Pauley Parrette, and other stalking victims, paper or a gun? Their lives are lived in terror....

Should stalking victims be forced to live in fear, and killed, instead of carrying a gun for defense

  • yes

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  • no

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  • They are just trying to get attention from the stalker, the stalker is the victim....

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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On the show 48 hours last night they covered the topic of stalking victims.....and how the police and the court system cannot help them...even from violent, dangerous and oftentimes murderous stalkers......

Pauley Parrette is on the t.v. show NCIS...and has been stalked for 10 years......she has met an formed a group with 3 other women who are also being stalked.....and none of them can get help from the police or the courts....

--One of the women.....dated a man for a few months and he broke the relationship off.....he was gone for several months...then started emailing her with threats of rape, marriage, and death. She was at her home and he barged in and started screaming at her, then left. She got a restraining order.....the paper......she is a lawyer and law professor. He threw two full cans of paint through her window, breaking the cans open with the force and spraying paint all over her son's toys.

When the police arrived...........they accused her of making it up.......

She told them she was a lawyer, knew the law, and that they were obligated by her restraining order to arrest the guy......they gave her a copy of their report..........and did nothing.

Later, the same guy, who was stalking other women was picked up by the Los Angeles police Threat Management Unit....they handle stalkers......they were shocked at the treatment she recieved from the regular police, they put a case together against this guy, arrested him and he went to trial......

He recieved a felony stalking conviction, and recieved......5 years. He was out in two.

She lives in fear every single day of her life. The police cannot help her...she has a 10 year restraining order on him.......

The other woman in the story...her ex boyfriend continues to stalk her...he stays just outside the 100 yard perimeter of the restraining order.....he was also arrested and recieved a felony conviction for stalking......a 5 year probation sentence...........

So.....the other case was the singer from the Voice....she was shot in the head by her stalker leaving one of her concerts.......

Stalked: Part 2


Each of these women lives in fear every day of their lives...they have had to hide...changing their homes, their habits, living in self made prisons for the fear of nut jobs killing them.....

And the police....tell them over and over till the guys actually harm them, they can't help them.....

This is the question anti-gunners have to answer......should these women be allowed to carry a gun for self defense against these highly dangerous men...who have made specific threats of rape and death?

Keep in mind...the typical anti gun answer...if there were no guns in existence this wouldn't be a problem.....is a crap answer....here in Illinois a woman was murdered by her stalking husband with a 10 dollar Walmart camping axe....another girl on another 48 hour show was stabbed 70 times with a kitchen knife and in the same episode a woman had been doused with gasoline and set on fire....

So anti gunners...please tell us...and these women...that their Right to self defense is antiquated, and unnecessary.....and that the 2nd Amendment doesn't protect guns......since all guns at some point were used by the military, and therefore unusable by civilians......
 
On the show 48 hours last night they covered the topic of stalking victims.....and how the police and the court system cannot help them...even from violent, dangerous and oftentimes murderous stalkers......

Pauley Parrette is on the t.v. show NCIS...and has been stalked for 10 years......she has met an formed a group with 3 other women who are also being stalked.....and none of them can get help from the police or the courts....

--One of the women.....dated a man for a few months and he broke the relationship off.....he was gone for several months...then started emailing her with threats of rape, marriage, and death. She was at her home and he barged in and started screaming at her, then left. She got a restraining order.....the paper......she is a lawyer and law professor. He threw two full cans of paint through her window, breaking the cans open with the force and spraying paint all over her son's toys.

When the police arrived...........they accused her of making it up.......

She told them she was a lawyer, knew the law, and that they were obligated by her restraining order to arrest the guy......they gave her a copy of their report..........and did nothing.

Later, the same guy, who was stalking other women was picked up by the Los Angeles police Threat Management Unit....they handle stalkers......they were shocked at the treatment she recieved from the regular police, they put a case together against this guy, arrested him and he went to trial......

He recieved a felony stalking conviction, and recieved......5 years. He was out in two.

