turn America around, not the idiots in Washington.


MILWAUKIE – Scores of employees gathered to help Bob Moore celebrate his 81st birthday this week at the company that bears his name, Bob's Red Mill Natural Foods.

Moore, whose mutual loves of healthy eating and old-world technologies spawned an internationally distributed line of products, responded with a gift of his own -- the whole company. The Employee Stock Ownership Plan Moore unveiled means that his 209 employees now own the place and its 400 offerings of stone-ground flours, cereals and bread mixes.

"This is Bob taking care of us," said Lori Sobelson, who helps run the business' retail operation. "He expects a lot out of us, but really gives us the world in return." Moore declined to say how much he thinks the company is worth. In 2004, however, one business publication estimated that year's revenues at more than $24 million. A company news release issued this week stated that Bob's Red Mill has chalked up an annual growth rate of between 20 percent to 30 percent every year since.


Founder of Bob's Red Mill Natural Foods transfers business to employees | Clackamas County News - OregonLive.com

He's not the first to do that, nor, hopefully, will he be the last. He is however, an EXCEPTION to the rule. Exactly what makes that story newsworthy.

 

[blu]

I am at liberty to bemoan the coming of the 'class' society, if I am inclined to, you idiot.

so once again you have nothing?

Even if I had nothing, I would still have more than you.

is it your goal to cover every fallacy daily?

 

[☭proletarian☭]

For anyone who thinks the private sector is just a bunch of evil moneygrabbers who don't care about anyone but themselves (that'll be many whining liberals), here is a great example of the kind of people run businesses in this country. He could have sold it and made even more money but he didn't. He gave it away - to the 209 people who worked for him.

What a totally cool guy. These are the people who can turn America around, not the idiots in Washington.


MILWAUKIE – Scores of employees gathered to help Bob Moore celebrate his 81st birthday this week at the company that bears his name, Bob's Red Mill Natural Foods.

Moore, whose mutual loves of healthy eating and old-world technologies spawned an internationally distributed line of products, responded with a gift of his own -- the whole company. The Employee Stock Ownership Plan Moore unveiled means that his 209 employees now own the place and its 400 offerings of stone-ground flours, cereals and bread mixes.

"This is Bob taking care of us," said Lori Sobelson, who helps run the business' retail operation. "He expects a lot out of us, but really gives us the world in return." Moore declined to say how much he thinks the company is worth. In 2004, however, one business publication estimated that year's revenues at more than $24 million. A company news release issued this week stated that Bob's Red Mill has chalked up an annual growth rate of between 20 percent to 30 percent every year since.


Founder of Bob's Red Mill Natural Foods transfers business to employees | Clackamas County News - OregonLive.com

So now the workers owned the company?

And you approve?


But that's.... communism!

 

[Againsheila]

For anyone who thinks the private sector is just a bunch of evil moneygrabbers who don't care about anyone but themselves (that'll be many whining liberals), here is a great example of the kind of people run businesses in this country. He could have sold it and made even more money but he didn't. He gave it away - to the 209 people who worked for him.

What a totally cool guy. These are the people who can turn America around, not the idiots in Washington.


MILWAUKIE – Scores of employees gathered to help Bob Moore celebrate his 81st birthday this week at the company that bears his name, Bob's Red Mill Natural Foods.

Moore, whose mutual loves of healthy eating and old-world technologies spawned an internationally distributed line of products, responded with a gift of his own -- the whole company. The Employee Stock Ownership Plan Moore unveiled means that his 209 employees now own the place and its 400 offerings of stone-ground flours, cereals and bread mixes.

"This is Bob taking care of us," said Lori Sobelson, who helps run the business' retail operation. "He expects a lot out of us, but really gives us the world in return." Moore declined to say how much he thinks the company is worth. In 2004, however, one business publication estimated that year's revenues at more than $24 million. A company news release issued this week stated that Bob's Red Mill has chalked up an annual growth rate of between 20 percent to 30 percent every year since.


Founder of Bob's Red Mill Natural Foods transfers business to employees | Clackamas County News - OregonLive.com

So now the workers owned the company?

And you approve?


But that's.... communism!

 

[☭proletarian☭]

The man you describe here is a shining example of what capitalism should be.
.

A path to communism/communal ownership of the means of production?


Marx would agree.

 

[blu]

For anyone who thinks the private sector is just a bunch of evil moneygrabbers who don't care about anyone but themselves (that'll be many whining liberals), here is a great example of the kind of people run businesses in this country. He could have sold it and made even more money but he didn't. He gave it away - to the 209 people who worked for him.

What a totally cool guy. These are the people who can turn America around, not the idiots in Washington.


