Pension funds going "Tits Up" in 5 years, dont you love liberal promises?

Do you rely on others to take care of you?

  • I am liberal, i am too stupid, so need Guberment care from Cradle to Grave..

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • I am a consdervative and rely on myself to take care of me and my family. Anything else gravy...

    Votes: 3 60.0%

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    5

Mikeoxenormous

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U.S. Pension Fund Collapse Isn't a Distant Prospect. It Could Come in 5 Years.
What's in doubt is whether states will pay promised benefits to retirees with large pensions or significant outside income or assets. Also, although most of the problem is created by politicians and union leaders cutting deals to promise future unfunded benefits to keep voters happy.
2nd on the list is what is going on with Appl (Apple Inc.).
Why Apple Is Borrowing $6.5 Billion And What Obama's Trying To Do About It
Apple has previously used the proceeds of bond sales to fund share buybacks and appease investors such as the activist Carl Icahn who want to see it return more of its vast wealth to them. It borrowed $17bn in 2013 and sold €2.8bn (£2.1bn) in bonds on the European markets in November last year.
Apple was initially looking to raise $5bn in its new Wall Street bond sale, but boosted this to $6.5bn, Bloomberg reported, citing an anonymous source.
When you borrow money at zero percent interest and make a two percent return on dividends, that is still a profit for the shareholders...Now with interest rates over two percent Appl must dump their shares quick or start losing profit.(Liberal Elites love obscene profits even if it costs the US taxpayers billions).
Stocks slide as Apple drops 2%, rates rise
The announcement weighed on the entire technology sector. Shares of Apple fell nearly 2 percent, while Nvidia, Micron and Advanced Micro Devices all fell at least 1 percent.
Wall Street also kept an eye on rising interest rates, as the 10-year Treasury note yield broke above 2.9 percent.


If you want to rely on others to take care of you, you are going to be disappointed. Rely on yourself to take care of yourself, and you too, will not be losing your shirt when Pensions go "tits up"..
 
U.S. Pension Fund Collapse Isn't a Distant Prospect. It Could Come in 5 Years.
What's in doubt is whether states will pay promised benefits to retirees with large pensions or significant outside income or assets. Also, although most of the problem is created by politicians and union leaders cutting deals to promise future unfunded benefits to keep voters happy.
2nd on the list is what is going on with Appl (Apple Inc.).
Why Apple Is Borrowing $6.5 Billion And What Obama's Trying To Do About It
Apple has previously used the proceeds of bond sales to fund share buybacks and appease investors such as the activist Carl Icahn who want to see it return more of its vast wealth to them. It borrowed $17bn in 2013 and sold €2.8bn (£2.1bn) in bonds on the European markets in November last year.
Apple was initially looking to raise $5bn in its new Wall Street bond sale, but boosted this to $6.5bn, Bloomberg reported, citing an anonymous source.
When you borrow money at zero percent interest and make a two percent return on dividends, that is still a profit for the shareholders...Now with interest rates over two percent Appl must dump their shares quick or start losing profit.(Liberal Elites love obscene profits even if it costs the US taxpayers billions).
Stocks slide as Apple drops 2%, rates rise
The announcement weighed on the entire technology sector. Shares of Apple fell nearly 2 percent, while Nvidia, Micron and Advanced Micro Devices all fell at least 1 percent.
Wall Street also kept an eye on rising interest rates, as the 10-year Treasury note yield broke above 2.9 percent.


If you want to rely on others to take care of you, you are going to be disappointed. Rely on yourself to take care of yourself, and you too, will not be losing your shirt when Pensions go "tits up"..

You should fix that "condservative" while you still can. :)
 
U.S. Pension Fund Collapse Isn't a Distant Prospect. It Could Come in 5 Years.
What's in doubt is whether states will pay promised benefits to retirees with large pensions or significant outside income or assets. Also, although most of the problem is created by politicians and union leaders cutting deals to promise future unfunded benefits to keep voters happy.
2nd on the list is what is going on with Appl (Apple Inc.).
Why Apple Is Borrowing $6.5 Billion And What Obama's Trying To Do About It
Apple has previously used the proceeds of bond sales to fund share buybacks and appease investors such as the activist Carl Icahn who want to see it return more of its vast wealth to them. It borrowed $17bn in 2013 and sold €2.8bn (£2.1bn) in bonds on the European markets in November last year.
Apple was initially looking to raise $5bn in its new Wall Street bond sale, but boosted this to $6.5bn, Bloomberg reported, citing an anonymous source.
When you borrow money at zero percent interest and make a two percent return on dividends, that is still a profit for the shareholders...Now with interest rates over two percent Appl must dump their shares quick or start losing profit.(Liberal Elites love obscene profits even if it costs the US taxpayers billions).
Stocks slide as Apple drops 2%, rates rise
The announcement weighed on the entire technology sector. Shares of Apple fell nearly 2 percent, while Nvidia, Micron and Advanced Micro Devices all fell at least 1 percent.
Wall Street also kept an eye on rising interest rates, as the 10-year Treasury note yield broke above 2.9 percent.