She lives in fear every single day of her life. The police cannot help her...she has a 10 year restraining order on him.......

The other woman in the story...her ex boyfriend continues to stalk her...he stays just outside the 100 yard perimeter of the restraining order.....he was also arrested and recieved a felony conviction for stalking......a 5 year probation sentence...........

So.....the other case was the singer from the Voice....she was shot in the head by her stalker leaving one of her concerts.......

Stalked: Part 2


Each of these women lives in fear every day of their lives...they have had to hide...changing their homes, their habits, living in self made prisons for the fear of nut jobs killing them.....

And the police....tell them over and over till the guys actually harm them, they can't help them.....

This is the question anti-gunners have to answer......should these women be allowed to carry a gun for self defense against these highly dangerous men...who have made specific threats of rape and death?

Keep in mind...the typical anti gun answer...if there were no guns in existence this wouldn't be a problem.....is a crap answer....here in Illinois a woman was murdered by her stalking husband with a 10 dollar Walmart camping axe....another girl on another 48 hour show was stabbed 70 times with a kitchen knife and in the same episode a woman had been doused with gasoline and set on fire....

So anti gunners...please tell us...and these women...that their Right to self defense is antiquated, and unnecessary.....and that the 2nd Amendment doesn't protect guns......since all guns at some point were used by the military, and therefore unusable by civilians......
Are these women complaining that they aren't allowed to have a firearm, or are you just deciding for them that they should be armed?
 
On the show 48 hours last night they covered the topic of stalking victims.....and how the police and the court system cannot help them...even from violent, dangerous and oftentimes murderous stalkers......

Pauley Parrette is on the t.v. show NCIS...and has been stalked for 10 years......she has met an formed a group with 3 other women who are also being stalked.....and none of them can get help from the police or the courts....

--One of the women.....dated a man for a few months and he broke the relationship off.....he was gone for several months...then started emailing her with threats of rape, marriage, and death. She was at her home and he barged in and started screaming at her, then left. She got a restraining order.....the paper......she is a lawyer and law professor. He threw two full cans of paint through her window, breaking the cans open with the force and spraying paint all over her son's toys.

When the police arrived...........they accused her of making it up.......

She told them she was a lawyer, knew the law, and that they were obligated by her restraining order to arrest the guy......they gave her a copy of their report..........and did nothing.

Later, the same guy, who was stalking other women was picked up by the Los Angeles police Threat Management Unit....they handle stalkers......they were shocked at the treatment she recieved from the regular police, they put a case together against this guy, arrested him and he went to trial......

He recieved a felony stalking conviction, and recieved......5 years. He was out in two.

She lives in fear every single day of her life. The police cannot help her...she has a 10 year restraining order on him.......

The other woman in the story...her ex boyfriend continues to stalk her...he stays just outside the 100 yard perimeter of the restraining order.....he was also arrested and recieved a felony conviction for stalking......a 5 year probation sentence...........

So.....the other case was the singer from the Voice....she was shot in the head by her stalker leaving one of her concerts.......

Stalked: Part 2


Each of these women lives in fear every day of their lives...they have had to hide...changing their homes, their habits, living in self made prisons for the fear of nut jobs killing them.....

And the police....tell them over and over till the guys actually harm them, they can't help them.....

This is the question anti-gunners have to answer......should these women be allowed to carry a gun for self defense against these highly dangerous men...who have made specific threats of rape and death?

Keep in mind...the typical anti gun answer...if there were no guns in existence this wouldn't be a problem.....is a crap answer....here in Illinois a woman was murdered by her stalking husband with a 10 dollar Walmart camping axe....another girl on another 48 hour show was stabbed 70 times with a kitchen knife and in the same episode a woman had been doused with gasoline and set on fire....

So anti gunners...please tell us...and these women...that their Right to self defense is antiquated, and unnecessary.....and that the 2nd Amendment doesn't protect guns......since all guns at some point were used by the military, and therefore unusable by civilians......
Gee, I'm sorry but who the fuck is saying people can not conceal carry with the roper permits & training?

