Peaceful Religion & Sharia Law

[Saigon]

iRose -

It seems to me that the term "nazi" has become synonymous with
those who either demand their own right to totalitarian rule via
an ideology of UTOPIANISM----or who simply are prone to
repeated acts of genocide------as for example----the armenian
genocide, the Biafran genocide, the east pakistani genocide,
the genocide of shiites and kurds in Iraq, genocides in Uganda,
a somewhat indolent genocide of christians and hindus in Kenya -
and of christians in lebanon and egypt and pakistan etc etc etc.

I use the term "nazi" in its only true definition - that of extreme right-wing politics based on racial hatred.

I do not see all genocide as being Nazi-inspired.

The increasing openness of crypto-fascist attitudes on this board should be a concern to everyone.

 

[flowery]

flowery----learn a bit of your own history-----the shiites of
Iran hate arabs. -----because arabs invaded iran and murdered
persians by the hundreds of thousands-----they never got
over it. An interesting story for you----long before
I knew the words "shiite" and "sunni" ---it was PAKISTANI
muslims who told me all about crazy people in Pakistan
who cut their scalps and beat themselves up and they
also mocked their prayer customs. I was clueless but
soft-hearted so I decided that these "crazy people" ---
were being unfairly mocked- -----It took me a long time
before I understood a bit more and how MUTUALLY
BLOODY this relationship has been for the past
1400 years. Not nice of you to mock those poor shiites
----so many of whom sunnis have murdered for no reason
at all. You guys should wake up and get over your idiotic
long standing and barbaric feud-----doing so would help in
getting over other manifestations of blood-lust

How is that ??? ,,, There were no shiites before Islam !!!!!!!!
Shittes start many years after Prophet Mohammad death , and still, they have no right to torture innocent people in such cruelty ways whether they are Muslim (Sonnie) or Christians or whatever religion they believe.
and If you read the truth correctly , you will notice that Iran (Shiittes) are one of the Islam's enemies
So read history right ,,

One more thing, Islam is represented by itself not by Muslims deeds because they are humans and make mistakes

 

[flowery]

I saw a special on this on PBS recently.
Totally disgusting. Imagine cranes pulling into your "Cul De Sac" one day and doing this.
Peaceful religion - my ass....

Because they are taught to hate the US from the schools or even their parents.

You are a new idiot, so I will repeat this for you. Islam is not a religion, it is a political ideology.
Believe it or not, I actually understand the difference between Muslims and terrorists. If you did you would not feel the need to attempt to educate others about how criminals are the problem. Criminals can be dealt with by police, not SEALs.

Religion of peace
Keep saying it long enough and fools will believe.

There is nothing peaceful about satans religion.

In my opinion islam is worse then the nazis.

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If that true ,, then why there are 20,000 Americans Convert To ISLAM Each Year ???

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfx4glTU5JQ]NBC NEWS: 20000 Americans Convert To ISLAM Each Year ! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Saigon]

You are NEVER going to convince the pro-Islamists that it is NOT a "religion of peace." That in spite of post after post here and on other forums showing the opposite.

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I think you mean 'Post after post from people who have never been to a Muslim country' and have absolutely no knowledge of the people, culture or religion whatsoever.

You'll find most people on this forum and elsewhere who have had any real first hand contact with Muslims hold far more balanced views.

You might also mention that much of the hatred we see whipped up on this forum is by people with neo-Nazi views. Some of the threads on this forum come straight out of Stormfront.

 

[irosie91]

iRose -

It seems to me that the term "nazi" has become synonymous with
those who either demand their own right to totalitarian rule via
an ideology of UTOPIANISM----or who simply are prone to
repeated acts of genocide------as for example----the armenian
genocide, the Biafran genocide, the east pakistani genocide,
the genocide of shiites and kurds in Iraq, genocides in Uganda,
a somewhat indolent genocide of christians and hindus in Kenya -
and of christians in lebanon and egypt and pakistan etc etc etc.

I use the term "nazi" in its only true definition - that of extreme right-wing politics based on racial hatred.

I do not see all genocide as being Nazi-inspired.

The increasing openness of crypto-fascist attitudes on this board should be a concern to
everyone.