MILWAUKIE – Scores of employees gathered to help Bob Moore celebrate his 81st birthday this week at the company that bears his name, Bob's Red Mill Natural Foods.

Moore, whose mutual loves of healthy eating and old-world technologies spawned an internationally distributed line of products, responded with a gift of his own -- the whole company. The Employee Stock Ownership Plan Moore unveiled means that his 209 employees now own the place and its 400 offerings of stone-ground flours, cereals and bread mixes.

"This is Bob taking care of us," said Lori Sobelson, who helps run the business' retail operation. "He expects a lot out of us, but really gives us the world in return." Moore declined to say how much he thinks the company is worth. In 2004, however, one business publication estimated that year's revenues at more than $24 million. A company news release issued this week stated that Bob's Red Mill has chalked up an annual growth rate of between 20 percent to 30 percent every year since.


Founder of Bob's Red Mill Natural Foods transfers business to employees | Clackamas County News - OregonLive.com

So now the workers owned the company?

And you approve?


But that's.... communism!

i really hope these socialism & communism posts are sarcasm. if you can't tell the difference between those two systems and what happened here, you really need to go back to school

 

[☭proletarian☭]

That's cuz you dumb. Socialism would have forced him to give his company to his employees. He did it cuz it was his company to do with as he chose. He chose to give it away rather than sell it. He is a good guy. You are an idiot.

Fail.


This is an example of capitalism evolving and progressing into communism. Interesting that he waited until he was plenty wealthy and probably didn't have too many more years to go.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

For anyone who thinks the private sector is just a bunch of evil moneygrabbers who don't care about anyone but themselves (that'll be many whining liberals), here is a great example of the kind of people run businesses in this country.

You don't speak for me CG, I happen to be a business owner in the private sector. The man you describe here is a shining example of what capitalism should be.

The problem is those who have already fulfilled every need that money can buy, but continue accumulating wealth through exploitation (the Waltons being public enemy #1). When you have billions of dollars, I'm not sure what you do with another $100 Million. It's a sickness, wealth for the sake of wealth, and in the last 30 years it has delivered sickening body blows to the now barely existent middle class.

I don't claim to speak for anyone but myself .

Really? What about putting word in peoples mouth, as highlighted in red?

 

[☭proletarian☭]

For anyone who thinks the private sector is just a bunch of evil moneygrabbers who don't care about anyone but themselves (that'll be many whining liberals), here is a great example of the kind of people run businesses in this country. He could have sold it and made even more money but he didn't. He gave it away - to the 209 people who worked for him.

What a totally cool guy. These are the people who can turn America around, not the idiots in Washington.


MILWAUKIE – Scores of employees gathered to help Bob Moore celebrate his 81st birthday this week at the company that bears his name, Bob's Red Mill Natural Foods.

Moore, whose mutual loves of healthy eating and old-world technologies spawned an internationally distributed line of products, responded with a gift of his own -- the whole company. The Employee Stock Ownership Plan Moore unveiled means that his 209 employees now own the place and its 400 offerings of stone-ground flours, cereals and bread mixes.

"This is Bob taking care of us," said Lori Sobelson, who helps run the business' retail operation. "He expects a lot out of us, but really gives us the world in return." Moore declined to say how much he thinks the company is worth. In 2004, however, one business publication estimated that year's revenues at more than $24 million. A company news release issued this week stated that Bob's Red Mill has chalked up an annual growth rate of between 20 percent to 30 percent every year since.


Founder of Bob's Red Mill Natural Foods transfers business to employees | Clackamas County News - OregonLive.com

So now the workers owned the company?

And you approve?


But that's.... communism!

i really hope these socialism & communism posts are sarcasm. if you can't tell the difference between those two systems and what happened here, you really need to go back to school

That the labourers should own the means of production is a basic principle of communist thought. Hence coops and the like.

He has created something very much like the worker-owned companies proposed by many reformist (as opposed to revolutionary) communists.

 

[California Girl]

You don't speak for me CG, I happen to be a business owner in the private sector. The man you describe here is a shining example of what capitalism should be.

The problem is those who have already fulfilled every need that money can buy, but continue accumulating wealth through exploitation (the Waltons being public enemy #1). When you have billions of dollars, I'm not sure what you do with another $100 Million. It's a sickness, wealth for the sake of wealth, and in the last 30 years it has delivered sickening body blows to the now barely existent middle class.

I don't claim to speak for anyone but myself .

Really? What about putting word in peoples mouth, as highlighted in red?

Try using that one remaining brain cell and you might understand the actual words. You're a fool, you know that, right?