And how would carrying a gun stop that person from being shot in the head?
 
On the show 48 hours last night they covered the topic of stalking victims.....and how the police and the court system cannot help them...even from violent, dangerous and oftentimes murderous stalkers......

Pauley Parrette is on the t.v. show NCIS...and has been stalked for 10 years......she has met an formed a group with 3 other women who are also being stalked.....and none of them can get help from the police or the courts....

--One of the women.....dated a man for a few months and he broke the relationship off.....he was gone for several months...then started emailing her with threats of rape, marriage, and death. She was at her home and he barged in and started screaming at her, then left. She got a restraining order.....the paper......she is a lawyer and law professor. He threw two full cans of paint through her window, breaking the cans open with the force and spraying paint all over her son's toys.

When the police arrived...........they accused her of making it up.......

She told them she was a lawyer, knew the law, and that they were obligated by her restraining order to arrest the guy......they gave her a copy of their report..........and did nothing.

Later, the same guy, who was stalking other women was picked up by the Los Angeles police Threat Management Unit....they handle stalkers......they were shocked at the treatment she recieved from the regular police, they put a case together against this guy, arrested him and he went to trial......

He recieved a felony stalking conviction, and recieved......5 years. He was out in two.

She lives in fear every single day of her life. The police cannot help her...she has a 10 year restraining order on him.......

The other woman in the story...her ex boyfriend continues to stalk her...he stays just outside the 100 yard perimeter of the restraining order.....he was also arrested and recieved a felony conviction for stalking......a 5 year probation sentence...........

So.....the other case was the singer from the Voice....she was shot in the head by her stalker leaving one of her concerts.......

Stalked: Part 2


Each of these women lives in fear every day of their lives...they have had to hide...changing their homes, their habits, living in self made prisons for the fear of nut jobs killing them.....

And the police....tell them over and over till the guys actually harm them, they can't help them.....

This is the question anti-gunners have to answer......should these women be allowed to carry a gun for self defense against these highly dangerous men...who have made specific threats of rape and death?

Keep in mind...the typical anti gun answer...if there were no guns in existence this wouldn't be a problem.....is a crap answer....here in Illinois a woman was murdered by her stalking husband with a 10 dollar Walmart camping axe....another girl on another 48 hour show was stabbed 70 times with a kitchen knife and in the same episode a woman had been doused with gasoline and set on fire....

So anti gunners...please tell us...and these women...that their Right to self defense is antiquated, and unnecessary.....and that the 2nd Amendment doesn't protect guns......since all guns at some point were used by the military, and therefore unusable by civilians......
Are these women complaining that they aren't allowed to have a firearm, or are you just deciding for them that they should be armed?


They shouldn't be put in the position of having to complain by gun grabbers in the first place.
 
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On the show 48 hours last night they covered the topic of stalking victims.....and how the police and the court system cannot help them...even from violent, dangerous and oftentimes murderous stalkers......

Pauley Parrette is on the t.v. show NCIS...and has been stalked for 10 years......she has met an formed a group with 3 other women who are also being stalked.....and none of them can get help from the police or the courts....

--One of the women.....dated a man for a few months and he broke the relationship off.....he was gone for several months...then started emailing her with threats of rape, marriage, and death. She was at her home and he barged in and started screaming at her, then left. She got a restraining order.....the paper......she is a lawyer and law professor. He threw two full cans of paint through her window, breaking the cans open with the force and spraying paint all over her son's toys.

When the police arrived...........they accused her of making it up.......

She told them she was a lawyer, knew the law, and that they were obligated by her restraining order to arrest the guy......they gave her a copy of their report..........and did nothing.

Later, the same guy, who was stalking other women was picked up by the Los Angeles police Threat Management Unit....they handle stalkers......they were shocked at the treatment she recieved from the regular police, they put a case together against this guy, arrested him and he went to trial......

He recieved a felony stalking conviction, and recieved......5 years. He was out in two.