Saigon----your claim to "THE ONLY TRUE DEFINITION" is
interesting---where did you find the ONE TRUE DEFINITION?
in the koran? I am sure you understand that in the
developement of languages words acquire conotations---
I consider genocides based on killing people who do
not adhere to the "RIGHT IDEOLOGY"----as very much
"NAZI"-----the "let's get rid of the group of people--
as a whole---men, women and children--- which
do not succumb to OUR DEFINITION OF CORRECT"---
to me is THE NAZI APPROACH--whether the issue is
race, political ideology, religion

I am fascinated----can you provide some examples
of "crypto fascism" on this board---I can certainly
get into some crypto fascism----that exists around the
world-----like ---for example---in INDONESIA

 

[irosie91]

flowery----learn a bit of your own history-----the shiites of
Iran hate arabs. -----because arabs invaded iran and murdered
persians by the hundreds of thousands-----they never got
over it. An interesting story for you----long before
I knew the words "shiite" and "sunni" ---it was PAKISTANI
muslims who told me all about crazy people in Pakistan
who cut their scalps and beat themselves up and they
also mocked their prayer customs. I was clueless but
soft-hearted so I decided that these "crazy people" ---
were being unfairly mocked- -----It took me a long time
before I understood a bit more and how MUTUALLY
BLOODY this relationship has been for the past
1400 years. Not nice of you to mock those poor shiites
----so many of whom sunnis have murdered for no reason
at all. You guys should wake up and get over your idiotic
long standing and barbaric feud-----doing so would help in
getting over other manifestations of blood-lust

How is that ??? ,,, There were no shiites before Islam !!!!!!!!
Shittes start many years after Prophet Mohammad death , and still, they have no right to
torture innocent people in such cruelty ways whether they are Muslim (Sonnie) or Christians or whatever religion they believe.
and If you read the truth correctly , you will notice that Iran (Shiittes) are one of the
Islam's enemies
So read history right ,,

One more thing, Islam is represented by itself not by Muslims deeds because they are humans and make mistakes

try again---flowery---your little lies are a bit too smelly
for you to use the SN "flowery" At no point did I
suggest that shiites PRECEDE muhummad ----in fact
the silly little story about his ambitious son-in-law
ALI----is alleged to be an event that took place
AFTER muhummad died and was an issue of succession--
I know that-----and I know the tactics of people who like
to toss little smelly lies around HOPING that no one will
notice or SMELL THEM

btw---if you imagine that you have something to teach
me-----THINK AGAIN

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

flowery----learn a bit of your own history-----the shiites of
Iran hate arabs. -----because arabs invaded iran and murdered
persians by the hundreds of thousands-----they never got
over it. An interesting story for you----long before
I knew the words "shiite" and "sunni" ---it was PAKISTANI
muslims who told me all about crazy people in Pakistan
who cut their scalps and beat themselves up and they
also mocked their prayer customs. I was clueless but
soft-hearted so I decided that these "crazy people" ---
were being unfairly mocked- -----It took me a long time
before I understood a bit more and how MUTUALLY
BLOODY this relationship has been for the past
1400 years. Not nice of you to mock those poor shiites
----so many of whom sunnis have murdered for no reason
at all. You guys should wake up and get over your idiotic
long standing and barbaric feud-----doing so would help in
getting over other manifestations of blood-lust

How is that ??? ,,, There were no shiites before Islam !!!!!!!!
Shittes start many years after Prophet Mohammad death , and still, they have no right to torture innocent people in such cruelty ways whether they are Muslim (Sonnie) or Christians or whatever religion they believe.
and If you read the truth correctly , you will notice that Iran (Shiittes) are one of the Islam's enemies
So read history right ,,

One more thing, Islam is represented by itself not by Muslims deeds because they are humans and make mistakes

Islam is not represented by itself but rather by the people who follow it. This is true of all organizations, religions, secret societies, etc.

