People the last GOP budget was 2007

[JRK]

And we came within 162 billion dollars of breaking even for the year, we call a balanced budget

This would be with the Iraq war wide open

 

[Full-Auto]

And we came within 162 billion dollars of breaking even for the year, we call a balanced budget

This would be with the Iraq war wide open

Democrats have taken a new position on budgeting.

 

[Newby]

You would think they would have been breaking a law of some kind for not having a federal budget for over two years, it's completely ridiculous.

 

[uscitizen]

And we came within 162 billion dollars of breaking even for the year, we call a balanced budget

This would be with the Iraq war wide open

and remember the Iraq war was off the budget, recall the supplemental spending bills for the war?
After reviewing the other posts I guess some do not realize that?

 

[uscitizen]

Yes the new demoncrat position on spending is to include the war spending in the budget.

One of the few things I agree with Obama about.

 

[JRK]

Yes the new demoncrat position on spending is to include the war spending in the budget.

One of the few things I agree with Obama about.

the cost of the wars have all ways been in the total for the year
Please stop repeating that lie

UPDATE: Many Obama defenders in the comments are claiming that the numbers above do not include spending on Iraq and Afghanistan during the Bush years. They most certainly do. While Bush did fund the wars through emergency supplementals (not the regular budget process), that spending did not simply vanish. It is included in the numbers above. Also, some Obama defenders are claiming the graphic above represents biased Heritage Foundation numbers. While we stand behind the numbers we put out 100%, the numbers, and the graphic itself, above are from the Washington Post. We originally left out the link to WaPo. It has now been added.
Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures

 

[uscitizen]

Yes the new demoncrat position on spending is to include the war spending in the budget.

One of the few things I agree with Obama about.

the cost of the wars have all ways been in the total for the year
Please stop repeating that lie

UPDATE: Many Obama defenders in the comments are claiming that the numbers above do not include spending on Iraq and Afghanistan during the Bush years. They most certainly do. While Bush did fund the wars through emergency supplementals (not the regular budget process), that spending did not simply vanish. It is included in the numbers above. Also, some Obama defenders are claiming the graphic above represents biased Heritage Foundation numbers. While we stand behind the numbers we put out 100%, the numbers, and the graphic itself, above are from the Washington Post. We originally left out the link to WaPo. It has now been added.
Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures

that was not a lie, Bush did not include the war spending in his budget he sent to congress.
Obama did.

Yea I realize that at the FY end it all gets figured together as defecit spending totals, but not in the budget as submitted.

 

[JRK]

Yes the new demoncrat position on spending is to include the war spending in the budget.

One of the few things I agree with Obama about.

the cost of the wars have all ways been in the total for the year
Please stop repeating that lie

UPDATE: Many Obama defenders in the comments are claiming that the numbers above do not include spending on Iraq and Afghanistan during the Bush years. They most certainly do. While Bush did fund the wars through emergency supplementals (not the regular budget process), that spending did not simply vanish. It is included in the numbers above. Also, some Obama defenders are claiming the graphic above represents biased Heritage Foundation numbers. While we stand behind the numbers we put out 100%, the numbers, and the graphic itself, above are from the Washington Post. We originally left out the link to WaPo. It has now been added.
Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures

that was not a lie, Bush did not include the war spending in his budget he sent to congress.
Obama did.

Yea I realize that at the FY end it all gets figured together as defecit spending totals, but not in the budget as submitted.

Congress did vote on those numbers. I am un sure what that means, in fact it is a far more accurate way of tracking those cost and to make sure they go away when the war has ended as Iraq has
keeping the same baseline as we had in 2007 is a lie
Iraq is a fraction of what it was in 2007

 

[edthecynic]

And we came within 162 billion dollars of breaking even for the year, we call a balanced budget

This would be with the Iraq war wide open

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

Bush borrowed $500 billion to cover his 2007 budget shortfall in 2007.
Don't you ever get tired of repeating that lie????
Obviously not!!

 

[JRK]

And we came within 162 billion dollars of breaking even for the year, we call a balanced budget

This would be with the Iraq war wide open

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

Bush borrowed $500 billion to cover his 2007 budget shortfall in 2007.
Don't you ever get tired of repeating that lie????
Obviously not!!