She lives in fear every single day of her life. The police cannot help her...she has a 10 year restraining order on him.......

The other woman in the story...her ex boyfriend continues to stalk her...he stays just outside the 100 yard perimeter of the restraining order.....he was also arrested and recieved a felony conviction for stalking......a 5 year probation sentence...........

So.....the other case was the singer from the Voice....she was shot in the head by her stalker leaving one of her concerts.......

Stalked: Part 2


Each of these women lives in fear every day of their lives...they have had to hide...changing their homes, their habits, living in self made prisons for the fear of nut jobs killing them.....

And the police....tell them over and over till the guys actually harm them, they can't help them.....

This is the question anti-gunners have to answer......should these women be allowed to carry a gun for self defense against these highly dangerous men...who have made specific threats of rape and death?

Keep in mind...the typical anti gun answer...if there were no guns in existence this wouldn't be a problem.....is a crap answer....here in Illinois a woman was murdered by her stalking husband with a 10 dollar Walmart camping axe....another girl on another 48 hour show was stabbed 70 times with a kitchen knife and in the same episode a woman had been doused with gasoline and set on fire....

So anti gunners...please tell us...and these women...that their Right to self defense is antiquated, and unnecessary.....and that the 2nd Amendment doesn't protect guns......since all guns at some point were used by the military, and therefore unusable by civilians......
Are these women complaining that they aren't allowed to have a firearm, or are you just deciding for them that they should be armed?


They shouldn't be in the position of having to complain by gun grabbers in the first place.
What? Gun ownership wasn't mentioned, not by Pauley anyway--I read that one all the way through. The OP's link is not about gun ownership. It has nothing to do with it, except the OP's opinion that these poor frightened victims should be armed. The women aren't complaining about anything but lack of response by law enforcement!
 
On the show 48 hours last night they covered the topic of stalking victims.....and how the police and the court system cannot help them...even from violent, dangerous and oftentimes murderous stalkers......

Pauley Parrette is on the t.v. show NCIS...and has been stalked for 10 years......she has met an formed a group with 3 other women who are also being stalked.....and none of them can get help from the police or the courts....

--One of the women.....dated a man for a few months and he broke the relationship off.....he was gone for several months...then started emailing her with threats of rape, marriage, and death. She was at her home and he barged in and started screaming at her, then left. She got a restraining order.....the paper......she is a lawyer and law professor. He threw two full cans of paint through her window, breaking the cans open with the force and spraying paint all over her son's toys.

When the police arrived...........they accused her of making it up.......

She told them she was a lawyer, knew the law, and that they were obligated by her restraining order to arrest the guy......they gave her a copy of their report..........and did nothing.

Later, the same guy, who was stalking other women was picked up by the Los Angeles police Threat Management Unit....they handle stalkers......they were shocked at the treatment she recieved from the regular police, they put a case together against this guy, arrested him and he went to trial......

He recieved a felony stalking conviction, and recieved......5 years. He was out in two.

She lives in fear every single day of her life. The police cannot help her...she has a 10 year restraining order on him.......

The other woman in the story...her ex boyfriend continues to stalk her...he stays just outside the 100 yard perimeter of the restraining order.....he was also arrested and recieved a felony conviction for stalking......a 5 year probation sentence...........

So.....the other case was the singer from the Voice....she was shot in the head by her stalker leaving one of her concerts.......

Stalked: Part 2


Each of these women lives in fear every day of their lives...they have had to hide...changing their homes, their habits, living in self made prisons for the fear of nut jobs killing them.....

And the police....tell them over and over till the guys actually harm them, they can't help them.....

This is the question anti-gunners have to answer......should these women be allowed to carry a gun for self defense against these highly dangerous men...who have made specific threats of rape and death?

Keep in mind...the typical anti gun answer...if there were no guns in existence this wouldn't be a problem.....is a crap answer....here in Illinois a woman was murdered by her stalking husband with a 10 dollar Walmart camping axe....another girl on another 48 hour show was stabbed 70 times with a kitchen knife and in the same episode a woman had been doused with gasoline and set on fire....