By their fruits ye shall know them. - Jeri

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

flowery----learn a bit of your own history-----the shiites of
Iran hate arabs. -----because arabs invaded iran and murdered
persians by the hundreds of thousands-----they never got
over it. An interesting story for you----long before
I knew the words "shiite" and "sunni" ---it was PAKISTANI
muslims who told me all about crazy people in Pakistan
who cut their scalps and beat themselves up and they
also mocked their prayer customs. I was clueless but
soft-hearted so I decided that these "crazy people" ---
were being unfairly mocked- -----It took me a long time
before I understood a bit more and how MUTUALLY
BLOODY this relationship has been for the past
1400 years. Not nice of you to mock those poor shiites
----so many of whom sunnis have murdered for no reason
at all. You guys should wake up and get over your idiotic
long standing and barbaric feud-----doing so would help in
getting over other manifestations of blood-lust

How is that ??? ,,, There were no shiites before Islam !!!!!!!!
Shittes start many years after Prophet Mohammad death , and still, they have no right to
torture innocent people in such cruelty ways whether they are Muslim (Sonnie) or Christians or whatever religion they believe.
and If you read the truth correctly , you will notice that Iran (Shiittes) are one of the
Islam's enemies
So read history right ,,

One more thing, Islam is represented by itself not by Muslims deeds because they are humans and make mistakes

try again---flowery---your little lies are a bit too smelly
for you to use the SN "flowery" At no point did I
suggest that shiites PRECEDE muhummad ----in fact
the silly little story about his ambitious son-in-law
ALI----is alleged to be an event that took place
AFTER muhummad died and was an issue of succession--
I know that-----and I know the tactics of people who like
to toss little smelly lies around HOPING that no one will
notice or SMELL THEM

btw---if you imagine that you have something to teach
me-----THINK AGAIN

Amen to that.

 

[Osomir]

Islam is not represented by itself but rather by the people who follow it. This is true of all organizations, religions, secret societies, etc.

By their fruits ye shall know them. - Jeri

So should we Judge Christianity based on those Christians in Sub-Saharan Africa who have used religion as a means to justify violence? Or perhaps based on Christian history?

 

[irosie91]

Islam is not represented by itself but rather by the people who follow it. This is true of all organizations, religions, secret societies, etc.

By their fruits ye shall know them. - Jeri

So should we Judge Christianity based on those Christians in Sub-Saharan Africa who have used religion as a means to justify violence? Or perhaps based on Christian history?

OK you can judged the christians of some place where christians
are violent----as an issue RELATED to christianity ----based on whatever
violence they enact IN THE NAME OF CHRISTIANITY----

About a year ago some MILLION "hajjis" marched around
their rock in mecca chanting "death to america, death to Israel"
I judged those people scum and all those muslims who considered
that filth trivial and "OK" to be scum. If a million christians
sang a christmas carol including "lets kill anyone who is not christian"--
I would consider them to be scum----and those christian communties
that gave them tacit approval to be scum OK????? ----let
me know when it happens. I consider the supporter of the
INQUISITION-----queen ISABELLA ---to be scum ----and all those
who cheered the INQUISITION to be scum-----OK??? I consider
all those who laud sluts tho tie bombs to their asses in order
to kill children for JIHADIST GLORY to be scum too---

the reality is that TODAY----MILLIONS laud jihadist filth.
ALL of them are scum ------lots of people in the US
consider the TALIBAN to be heros -----I know because lots
TOLD ME -----they are scum too. Every person who supports
SHARIAH LAW in any country ----is SCUM-----because shariah
is racist filth

 

[flowery]

try again---flowery---your little lies are a bit too smelly
for you to use the SN "flowery" At no point did I
suggest that shiites PRECEDE muhummad ----in fact
the silly little story about his ambitious son-in-law
ALI----is alleged to be an event that took place
AFTER muhummad died and was an issue of succession--
I know that-----and I know the tactics of people who like
to toss little smelly lies around HOPING that no one will
notice or SMELL THEM

btw---if you imagine that you have something to teach
me-----THINK AGAIN

Lies !!!
I didn't lie ,, and if you want me to bring you evidences from their OWN books, where I can picture the same stories above and other more horrible ones ,,, surely I WILL
but the problem is ,, you don't know Arabic !!!

Any thing I wrote about Shiites in this board , I didn't lie about it, and you can read them in their books which are full of faked stories

Yes ,, you seems you need someone to teach you , because it is clear that you have no clue what is it in their book ,,,
You don't even know that Shiites' Imams, were admitted that stories and conversations in their books are faked not right, because they had been taken from lairs and not trusted people

 

[flowery]

Islam is not represented by itself but rather by the people who follow it. This is true of all organizations, religions, secret societies, etc.