If you want to rely on others to take care of you, you are going to be disappointed. Rely on yourself to take care of yourself, and you too, will not be losing your shirt when Pensions go "tits up"..

You should fix that "condservative" while you still can. :)
Too late....That will be also the pensioners, when they go bye bye...
 
U.S. Pension Fund Collapse Isn't a Distant Prospect. It Could Come in 5 Years.
What's in doubt is whether states will pay promised benefits to retirees with large pensions or significant outside income or assets. Also, although most of the problem is created by politicians and union leaders cutting deals to promise future unfunded benefits to keep voters happy.
2nd on the list is what is going on with Appl (Apple Inc.).
Why Apple Is Borrowing $6.5 Billion And What Obama's Trying To Do About It
Apple has previously used the proceeds of bond sales to fund share buybacks and appease investors such as the activist Carl Icahn who want to see it return more of its vast wealth to them. It borrowed $17bn in 2013 and sold €2.8bn (£2.1bn) in bonds on the European markets in November last year.
Apple was initially looking to raise $5bn in its new Wall Street bond sale, but boosted this to $6.5bn, Bloomberg reported, citing an anonymous source.
When you borrow money at zero percent interest and make a two percent return on dividends, that is still a profit for the shareholders...Now with interest rates over two percent Appl must dump their shares quick or start losing profit.(Liberal Elites love obscene profits even if it costs the US taxpayers billions).
Stocks slide as Apple drops 2%, rates rise
The announcement weighed on the entire technology sector. Shares of Apple fell nearly 2 percent, while Nvidia, Micron and Advanced Micro Devices all fell at least 1 percent.
Wall Street also kept an eye on rising interest rates, as the 10-year Treasury note yield broke above 2.9 percent.


If you want to rely on others to take care of you, you are going to be disappointed. Rely on yourself to take care of yourself, and you too, will not be losing your shirt when Pensions go "tits up"..

When you borrow money at zero percent interest

Apple can't borrow at 0%.

and make a two percent return on dividends, that is still a profit for the shareholders..

The shareholder profits because the buyback increases the price of his shares and the company earnings are
spread over fewer shares.

Now with interest rates over two percent Appl must dump their shares quick or start losing profit

You think Apple has to pay more interest on money they borrowed in the past, just because rates
rise today? Also, when Apple buys back shares, they're retired, they aren't sitting somewhere available
to be simply resold.
 
U.S. Pension Fund Collapse Isn't a Distant Prospect. It Could Come in 5 Years.
What's in doubt is whether states will pay promised benefits to retirees with large pensions or significant outside income or assets. Also, although most of the problem is created by politicians and union leaders cutting deals to promise future unfunded benefits to keep voters happy.
2nd on the list is what is going on with Appl (Apple Inc.).
Why Apple Is Borrowing $6.5 Billion And What Obama's Trying To Do About It
Apple has previously used the proceeds of bond sales to fund share buybacks and appease investors such as the activist Carl Icahn who want to see it return more of its vast wealth to them. It borrowed $17bn in 2013 and sold €2.8bn (£2.1bn) in bonds on the European markets in November last year.
Apple was initially looking to raise $5bn in its new Wall Street bond sale, but boosted this to $6.5bn, Bloomberg reported, citing an anonymous source.
When you borrow money at zero percent interest and make a two percent return on dividends, that is still a profit for the shareholders...Now with interest rates over two percent Appl must dump their shares quick or start losing profit.(Liberal Elites love obscene profits even if it costs the US taxpayers billions).
Stocks slide as Apple drops 2%, rates rise
The announcement weighed on the entire technology sector. Shares of Apple fell nearly 2 percent, while Nvidia, Micron and Advanced Micro Devices all fell at least 1 percent.
Wall Street also kept an eye on rising interest rates, as the 10-year Treasury note yield broke above 2.9 percent.


If you want to rely on others to take care of you, you are going to be disappointed. Rely on yourself to take care of yourself, and you too, will not be losing your shirt when Pensions go "tits up"..

When you borrow money at zero percent interest

Apple can't borrow at 0%.

and make a two percent return on dividends, that is still a profit for the shareholders..

The shareholder profits because the buyback increases the price of his shares and the company earnings are
spread over fewer shares.

Now with interest rates over two percent Appl must dump their shares quick or start losing profit

You think Apple has to pay more interest on money they borrowed in the past, just because rates
rise today? Also, when Apple buys back shares, they're retired, they aren't sitting somewhere available
to be simply resold.
I guess you didn't read any of the articles?
 