So anti gunners...please tell us...and these women...that their Right to self defense is antiquated, and unnecessary.....and that the 2nd Amendment doesn't protect guns......since all guns at some point were used by the military, and therefore unusable by civilians......
Are these women complaining that they aren't allowed to have a firearm, or are you just deciding for them that they should be armed?


They shouldn't be in the position of having to complain by gun grabbers in the first place.
What? Gun ownership wasn't mentioned, not by Pauley anyway--I read that one all the way through. The OP's link is not about gun ownership. It has nothing to do with it, except the OP's opinion that these poor frightened victims should be armed. The women aren't complaining about anything but lack of response by law enforcement!


The OP didn't ask what the viewpoints were of the women in the story, he's asking members here what they think. Given how many Dem controlled cities hamper gun ownership and the ability to get conceal carry permits, it's a valid point to raise. It's really not difficult to figure that out.
 
On the show 48 hours last night they covered the topic of stalking victims.....and how the police and the court system cannot help them...even from violent, dangerous and oftentimes murderous stalkers......

Pauley Parrette is on the t.v. show NCIS...and has been stalked for 10 years......she has met an formed a group with 3 other women who are also being stalked.....and none of them can get help from the police or the courts....

--One of the women.....dated a man for a few months and he broke the relationship off.....he was gone for several months...then started emailing her with threats of rape, marriage, and death. She was at her home and he barged in and started screaming at her, then left. She got a restraining order.....the paper......she is a lawyer and law professor. He threw two full cans of paint through her window, breaking the cans open with the force and spraying paint all over her son's toys.

When the police arrived...........they accused her of making it up.......

She told them she was a lawyer, knew the law, and that they were obligated by her restraining order to arrest the guy......they gave her a copy of their report..........and did nothing.

Later, the same guy, who was stalking other women was picked up by the Los Angeles police Threat Management Unit....they handle stalkers......they were shocked at the treatment she recieved from the regular police, they put a case together against this guy, arrested him and he went to trial......

He recieved a felony stalking conviction, and recieved......5 years. He was out in two.

She lives in fear every single day of her life. The police cannot help her...she has a 10 year restraining order on him.......

The other woman in the story...her ex boyfriend continues to stalk her...he stays just outside the 100 yard perimeter of the restraining order.....he was also arrested and recieved a felony conviction for stalking......a 5 year probation sentence...........

So.....the other case was the singer from the Voice....she was shot in the head by her stalker leaving one of her concerts.......

Stalked: Part 2


Each of these women lives in fear every day of their lives...they have had to hide...changing their homes, their habits, living in self made prisons for the fear of nut jobs killing them.....

And the police....tell them over and over till the guys actually harm them, they can't help them.....

This is the question anti-gunners have to answer......should these women be allowed to carry a gun for self defense against these highly dangerous men...who have made specific threats of rape and death?

Keep in mind...the typical anti gun answer...if there were no guns in existence this wouldn't be a problem.....is a crap answer....here in Illinois a woman was murdered by her stalking husband with a 10 dollar Walmart camping axe....another girl on another 48 hour show was stabbed 70 times with a kitchen knife and in the same episode a woman had been doused with gasoline and set on fire....

So anti gunners...please tell us...and these women...that their Right to self defense is antiquated, and unnecessary.....and that the 2nd Amendment doesn't protect guns......since all guns at some point were used by the military, and therefore unusable by civilians......
Are these women complaining that they aren't allowed to have a firearm, or are you just deciding for them that they should be armed?


They shouldn't be in the position of having to complain by gun grabbers in the first place.
What? Gun ownership wasn't mentioned, not by Pauley anyway--I read that one all the way through. The OP's link is not about gun ownership. It has nothing to do with it, except the OP's opinion that these poor frightened victims should be armed. The women aren't complaining about anything but lack of response by law enforcement!