But GWB only added 162 billion
thats not a lie
the remaining monies was to cover interest, not by his doing
Obama’s July Deficit More Than Bush’s Deficit for 2007 | Impeach Obama Campaign
U.S. 2007 Budget Deficit Falls to $163 Billion (Update1)
By John Brinsley - October 11, 2007 12:46 EDT

Oct. 11 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. government posted the smallest budget deficit in five years as tax revenue reached a record and spending rose at the slowest pace in George W. Bush's presidency.

The deficit narrowed to $162.8 billion in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, the third straight annual decline and lowest since $158 billion in 2002, the Treasury Department said today in Washington.
U.S. 2007 Budget Deficit Falls to $163 Billion (Update1) - Bloomberg

ITS NOT A LIE

 

[Leweman]

And we came within 162 billion dollars of breaking even for the year, we call a balanced budget

This would be with the Iraq war wide open

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

Bush borrowed $500 billion to cover his 2007 budget shortfall in 2007.
Don't you ever get tired of repeating that lie????
Obviously not!!

But GWB only added 162 billion
thats not a lie
the remaining monies was to cover interest, not by his doing
Obama’s July Deficit More Than Bush’s Deficit for 2007 | Impeach Obama Campaign
U.S. 2007 Budget Deficit Falls to $163 Billion (Update1)
By John Brinsley - October 11, 2007 12:46 EDT

Oct. 11 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. government posted the smallest budget deficit in five years as tax revenue reached a record and spending rose at the slowest pace in George W. Bush's presidency.

The deficit narrowed to $162.8 billion in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, the third straight annual decline and lowest since $158 billion in 2002, the Treasury Department said today in Washington.
U.S. 2007 Budget Deficit Falls to $163 Billion (Update1) - Bloomberg

ITS NOT A LIE

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! not facts! anything but facts!

 

[Sallow]

And we came within 162 billion dollars of breaking even for the year, we call a balanced budget

This would be with the Iraq war wide open

and remember the Iraq war was off the budget, recall the supplemental spending bills for the war?
After reviewing the other posts I guess some do not realize that?

He keeps ignoring that.

He also ignores the fact that a recent calculation of the Bush deficits found they were off by some 190 billion dollars.

 

[edthecynic]

And we came within 162 billion dollars of breaking even for the year, we call a balanced budget

This would be with the Iraq war wide open

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

Bush borrowed $500 billion to cover his 2007 budget shortfall in 2007.
Don't you ever get tired of repeating that lie????
Obviously not!!

But GWB only added 162 billion
thats not a lie
the remaining monies was to cover interest, not by his doing
Obama’s July Deficit More Than Bush’s Deficit for 2007 | Impeach Obama Campaign
U.S. 2007 Budget Deficit Falls to $163 Billion (Update1)
By John Brinsley - October 11, 2007 12:46 EDT

Oct. 11 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. government posted the smallest budget deficit in five years as tax revenue reached a record and spending rose at the slowest pace in George W. Bush's presidency.

The deficit narrowed to $162.8 billion in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, the third straight annual decline and lowest since $158 billion in 2002, the Treasury Department said today in Washington.
U.S. 2007 Budget Deficit Falls to $163 Billion (Update1) - Bloomberg

ITS NOT A LIE

It sure is!!! Bush borrowed $500 billion in 2007 causing the national debt to rise by $500 billion. If all Bush borrowed was $162 billion the debt would not have risen $500 billion.

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2010

09/30/2007 - $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 - $8,506,973,899,215.23

 

[Leweman]

And we came within 162 billion dollars of breaking even for the year, we call a balanced budget

This would be with the Iraq war wide open

and remember the Iraq war was off the budget, recall the supplemental spending bills for the war?
After reviewing the other posts I guess some do not realize that?

He keeps ignoring that.

He also ignores the fact that a recent calculation of the Bush deficits found they were off by some 190 billion dollars.

How do we know they aren't off now?

 

[JRK]

And we came within 162 billion dollars of breaking even for the year, we call a balanced budget

This would be with the Iraq war wide open

and remember the Iraq war was off the budget, recall the supplemental spending bills for the war?
After reviewing the other posts I guess some do not realize that?

He keeps ignoring that.

He also ignores the fact that a recent calculation of the Bush deficits found they were off by some 190 billion dollars.

Bud that 162 billion dollar number is from the CBO and the white house and are real numbers
what the hell is wrong with you people?
Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures
that graph is from the Washington post
it is real numbers and it includes both wars

 

[JRK]

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

Bush borrowed $500 billion to cover his 2007 budget shortfall in 2007.
Don't you ever get tired of repeating that lie????
Obviously not!!

