People below poverty line to hit levels not seen in half a century. Better off my ass

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Oddly enough the article contributes it partially to a "fraying safety net"

Seriously? We have more people living off the safety net and the govt even advertises the shit.
 
More in bad shape wanting more freebies from societal contributors... not inherently bad for DEM candidates when they will just keep up the class warfare rhetoric and the promises of more freebies

The ever flowing downward spiral that is a direct result of this entitlement mantra

The far lefties really don't care if the private sector is doing better
 
Oddly enough the article contributes it partially to a "fraying safety net"

Seriously? We have more people living off the safety net and the govt even advertises the shit.

The current admin wants more people to be dependent upon government. They will forever vote for the likes of the current admin.

I've heard ads recently announcing immediate openings and encouraging people to seek a career with the Secret Service.
 
From 1 in 6 to 1 in 7, recession seems to be lettin' up a bit...
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Study: One in Seven Americans Lives in Poverty
September 12, 2012 WASHINGTON — More than 46 million people were living in poverty in the United States last year as the lingering effects of the financial crisis boosted unemployment. Government experts say family incomes fell, but more people were covered by health insurance.
According to a U.S. Census Bureau report released Wednesday, about about 15 percent of people in the United States were living in poverty in 2011. The Census Bureau defines "poverty" as having an income below $23,021 a year for a family of four. Median U.S. incomes declined 1.5 percent last year to $50,054. Washington-based Brookings Institution scholar Ron Haskins blames persistent poverty on unemployment that rose during the financial crisis of 2008 and 2009, and remains stubbornly high. "It sure is taking a long time for the jobs to come back," said Haskins.

Even people like Kate, who has a job, but did not want her last name used, face difficult financial problems. "I don't know what we are going to do in the future. I don't know, we live, you know, it's a day-by-day situation," she said. Kate, her husband and three children live near Washington, D.C. She is a waitress. Her husband was a restaurant manager until an injury left him with broken bones and a concussion. Kate said he will be out of work for perhaps a year and workers compensation - a kind of insurance that helps people injured on the job - pays only 60 percent of what he made at work. "When he got injured, we started struggling and struggling," she said. Kate gets health insurance through her employer, but has to pay for it. Tens of millions of Americans receive health insurance through their work. The share of the cost paid by employers varies widely.

Wednesday's report shows that the number of people not covered by any kind of health insurance declined slightly last year to 49 million. Government-run plans covered more people, and a new law allows families to use a parent's health insurance to cover children until they are 26 years old. Rising health care costs in recent years have made health insurance a major issue when workers negotiate compensation with companies. Kate says her situation would go from difficult to desperate without health insurance. She also hopes her husband can quickly regain his health and bring home a paycheck.

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Granny says is `cause o' all dem rich folks dat's outsourcin' American jobs an' not payin' their fair share o' taxes...
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Poverty winning in 'war on poverty'
October 24, 2012 — Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan said Wednesday that, "in this war on poverty, poverty is winning" and he called for a retooled approach to help the 46 million people who are living in it.
In a speech in politically crucial Ohio, Ryan said he and running mate Mitt Romney would work to help the one in six Americans in poverty climb into the middle class and help keep those already in the middle class on solid financial footing. But he offered no specific or new policy proposals for how they would achieve that. "In this war on poverty, poverty is winning. We deserve better. We deserve a clear choice for a brighter future," said Ryan, a congressman from Wisconsin who also is chairman of the House Budget Committee. "Many of those living in poverty today were in the middle class just a few years ago. We can help them regain the ground they've lost," he added.

Yet Ryan criticized existing anti-poverty programs for spending too much with too few results. "Just last year, total federal and state spending on means-tested programs came in at more than one trillion dollars. How much is that in practical terms? For that amount of money, you could give every poor American a check for $22,000," he said. "Instead, we spend all that money attempting to fight poverty through government programs." "And what do we have to show for it?"

A spokesman for President Barack Obama, Danny Kanner, said Ryan's speech "existed in an alternate universe. Unfortunately for Mitt Romney, no matter how they couch it, their agenda is extreme." Kanner added that, "The American people understand that Mitt Romney would take us back, and no change in rhetoric in the campaign's final weeks can change that."

In his speech at Cleveland State University, Ryan said success can't be counted in dollars and cents. "In most of these programs, especially in recent years, we're still trying to measure compassion by how much government spends, not by how many people we help escape from poverty," Ryan said. The answer, he said, is education. "Sending your child to a great school should not be a privilege of the well-to-do," Ryan said. "Mitt Romney and I believe that choice should be available to every parent in our country, wherever they live."

More Ryan: Poverty winning in 'war on poverty' | CNSNews.com

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70% Say They're Better Off Than They Were 5 Years Ago--in China
October 23, 2012 - Times are tough – but not so bad in China.
“While the global financial crisis has taken a serious toll in many nations over the last few years, most Chinese report continued economic progress,” says the Pew Research Center’s Global Attitudes Project. “Indeed, 70% say they are better off financially than they were five years ago.” The Pew survey, based on interviews with 3,177 Chinese adults, was conducted between March 18 and April 15, and the findings were released on Oct. 16. “Additionally,” the survey found, “a remarkable 92% of Chinese say their standard of living is better than their parents’ at a similar age.”

The survey also found that roughly three-in-four residents of the Communist country agree that most people are better off in a free-market economy. Chinese attitudes towards America also have changed, with positive views of President Barack Obama and the nation as a whole declining. “The Chinese public increasingly expresses reservations about relations with the United States,” Pew said. “Over the last two years, ratings for the U.S. and President Obama have declined significantly.”

