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Are you tired of Philadelphia, Chicago, Cleveland and Miami deciding the election as much as the rest of us are? Consider working within your states to apportion your electoral votes. If you start now, it might get done before 2016.
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Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes

Posted: Thursday, November 8, 2012

For Ohioans who are tired of hearing Republicans and Democrats argue over election rules, the state’s top elections official has a theoretical solution. Secretary of State Jon Husted says Ohio could apportion its Electoral College votes in the presidential race in a proportional way, giving even the loser a big chunk of votes. That’s the way only two other states do it, but Husted says at least it would dampen partisan conflict because Ohio would no longer be such a prize.

Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes / ideastream - Northeast Ohio Public Radio, Television and Multiple Media
 
Are you tired of Philadelphia, Chicago, Cleveland and Miami deciding the election as much as the rest of us are? Consider working within your states to apportion your electoral votes. If you start now, it might get done before 2016.
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Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes

Posted: Thursday, November 8, 2012

For Ohioans who are tired of hearing Republicans and Democrats argue over election rules, the state’s top elections official has a theoretical solution. Secretary of State Jon Husted says Ohio could apportion its Electoral College votes in the presidential race in a proportional way, giving even the loser a big chunk of votes. That’s the way only two other states do it, but Husted says at least it would dampen partisan conflict because Ohio would no longer be such a prize.

Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes / ideastream - Northeast Ohio Public Radio, Television and Multiple Media

Awesome how you pick four states that voted for Obama. I have a better idea. How about all the conservative states apportion their electoral votes while the Democrat states don't. Isn't that a great idea?
 
PA is not run by Philly. It's the counties outside of Philly that decide the state. Philly has always been a Democrat stronghold with usually 75-90% going Dem. In more recent times though (last 20 years or so) people that are tire of the crime and taxes from the city moved out to the suburbs. Bucks, Montgomery, Chester, Delaware, Lancaster and Berks counties are all pivotal places that decide how the state falls. These used to be staunch Republican bases but now with the immigration from the city, we see a lot of Democrats escaping Philly but still voting D. They don't like Philly because of the anti white establishment that the local Democratic party takes. They hate the city wage tax but still vote D in national elections. Nothing will really change this fundamentally. It's ingrained.
 
PA is not run by Philly. It's the counties outside of Philly that decide the state. Philly has always been a Democrat stronghold with usually 75-90% going Dem. In more recent times though (last 20 years or so) people that are tire of the crime and taxes from the city moved out to the suburbs. Bucks, Montgomery, Chester, Delaware, Lancaster and Berks counties are all pivotal places that decide how the state falls. These used to be staunch Republican bases but now with the immigration from the city, we see a lot of Democrats escaping Philly but still voting D. They don't like Philly because of the anti white establishment that the local Democratic party takes. They hate the city wage tax but still vote D in national elections. Nothing will really change this fundamentally. It's ingrained.

I know. It so drives me crazy. You screw up your city, then move out and screw up the towns outside.
 
Are you tired of Philadelphia, Chicago, Cleveland and Miami deciding the election as much as the rest of us are? Consider working within your states to apportion your electoral votes. If you start now, it might get done before 2016.
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Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes

Posted: Thursday, November 8, 2012

For Ohioans who are tired of hearing Republicans and Democrats argue over election rules, the state’s top elections official has a theoretical solution. Secretary of State Jon Husted says Ohio could apportion its Electoral College votes in the presidential race in a proportional way, giving even the loser a big chunk of votes. That’s the way only two other states do it, but Husted says at least it would dampen partisan conflict because Ohio would no longer be such a prize.

Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes / ideastream - Northeast Ohio Public Radio, Television and Multiple Media

Why would anyone from Ohio want to make Ohio less significant in the general election? Secondly, if only a handful of states followed this path, it would make the votes of that state even less relevant. Unless all states went this route, the idea doesn't make any sense. Of course, this currently would make sense for conservatives because they have and advantage in the House right now, which is how the votes would be divided up.

If every state apportioned their electoral votes by congressional district, then Romney would have won, even though Obama had about 3 million more votes. This makes even less sense than the EC.
 
Are you tired of Philadelphia, Chicago, Cleveland and Miami deciding the election as much as the rest of us are? Consider working within your states to apportion your electoral votes. If you start now, it might get done before 2016.
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Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes

Posted: Thursday, November 8, 2012

For Ohioans who are tired of hearing Republicans and Democrats argue over election rules, the state’s top elections official has a theoretical solution. Secretary of State Jon Husted says Ohio could apportion its Electoral College votes in the presidential race in a proportional way, giving even the loser a big chunk of votes. That’s the way only two other states do it, but Husted says at least it would dampen partisan conflict because Ohio would no longer be such a prize.

Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes / ideastream - Northeast Ohio Public Radio, Television and Multiple Media

Awesome how you pick four states that voted for Obama. I have a better idea. How about all the conservative states apportion their electoral votes while the Democrat states don't. Isn't that a great idea?

I would be fine with all states apportioning their votes. I don't think that one or two urban areas within the states should determine for everyone where that state goes.
 
PA is not run by Philly. It's the counties outside of Philly that decide the state. Philly has always been a Democrat stronghold with usually 75-90% going Dem. In more recent times though (last 20 years or so) people that are tire of the crime and taxes from the city moved out to the suburbs. Bucks, Montgomery, Chester, Delaware, Lancaster and Berks counties are all pivotal places that decide how the state falls. These used to be staunch Republican bases but now with the immigration from the city, we see a lot of Democrats escaping Philly but still voting D. They don't like Philly because of the anti white establishment that the local Democratic party takes. They hate the city wage tax but still vote D in national elections. Nothing will really change this fundamentally. It's ingrained.
67 counties in Pennsylvania and 55 of them voted for Romney.