U.S. Pension Fund Collapse Isn't a Distant Prospect. It Could Come in 5 Years.
What's in doubt is whether states will pay promised benefits to retirees with large pensions or significant outside income or assets. Also, although most of the problem is created by politicians and union leaders cutting deals to promise future unfunded benefits to keep voters happy.
2nd on the list is what is going on with Appl (Apple Inc.).
Why Apple Is Borrowing $6.5 Billion And What Obama's Trying To Do About It
Apple has previously used the proceeds of bond sales to fund share buybacks and appease investors such as the activist Carl Icahn who want to see it return more of its vast wealth to them. It borrowed $17bn in 2013 and sold €2.8bn (£2.1bn) in bonds on the European markets in November last year.
Apple was initially looking to raise $5bn in its new Wall Street bond sale, but boosted this to $6.5bn, Bloomberg reported, citing an anonymous source.
When you borrow money at zero percent interest and make a two percent return on dividends, that is still a profit for the shareholders...Now with interest rates over two percent Appl must dump their shares quick or start losing profit.(Liberal Elites love obscene profits even if it costs the US taxpayers billions).
Stocks slide as Apple drops 2%, rates rise
The announcement weighed on the entire technology sector. Shares of Apple fell nearly 2 percent, while Nvidia, Micron and Advanced Micro Devices all fell at least 1 percent.
Wall Street also kept an eye on rising interest rates, as the 10-year Treasury note yield broke above 2.9 percent.


If you want to rely on others to take care of you, you are going to be disappointed. Rely on yourself to take care of yourself, and you too, will not be losing your shirt when Pensions go "tits up"..
/---/ I have a realitive who was a big time Union member and activist. He never stopped promoting the Union way of life and secure pension. A real IN YOUR FACE kinda guy when he got on his Union soap box. They the Union pension fund went belly up and he lost his pension. He kinda lost his enthusiasm when he learned how the money was squandered on lavish parties and retreats in exotic posts he could never afford.
 
U.S. Pension Fund Collapse Isn't a Distant Prospect. It Could Come in 5 Years.
What's in doubt is whether states will pay promised benefits to retirees with large pensions or significant outside income or assets. Also, although most of the problem is created by politicians and union leaders cutting deals to promise future unfunded benefits to keep voters happy.
2nd on the list is what is going on with Appl (Apple Inc.).
Why Apple Is Borrowing $6.5 Billion And What Obama's Trying To Do About It
Apple has previously used the proceeds of bond sales to fund share buybacks and appease investors such as the activist Carl Icahn who want to see it return more of its vast wealth to them. It borrowed $17bn in 2013 and sold €2.8bn (£2.1bn) in bonds on the European markets in November last year.
Apple was initially looking to raise $5bn in its new Wall Street bond sale, but boosted this to $6.5bn, Bloomberg reported, citing an anonymous source.
When you borrow money at zero percent interest and make a two percent return on dividends, that is still a profit for the shareholders...Now with interest rates over two percent Appl must dump their shares quick or start losing profit.(Liberal Elites love obscene profits even if it costs the US taxpayers billions).
Stocks slide as Apple drops 2%, rates rise
The announcement weighed on the entire technology sector. Shares of Apple fell nearly 2 percent, while Nvidia, Micron and Advanced Micro Devices all fell at least 1 percent.
Wall Street also kept an eye on rising interest rates, as the 10-year Treasury note yield broke above 2.9 percent.


If you want to rely on others to take care of you, you are going to be disappointed. Rely on yourself to take care of yourself, and you too, will not be losing your shirt when Pensions go "tits up"..

When you borrow money at zero percent interest

Apple can't borrow at 0%.

and make a two percent return on dividends, that is still a profit for the shareholders..

The shareholder profits because the buyback increases the price of his shares and the company earnings are
spread over fewer shares.

Now with interest rates over two percent Appl must dump their shares quick or start losing profit

You think Apple has to pay more interest on money they borrowed in the past, just because rates
rise today? Also, when Apple buys back shares, they're retired, they aren't sitting somewhere available
to be simply resold.
I guess you didn't read any of the articles?

I did.
None of them support your reasoning.
 
google monthly dividends. over 25 selling for less than $10/sh and I didn't get past AG in the third alphabetical list of issue symbols I checked before I ran out of available capital. If you can't provide for your own retirement with that many resources you got serious problems.
 
google monthly dividends. over 25 selling for less than $10/sh and I didn't get past AG in the third alphabetical list of issue symbols I checked before I ran out of available capital. If you can't provide for your own retirement with that many resources you got serious problems.
Yeah just look at how marijuana stocks have increased.
 
Into the hammock! What a great day! No need to get out to temp work for the fat lazy exploiters and their medieval day labor. 5:40 o´clock here, they start hurrying to work like the lemmings. Good that I am half-way invalid, so the gov´t has no moronic street cleaning job for me. Yeah, our city has fired most of the city cleaners and force the unemployed to do the job. Effectively, they forced the cleaners into unemployment and now force them to to the same work for less money.
I won´t lift a finger in my life again before they have cleaned up the mess and created proper conditions for a life in human dignity.
 

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