Pew found that the percentage of Chinese who characterize their country’s relationship with the U.S. as one of cooperation has “plummeted” nearly 30 points since 2010, from 68 percent to 39 percent. “Still, many Chinese embrace aspects of America’s soft power, including U.S. science and technology and American ideas about democracy,” the survey said.

More www.cnsnews.com/news/article/70-say-theyre-better-they-were-5-years-ago-china
 
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Oddly enough the article contributes it partially to a "fraying safety net"

Seriously? We have more people living off the safety net and the govt even advertises the shit.

I'm actually inclined to agree that a 'fraying safety net" is a contributing factor. The question is: Why is it fraying?

The fact that we have so many people receiving government assistance is not an indication that the safety net is strong. To the contrary, it's become overburdened. Government assistance does next to nothing to help a person improve their lot in life. At best, it keeps them on life support until they hopefully get some kind of mildly lucky break so they can progress from the ICU to the nursing home. The more people that receive government assistance, the less assistance that can be offered to individuals.

The solutions are not simple, though not entirely complicated either. But if we want to reverse this tide we're going to have to have success in recreating a more functional income distribution gap.
 
Oddly enough the article contributes it partially to a "fraying safety net"

Seriously? We have more people living off the safety net and the govt even advertises the shit.

I'm actually inclined to agree that a 'fraying safety net" is a contributing factor. The question is: Why is it fraying?

The fact that we have so many people receiving government assistance is not an indication that the safety net is strong. To the contrary, it's become overburdened. Government assistance does next to nothing to help a person improve their lot in life. At best, it keeps them on life support until they hopefully get some kind of mildly lucky break so they can progress from the ICU to the nursing home. The more people that receive government assistance, the less assistance that can be offered to individuals.

The solutions are not simple, though not entirely complicated either. But if we want to reverse this tide we're going to have to have success in recreating a more functional income distribution gap.

We need to penalize those sending jobs to China. And to promote job growth here.
The gummit does not have the balls and neither do we.
All we would have to do was dramatically reduce the chinese stuff we buy.
 
Another decade of this and maybe we will be able to compete in the global marketplace?

I'ev been thinking lately that maybe the best way to improve things would be to eliminate all welfare completely. Do it swiftly,quickly, and do it this January so that the people can't vent their anger by simply waiting around until the next election while looking for someone to promise them things will change back.

The point would be to provoke people en masse to revolt against the slave wage status quo, and demand livable wages.
 
Would not work. MOst on welfare cannot work and even if they could there is not nearly enough jobs to go around.
 
Would not work. MOst on welfare cannot work and even if they could there is not nearly enough jobs to go around.

You think they can't work? There's a whole lot of working poor on Welfare nowadays. Do you realize that 70% of employees at the country's largest employer are on welfare because their paycheck doesn't provide for their needs?

And as for jobs, the great thing is that if the income gap is tightened back to a reasonable level, it will provide natural economic stimulus that will lead to a jobs boom.
 
There are several factors behind this.

1. Education. America became number one by being innovative. We invent stuff. The smiley curve of manufacturing means that the big money is on two upper sides of that curve. One upper side of the smile is the innovation side. You innovate, you get rewarded. The other upper side is on the branding and selling side. Laptops are made in the same factory, but the one with the Apple logo on it will sell for a higher price. Same with shoes, the Nike logo fetches the higher price.

The lower parts of the smiley are manufacturing and transportation. There just isn't a lot of money there. Assembling a TV is grunt work. So let the little Chinese slaves do the lo-tech labor. The money is in hi-tech manufacturing.

That means we need to educate our workforce for the jobs of tomorrow, not yesterday's jobs. The days of growing up and going to work in your dad's factory are long gone. Get over it.

Nanotechnology, biogenetics, etc., these are where we need to be pushing our kids.

There is an argument to be made for keeping some of our manufacturing here. We should keep our hi-tech stuff here because innovation most often happens at the point of manufacture.

But lava lamps and TVs and stuff, there isn't much more room for innovation. Let that go. Start inventing holographic media and building that. Get to work inventing the next great thing. A flying car that runs on toxic waste. An energy plant for every house you install right next to your hot water heater.



2. The utter collapse of centrally planned economies. When Russia began imploding, India and China saw the writing on the wall for socialism and centrally planned economies. They began moving toward market based economies. And that meant about two fricking billion new laborers entered the competitive world labor market.

The suppressive effect this gigantic movement had on worldwide wages is absolutely impossible to avoid. Two billion workers added to what had been a total labor force of about 300 million is simply overwhelming. And until their wages begin to rise to the wages of the developed nations' wages, things are going to SUCK.

This factor is completely overlooked in debates about jobs and low wages.

China and India's working conditions and wages are about where ours were at the dawn of the Industrial Revolution. It won't take them a century to catch up, but it will take some time.

All the more reason we better get our ass in gear and start piling our resources into education and innovation, or we are going to get flattened.

Complaining is useless. Besides, we should all be very happy that billions of people are coming out from under the yoke of oppression! Come on! We should be welcoming them with open arms.


Anyway, that's enough for now. I know people tune out long posts.

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39.1 million people living in poverty in 2008. $10.6 trillion debt end of 08'. Over 800,000 jobs lost in Jan of 09 still under Bush policies. After the stimulus steady gains in jobs. 500 million created under Obama.
Got romneysia.
 

All that money we put into poverty is doing nothing but making them comfortable being lazy fucks

Fucking Village Idiot, people never get comfortable being poor. Welfare is not enough to exist and NO one lives on welfare. Who allowed 30 million below poverty into this country dropping anchor babies into the system. Who sent jobs out of the country and make million doing it leaving americans unemployed and on welfare and food stamps. And only families with children qualify of welfare any way which don't even pay for rent.

1.5 million children homeless. 70% foreclosured between 07-08.

Tell me you little punk ass fuck how we got here and who got us out?:mad:
 

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