Election Results 2012: Pennsylvania County By County | The Philly Post
 
Are you tired of Philadelphia, Chicago, Cleveland and Miami deciding the election as much as the rest of us are? Consider working within your states to apportion your electoral votes. If you start now, it might get done before 2016.
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Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes

Posted: Thursday, November 8, 2012

For Ohioans who are tired of hearing Republicans and Democrats argue over election rules, the state’s top elections official has a theoretical solution. Secretary of State Jon Husted says Ohio could apportion its Electoral College votes in the presidential race in a proportional way, giving even the loser a big chunk of votes. That’s the way only two other states do it, but Husted says at least it would dampen partisan conflict because Ohio would no longer be such a prize.

Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes / ideastream - Northeast Ohio Public Radio, Television and Multiple Media

Don't forget the Third World state of California. Automatic 50+ EV for a Dem candidate 99.9% of the time is totally unfair.
 
Are you tired of Philadelphia, Chicago, Cleveland and Miami deciding the election as much as the rest of us are? Consider working within your states to apportion your electoral votes. If you start now, it might get done before 2016.
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Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes

Posted: Thursday, November 8, 2012

For Ohioans who are tired of hearing Republicans and Democrats argue over election rules, the state’s top elections official has a theoretical solution. Secretary of State Jon Husted says Ohio could apportion its Electoral College votes in the presidential race in a proportional way, giving even the loser a big chunk of votes. That’s the way only two other states do it, but Husted says at least it would dampen partisan conflict because Ohio would no longer be such a prize.

Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes / ideastream - Northeast Ohio Public Radio, Television and Multiple Media

Awesome how you pick four states that voted for Obama. I have a better idea. How about all the conservative states apportion their electoral votes while the Democrat states don't. Isn't that a great idea?

All (or at least most) of the Conservative-leaning states have EC numbers below 10, you Liberal hack.
 
Are you tired of Philadelphia, Chicago, Cleveland and Miami deciding the election as much as the rest of us are? Consider working within your states to apportion your electoral votes. If you start now, it might get done before 2016.
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Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes

Posted: Thursday, November 8, 2012

For Ohioans who are tired of hearing Republicans and Democrats argue over election rules, the state’s top elections official has a theoretical solution. Secretary of State Jon Husted says Ohio could apportion its Electoral College votes in the presidential race in a proportional way, giving even the loser a big chunk of votes. That’s the way only two other states do it, but Husted says at least it would dampen partisan conflict because Ohio would no longer be such a prize.

Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes / ideastream - Northeast Ohio Public Radio, Television and Multiple Media

Awesome how you pick four states that voted for Obama. I have a better idea. How about all the conservative states apportion their electoral votes while the Democrat states don't. Isn't that a great idea?

I would be fine with all states apportioning their votes. I don't think that one or two urban areas within the states should determine for everyone where that state goes.

it's no more or less "fair" than small states getting a bigger electoral clout than their population would account for in the electoral college.
 
Are you tired of Philadelphia, Chicago, Cleveland and Miami deciding the election as much as the rest of us are? Consider working within your states to apportion your electoral votes. If you start now, it might get done before 2016.
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Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes

Posted: Thursday, November 8, 2012

For Ohioans who are tired of hearing Republicans and Democrats argue over election rules, the state’s top elections official has a theoretical solution. Secretary of State Jon Husted says Ohio could apportion its Electoral College votes in the presidential race in a proportional way, giving even the loser a big chunk of votes. That’s the way only two other states do it, but Husted says at least it would dampen partisan conflict because Ohio would no longer be such a prize.

Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes / ideastream - Northeast Ohio Public Radio, Television and Multiple Media

Awesome how you pick four states that voted for Obama. I have a better idea. How about all the conservative states apportion their electoral votes while the Democrat states don't. Isn't that a great idea?

All (or at least most) of the Conservative-leaning states have EC numbers below 10, you Liberal hack.

conservative leaning states with EC numbers below 10 are home to lots of prairie dogs and not lots of people. Prairie dogs don't count the same as people.... sorry.... neither do acres.
 
Ohio likes being a prize. It's a boost to our economy.

Yes Democracy works great when it devolves into Tax and spend to buy votes in a few key states.

at least it works great for people in the Swing states.

So are you advocating eliminating the EC?

I'm not. Just apportioning it. Candidate gets 60 % of the vote and is allocated 60 % of the state's electoral votes. Base the apportioning on the popular vote.
 
Are you tired of Philadelphia, Chicago, Cleveland and Miami deciding the election as much as the rest of us are? Consider working within your states to apportion your electoral votes. If you start now, it might get done before 2016.
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Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes

Posted: Thursday, November 8, 2012

For Ohioans who are tired of hearing Republicans and Democrats argue over election rules, the state’s top elections official has a theoretical solution. Secretary of State Jon Husted says Ohio could apportion its Electoral College votes in the presidential race in a proportional way, giving even the loser a big chunk of votes. That’s the way only two other states do it, but Husted says at least it would dampen partisan conflict because Ohio would no longer be such a prize.

Theoretical Way out of Election Process Fights: Apportion Electoral Votes / ideastream - Northeast Ohio Public Radio, Television and Multiple Media

No. I liked it this go-round. :)
 
Ohio likes being a prize. It's a boost to our economy.

Yes Democracy works great when it devolves into Tax and spend to buy votes in a few key states.

at least it works great for people in the Swing states.

Yes I know, non-swing states get the shit end of the stick. On a plus, you don't have 15 robo calls a day, constant knocking at your door asking who your voting for and political ads, on the tv, in the paper, and on every open space as far as the eye can see.
 

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