The OP didn't ask what the viewpoints were of the women in the story, he's asking members here what they think. Given how many Dem controlled cities hamper gun ownership and the ability to get conceal carry permits, it's a valid point to raise. It's really not difficult to figure that out.
If these women don't WANT that solution, it isn't up to the Death Goon to foist it upon them, or use them as his Victim of the Day to stir fear in the hearts of those not in possession of a legal handgun.
 
On the show 48 hours last night they covered the topic of stalking victims.....and how the police and the court system cannot help them...even from violent, dangerous and oftentimes murderous stalkers......

Pauley Parrette is on the t.v. show NCIS...and has been stalked for 10 years......she has met an formed a group with 3 other women who are also being stalked.....and none of them can get help from the police or the courts....

--One of the women.....dated a man for a few months and he broke the relationship off.....he was gone for several months...then started emailing her with threats of rape, marriage, and death. She was at her home and he barged in and started screaming at her, then left. She got a restraining order.....the paper......she is a lawyer and law professor. He threw two full cans of paint through her window, breaking the cans open with the force and spraying paint all over her son's toys.

When the police arrived...........they accused her of making it up.......

She told them she was a lawyer, knew the law, and that they were obligated by her restraining order to arrest the guy......they gave her a copy of their report..........and did nothing.

Later, the same guy, who was stalking other women was picked up by the Los Angeles police Threat Management Unit....they handle stalkers......they were shocked at the treatment she recieved from the regular police, they put a case together against this guy, arrested him and he went to trial......

He recieved a felony stalking conviction, and recieved......5 years. He was out in two.

She lives in fear every single day of her life. The police cannot help her...she has a 10 year restraining order on him.......

The other woman in the story...her ex boyfriend continues to stalk her...he stays just outside the 100 yard perimeter of the restraining order.....he was also arrested and recieved a felony conviction for stalking......a 5 year probation sentence...........

So.....the other case was the singer from the Voice....she was shot in the head by her stalker leaving one of her concerts.......

Stalked: Part 2


Each of these women lives in fear every day of their lives...they have had to hide...changing their homes, their habits, living in self made prisons for the fear of nut jobs killing them.....

And the police....tell them over and over till the guys actually harm them, they can't help them.....

This is the question anti-gunners have to answer......should these women be allowed to carry a gun for self defense against these highly dangerous men...who have made specific threats of rape and death?

Keep in mind...the typical anti gun answer...if there were no guns in existence this wouldn't be a problem.....is a crap answer....here in Illinois a woman was murdered by her stalking husband with a 10 dollar Walmart camping axe....another girl on another 48 hour show was stabbed 70 times with a kitchen knife and in the same episode a woman had been doused with gasoline and set on fire....

So anti gunners...please tell us...and these women...that their Right to self defense is antiquated, and unnecessary.....and that the 2nd Amendment doesn't protect guns......since all guns at some point were used by the military, and therefore unusable by civilians......
Are these women complaining that they aren't allowed to have a firearm, or are you just deciding for them that they should be armed?


They shouldn't be in the position of having to complain by gun grabbers in the first place.
What? Gun ownership wasn't mentioned, not by Pauley anyway--I read that one all the way through. The OP's link is not about gun ownership. It has nothing to do with it, except the OP's opinion that these poor frightened victims should be armed. The women aren't complaining about anything but lack of response by law enforcement!


The OP didn't ask what the viewpoints were of the women in the story, he's asking members here what they think. Given how many Dem controlled cities hamper gun ownership and the ability to get conceal carry permits, it's a valid point to raise. It's really not difficult to figure that out.
If these women don't WANT that solution, it isn't up to the Death Goon to foist it upon them, or use them as his Victim of the Day to stir fear in the hearts of those not in possession of a legal handgun.


Please quote where he says they should be forced to own a gun.
 
Are these women complaining that they aren't allowed to have a firearm, or are you just deciding for them that they should be armed?


