Peace and War

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    How do people who want peace gain any credibility and legitimacy? The people who want to go to war have the military industrial complex and the United States Department of Defense in their corner giving them instant credibility and legitimacy. In our current political system the pro go to war side has the main frame of the American system supporting them. While the pro peace side is labeled and portrayed as anti American. The facts to national and international issues are translated into sound bites and headlines that are the only information most American receive.

    Even people in power within the system have a hard time confronting the establishment on issues of war, a balance budget, guns, national security or the State of Israel. The more entrenched a system is the harder it is to change the ways of that system. Going against the grain of understanding of a society you become the enemy to many in that society. You will be discredited and mock by the establishment before your message is heard by the masses.

    Most of the military pundits said either we didn’t have enough troops in Iraq or the right-mix of military personnel in the early days of the war. The United States military had no problems with the bombing campaigns against Iraq. The United States Air Force had twelve years of practice in the airspace over Iraq. The United State had plenty of military force to win the war but not enough to win the peace. More American lives have been lost (almost two thousand lives) in Iraq trying to rebuild what we destroyed.

    Gunboat diplomacy can win wars but not peace. Only by having the proper amount of trained forces for each mission can the peace be won. Today the United States Government’s Foreign Policies have alienated America from most of the rest of the world. How many different ways can the truth be told that Americans will never understand? When the American leaders tell lies that only the American people believe. The people of the world cannot understand how such a great nation is misled by so few. Only by establishing a Department of Peace within the United States government can a balance between peace and war be established.

    What America needs is a Department of peace.
    http://www.thepeacealliance.org/main.htm

    Common sense says you cannot send more money that you have coming in for very long. Many people say you do not have to worry about the national debt as it is growing at an alarming rate.
    http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpdodt.htm
    http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

    The same people who say you do not have to worry about the growing national debt are pro military spending for more wars.
    http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/ArmsTrade/Spending.asp#USMilitarySpending

    The facts don’t lie, people in power do.
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    Okay then. Sure. Whatever.

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    Come on, he posted links this time. LINKS.
     
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    Well, for starters peaceniks who are really just anti-war, can distance themselves from total crackpots like Cindy Sheehan, who now makes a career of stalking President Bush to wherever might get her some camera time. And from those professional Socialist protesters, who go from city to city all over the world in their little black masks protesting everything related to Capitalism and the USA. You are bound to be judged by the company you keep.
     
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    and all this time I though US was on the side of the Israelis. Thank you David, for clearing that up. I missed the notice that we, meaning the US were on the side of the warmongers, the Palestinians.
    over two thousand, but not because of Israel, because of the same hate coming out of Palestine, funded by Syria and SA. [/quote]

    Gunboat diplomacy can win wars but not peace. Only by having the proper amount of trained forces for each mission can the peace be won. Today the United States Government’s Foreign Policies have alienated America from most of the rest of the world. How many different ways can the truth be told that Americans will never understand? When the American leaders tell lies that only the American people believe. The people of the world cannot understand how such a great nation is misled by so few. Only by establishing a Department of Peace within the United States government can a balance between peace and war be established.

    What America needs is a Department of peace.
    http://www.thepeacealliance.org/main.htm

    Common sense says you cannot send more money that you have coming in for very long. Many people say you do not have to worry about the national debt as it is growing at an alarming rate.
    http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpdodt.htm
    http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

    The same people who say you do not have to worry about the growing national debt are pro military spending for more wars.
    http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/ArmsTrade/Spending.asp#USMilitarySpending

    The facts don’t lie, people in power do.
    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20031013/corn

    My Blog have you spoken with Jim? You may be right David, for the wrong reasons, and right in a way you may not want to contemplate the outcome of.
     
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    David2004 is a fraud!
     

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