By their fruits ye shall know them. - Jeri

Let's say that I am your best friend, and we have same thoughts, hobbies , and point of views
So we established a group that have your name and my name, this group has a specific goals, so you and me put certain rules and regulations in order to help this group to achieve their goals and maintain its success
One day, I break one of the rules and do something against the group and against your thoughts and what we agreed to believe . It was so bad that you feel sad and disappointed about it.

Do you think the mistake that I have done represents YOU ?

 

[flowery]

OK you can judged the christians of some place where christians
are violent----as an issue RELATED to christianity ----based on whatever
violence they enact IN THE NAME OF CHRISTIANITY----

About a year ago some MILLION "hajjis" marched around
their rock in mecca chanting "death to america, death to Israel"
I judged those people scum and all those muslims who considered
that filth trivial and "OK" to be scum. If a million christians
sang a christmas carol including "lets kill anyone who is not christian"--
I would consider them to be scum----and those christian communties
that gave them tacit approval to be scum OK????? ----let
me know when it happens. I consider the supporter of the
INQUISITION-----queen ISABELLA ---to be scum ----and all those
who cheered the INQUISITION to be scum-----OK??? I consider
all those who laud sluts tho tie bombs to their asses in order
to kill children for JIHADIST GLORY to be scum too---

the reality is that TODAY----MILLIONS laud jihadist filth.
ALL of them are scum ------lots of people in the US
consider the TALIBAN to be heros -----I know because lots
TOLD ME -----they are scum too. Every person who supports
SHARIAH LAW in any country ----is SCUM-----because shariah
is racist filth

Do you want PEACE ?? ,, then:
Tell your government and other governments about Newton's 3rd Law : (To every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction)

Leave the world in peace and no one will curse them

I don't know why some governments insist on teasing other countries ,, and yet they ask for peace !!

Their contradiction makes the rational person cry
People are dying in many countries because of the arrogance of some governments and stupidity,
Even their people "soldiers" send them to die in other countries

But can't you believe what some nations do today is a REACTION !!

Muslims never wish death to Americans because they are innocent and have nothing to do with what their government do, and the word (America) means their governments not the nation

thousands of People died In Afghanistan, Iraq, ,,, and Palestine (in help of America)
Yet, I didn't know why you are condemning the ink-stained banner , and not condemning the blood-stained bodies !

 

[flowery]

the reality is that TODAY----MILLIONS laud jihadist filth.
ALL of them are scum ------lots of people in the US
consider the TALIBAN to be heros -----I know because lots
TOLD ME -----they are scum too. Every person who supports
SHARIAH LAW in any country ----is SCUM-----because shariah
is racist filth

Shariah is not something changed from country to country ,, or from human to another, it is a religion, a clear religion you can understand from honest and impartial sources , so you really need help to understand what Shariah is


In some Muslim countries like UAE, there is no war, Americans and Non Muslim people are living peacefully there for so many years ,, so why don't you say that Shariah (Islam) is a peaceful religion !!

TALIBAN is a group of people ,, some of their actions are correct and others are wrong because they are human,

some of their action is called REACTION to what America did to them in the NAME OF TERRORISM

Your government and other Non Muslim governments enter every house in Afghanistan and Iraq in the name of terrorism , they kill innocent people
They destroyed the greatness of their country and destroyed their souls

Tell me now ,, which group is should be considered as racist filth !!!

 

[irosie91]

*** the reality is that TODAY----MILLIONS laud jihadist filth.
ALL of them are scum ------lots of people in the US
consider the TALIBAN to be heros -----I know because lots
TOLD ME -----they are scum too. Every person who supports
SHARIAH LAW in any country ----is SCUM-----because shariah
is racist filth

Shariah is not something changed from country to country ,, or from human to another, it is a religion, a clear religion you can understand from honest and impartial sources , so you really need help to understand what Shariah is

** flowery---you have nothing to tell me about shariah
which I do not know-----In fact I probably know it
far better than do you. I have spoken to lots of
very honest people about that filth. I find the filth
fascinating for its "internal logic" It works fine
for all people who want to believe that muslims are
entitled to RULE THE UNIVERSE


In some Muslim countries like UAE, there is no war, Americans and Non Muslim people are living peacefully there for so many years ,, so why don't you say that Shariah (Islam)
is a peaceful religion !!