They shouldn't be in the position of having to complain by gun grabbers in the first place.
What? Gun ownership wasn't mentioned, not by Pauley anyway--I read that one all the way through. The OP's link is not about gun ownership. It has nothing to do with it, except the OP's opinion that these poor frightened victims should be armed. The women aren't complaining about anything but lack of response by law enforcement!


The OP didn't ask what the viewpoints were of the women in the story, he's asking members here what they think. Given how many Dem controlled cities hamper gun ownership and the ability to get conceal carry permits, it's a valid point to raise. It's really not difficult to figure that out.
If these women don't WANT that solution, it isn't up to the Death Goon to foist it upon them, or use them as his Victim of the Day to stir fear in the hearts of those not in possession of a legal handgun.


Please quote where he says they should be forced to own a gun.
Are you 2A's Guardian Angel or what? I never said he was forcing them -- he is opining that they SHOULD and as an extension that all women who could find themselves in such circumstances SHOULD, or be killed by crazies.
 
They shouldn't be in the position of having to complain by gun grabbers in the first place.
What? Gun ownership wasn't mentioned, not by Pauley anyway--I read that one all the way through. The OP's link is not about gun ownership. It has nothing to do with it, except the OP's opinion that these poor frightened victims should be armed. The women aren't complaining about anything but lack of response by law enforcement!


The OP didn't ask what the viewpoints were of the women in the story, he's asking members here what they think. Given how many Dem controlled cities hamper gun ownership and the ability to get conceal carry permits, it's a valid point to raise. It's really not difficult to figure that out.
If these women don't WANT that solution, it isn't up to the Death Goon to foist it upon them, or use them as his Victim of the Day to stir fear in the hearts of those not in possession of a legal handgun.


Please quote where he says they should be forced to own a gun.
Are you 2A's Guardian Angel or what? I never said he was forcing them -- he is opining that they SHOULD and as an extension that all women who could find themselves in such circumstances SHOULD, or be killed by crazies.

Wrong again, hun. He's defending their right to self-defense; and by extension their liberty to exercise it (or not).
 
Great. Well, it would be interesting to know if that is what these women have chosen as a solution. We had a horrible murder here--actually I think it was four people by the time he was done--and it started with the ex-boyfriend crawling through the window and taking the handgun from his exgirlfriend and killing her with it.
 
On the show 48 hours last night they covered the topic of stalking victims.....and how the police and the court system cannot help them...even from violent, dangerous and oftentimes murderous stalkers......

Pauley Parrette is on the t.v. show NCIS...and has been stalked for 10 years......she has met an formed a group with 3 other women who are also being stalked.....and none of them can get help from the police or the courts....

--One of the women.....dated a man for a few months and he broke the relationship off.....he was gone for several months...then started emailing her with threats of rape, marriage, and death. She was at her home and he barged in and started screaming at her, then left. She got a restraining order.....the paper......she is a lawyer and law professor. He threw two full cans of paint through her window, breaking the cans open with the force and spraying paint all over her son's toys.

When the police arrived...........they accused her of making it up.......

She told them she was a lawyer, knew the law, and that they were obligated by her restraining order to arrest the guy......they gave her a copy of their report..........and did nothing.

Later, the same guy, who was stalking other women was picked up by the Los Angeles police Threat Management Unit....they handle stalkers......they were shocked at the treatment she recieved from the regular police, they put a case together against this guy, arrested him and he went to trial......

He recieved a felony stalking conviction, and recieved......5 years. He was out in two.

She lives in fear every single day of her life. The police cannot help her...she has a 10 year restraining order on him.......

The other woman in the story...her ex boyfriend continues to stalk her...he stays just outside the 100 yard perimeter of the restraining order.....he was also arrested and recieved a felony conviction for stalking......a 5 year probation sentence...........

So.....the other case was the singer from the Voice....she was shot in the head by her stalker leaving one of her concerts.......

Stalked: Part 2


Each of these women lives in fear every day of their lives...they have had to hide...changing their homes, their habits, living in self made prisons for the fear of nut jobs killing them.....