But GWB only added 162 billion
thats not a lie
the remaining monies was to cover interest, not by his doing
Obama’s July Deficit More Than Bush’s Deficit for 2007 | Impeach Obama Campaign
U.S. 2007 Budget Deficit Falls to $163 Billion (Update1)
By John Brinsley - October 11, 2007 12:46 EDT

Oct. 11 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. government posted the smallest budget deficit in five years as tax revenue reached a record and spending rose at the slowest pace in George W. Bush's presidency.

The deficit narrowed to $162.8 billion in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, the third straight annual decline and lowest since $158 billion in 2002, the Treasury Department said today in Washington.
U.S. 2007 Budget Deficit Falls to $163 Billion (Update1) - Bloomberg

ITS NOT A LIE

It sure is!!! Bush borrowed $500 billion in 2007 causing the national debt to rise by $500 billion. If all Bush borrowed was $162 billion the debt would not have risen $500 billion.

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2010

09/30/2007 - $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 - $8,506,973,899,215.23

That is with interest added from over 200 years of debt
why are you liberals so desperate
your getting harmed as much from this mess as i am and by policy your numbers are a LIE

 

[edthecynic]

and remember the Iraq war was off the budget, recall the supplemental spending bills for the war?
After reviewing the other posts I guess some do not realize that?

He keeps ignoring that.

He also ignores the fact that a recent calculation of the Bush deficits found they were off by some 190 billion dollars.

Bud that 162 billion dollar number is from the CBO and the white house and are real numbers
what the hell is wrong with you people?
Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures
that graph is from the Washington post
it is real numbers and it includes both wars

But using two different accounting procedures. In the 2009 budget, 4 Bush accounting gimmicks to make the deficit look smaller were eliminated. That is why honest people use the increase in the national debt from year to year to calculate the true deficit because the debt is calculated the same for every year. Dishonest people don't use the change in the debt.

 

[JRK]

He keeps ignoring that.

He also ignores the fact that a recent calculation of the Bush deficits found they were off by some 190 billion dollars.

Bud that 162 billion dollar number is from the CBO and the white house and are real numbers
what the hell is wrong with you people?
Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures
that graph is from the Washington post
it is real numbers and it includes both wars

But using two different accounting procedures. In the 2009 budget, 4 Bush accounting gimmicks to make the deficit look smaller were eliminated. That is why honest people use the increase in the national debt from year to year to calculate the true deficit because the debt is calculated the same for every year. Dishonest people don't use the change in the debt.

what are you babbling about?
look we are well over 1 trillion dollars in debt every year
the 2009 budget GWB had nothing to do with except what rolled over from the 08 budget

 

[edthecynic]

But GWB only added 162 billion
thats not a lie
the remaining monies was to cover interest, not by his doing
Obama’s July Deficit More Than Bush’s Deficit for 2007 | Impeach Obama Campaign
U.S. 2007 Budget Deficit Falls to $163 Billion (Update1)
By John Brinsley - October 11, 2007 12:46 EDT

Oct. 11 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. government posted the smallest budget deficit in five years as tax revenue reached a record and spending rose at the slowest pace in George W. Bush's presidency.

The deficit narrowed to $162.8 billion in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, the third straight annual decline and lowest since $158 billion in 2002, the Treasury Department said today in Washington.
U.S. 2007 Budget Deficit Falls to $163 Billion (Update1) - Bloomberg

ITS NOT A LIE

It sure is!!! Bush borrowed $500 billion in 2007 causing the national debt to rise by $500 billion. If all Bush borrowed was $162 billion the debt would not have risen $500 billion.

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2010

09/30/2007 - $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 - $8,506,973,899,215.23

That is with interest added from over 200 years of debt
why are you liberals so desperate
your getting harmed as much from this mess as i am and by policy your numbers are a LIE

BULLSHIT!!! Any interest is from the trillions of debt run up by Reagan and Bush I and 6 years of Bush II reckless spending totaling over $3 trillion by 2007. So that is 18 years of CON$ervative borrow and spend policies.

 

[Maple]

And we came within 162 billion dollars of breaking even for the year, we call a balanced budget

This would be with the Iraq war wide open

I think it was the Democrats who were in control of congress at that time, they took it over in 2006, you might check your facts on this.