*** Shariah is filth. THE UAE is filth----it functions on the
backs of enslaved workers from impoverished countries--
it is something like a pig with diamond earrings and
necklaces----when the diamonds fall off ---it still stinks--
Same is true of saudi arabia-----I know lots of people --
a few saudis and lots more who worked in that cesspit
for various periods of time.
Long ago---when I was young
during the "civil rights" era in the USA-----I lived in a some-
what nazi town-----there were people there who decided
slavery of black folk was not all that bad-----it was "peaceful"
too.


TALIBAN is a group of people ,, some of their actions are correct and others are wrong
because they are human,

I know who are the taliban---In fact I have had colleagues
who told me of classmates and relatives who are taliban.
The taliban are largely the CREAM OF PAKISTANI COLLEGE
GRADUATES---who have an agenda---the making of
of Afghanistan and Pakistan into a racist CALIPHATE
Lot of them even dream of the ultimate in disgusting
----THE RACIST MOGHUL EMPIRE. A joke of world war II was
"MUSSOLINI WAS NOT SO BAD--HE MADE THE TRAINS
RUN ONTIME" The taliban are totalitarian scum

some of their action is called REACTION to what America did to them in the NAME OF TERRORISM

****Try again----the taliban PRECEDE amercan involvement
with present day AFGHANISTAN---which is now a breeding
ground for terrorists. The issue which destroyed
Afghanistan was shariah. Long ago...even
Afghanistan was a culturally diverse and bright shining place
of scholarship----then shariah happened

Your government and other Non Muslim governments enter every house in Afghanistan and Iraq in the name of terrorism , they kill innocent people
They destroyed the greatness of their country and destroyed their souls


**** There is no quesstion that at one time---MANY CENTURIES AGO---
both Iraq and Afghanistan were great----then shariah
happened in both places and NOW they are both barbaric breeding
grounds of terrorism Pig Osama knew where he was going---
when he went to Afghanistan----like his mother's native
Yemen ---it is a good place to hide---lots of hills and
lots of primitive, barbaric and naive people Now it is just
as much a toilet as is Yemen. Both OVERFLOWING cesspits
spilling out terrorists

Tell me now ,, which group is should be considered as racist filth !!!

*** Anything that considers shariah anything than totalitarian
racism
It is no coincidence that the ONLY book that was
translated into arabic in the ENTIRE decade of the 1930s---
was MEIN KAMPF.. Racist supremacists seek their own.
The nuremburg code is rooted in the precise racist
supremacism as are the laws
of dhimmia----for the precise same purpose----oppression
and exploitation and ultimately genocide

 

[Hollie]

Islam is not represented by itself but rather by the people who follow it. This is true of all organizations, religions, secret societies, etc.

By their fruits ye shall know them. - Jeri

So should we Judge Christianity based on those Christians in Sub-Saharan Africa who have used religion as a means to justify violence? Or perhaps based on Christian history?

Your comment is not unreasonable, Osomir, but there are realities we have to acknowledge.

Can the “moderate” Muslims overcome the lethal realities of theocratic rule informed by unalterable doctrines in the Koran that command the killing of infidels (us) and imposition of islamic law on the entire world? Consider the realities of the near daily atrocities of muslims slamming away at both the infidels and other muslims. Ask yourself, “Do the radicals fear their moderate Muslim brothers and sisters or is it the other way around?” Which of the two groups is the dominant, controlling, operative reality of Islam? Which group is 100% hors de combat in the fight to dominate Western countries and kill or subjugate infidels?

Aside from whatever chosen interpretation one wishes to take away from selected “holy” verses, we have only to look at the examples set by the muslim world in order to come to conclusions about islam. The fact is, the only external example of islam we have is muslims. If one is going to come to conclusions about interpretations of such matters as forced religion, the muslim world provides those examples most everywhere.

As with most matters within the belief system, interpretation of the texts is selective and subjective. The greater truth is set by example.

 

[American_Jihad]

Islam is not represented by itself but rather by the people who follow it. This is true of all organizations, religions, secret societies, etc.

By their fruits ye shall know them. - Jeri

So should we Judge Christianity based on those Christians in Sub-Saharan Africa who have used religion as a means to justify violence? Or perhaps based on Christian history?

Executive Summary - Tolerance and Tension: Islam and Christianity in Sub-Saharan Africa - Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life

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