And the police....tell them over and over till the guys actually harm them, they can't help them.....

This is the question anti-gunners have to answer......should these women be allowed to carry a gun for self defense against these highly dangerous men...who have made specific threats of rape and death?

Keep in mind...the typical anti gun answer...if there were no guns in existence this wouldn't be a problem.....is a crap answer....here in Illinois a woman was murdered by her stalking husband with a 10 dollar Walmart camping axe....another girl on another 48 hour show was stabbed 70 times with a kitchen knife and in the same episode a woman had been doused with gasoline and set on fire....

So anti gunners...please tell us...and these women...that their Right to self defense is antiquated, and unnecessary.....and that the 2nd Amendment doesn't protect guns......since all guns at some point were used by the military, and therefore unusable by civilians......
Absolutely they should have guns...and know how to use them....I always encourage all women to own guns and get trained.
 
On the show 48 hours last night they covered the topic of stalking victims.....and how the police and the court system cannot help them...even from violent, dangerous and oftentimes murderous stalkers......

Pauley Parrette is on the t.v. show NCIS...and has been stalked for 10 years......she has met an formed a group with 3 other women who are also being stalked.....and none of them can get help from the police or the courts....

--One of the women.....dated a man for a few months and he broke the relationship off.....he was gone for several months...then started emailing her with threats of rape, marriage, and death. She was at her home and he barged in and started screaming at her, then left. She got a restraining order.....the paper......she is a lawyer and law professor. He threw two full cans of paint through her window, breaking the cans open with the force and spraying paint all over her son's toys.

When the police arrived...........they accused her of making it up.......

She told them she was a lawyer, knew the law, and that they were obligated by her restraining order to arrest the guy......they gave her a copy of their report..........and did nothing.

Later, the same guy, who was stalking other women was picked up by the Los Angeles police Threat Management Unit....they handle stalkers......they were shocked at the treatment she recieved from the regular police, they put a case together against this guy, arrested him and he went to trial......

He recieved a felony stalking conviction, and recieved......5 years. He was out in two.

She lives in fear every single day of her life. The police cannot help her...she has a 10 year restraining order on him.......

The other woman in the story...her ex boyfriend continues to stalk her...he stays just outside the 100 yard perimeter of the restraining order.....he was also arrested and recieved a felony conviction for stalking......a 5 year probation sentence...........

So.....the other case was the singer from the Voice....she was shot in the head by her stalker leaving one of her concerts.......

Stalked: Part 2


Each of these women lives in fear every day of their lives...they have had to hide...changing their homes, their habits, living in self made prisons for the fear of nut jobs killing them.....

And the police....tell them over and over till the guys actually harm them, they can't help them.....

This is the question anti-gunners have to answer......should these women be allowed to carry a gun for self defense against these highly dangerous men...who have made specific threats of rape and death?

Keep in mind...the typical anti gun answer...if there were no guns in existence this wouldn't be a problem.....is a crap answer....here in Illinois a woman was murdered by her stalking husband with a 10 dollar Walmart camping axe....another girl on another 48 hour show was stabbed 70 times with a kitchen knife and in the same episode a woman had been doused with gasoline and set on fire....

So anti gunners...please tell us...and these women...that their Right to self defense is antiquated, and unnecessary.....and that the 2nd Amendment doesn't protect guns......since all guns at some point were used by the military, and therefore unusable by civilians......
Absolutely they should have guns...and know how to use them....I always encourage all women to own guns and get trained.


Good for you.....
 
On the show 48 hours last night they covered the topic of stalking victims.....and how the police and the court system cannot help them...even from violent, dangerous and oftentimes murderous stalkers......

Pauley Parrette is on the t.v. show NCIS...and has been stalked for 10 years......she has met an formed a group with 3 other women who are also being stalked.....and none of them can get help from the police or the courts....

--One of the women.....dated a man for a few months and he broke the relationship off.....he was gone for several months...then started emailing her with threats of rape, marriage, and death. She was at her home and he barged in and started screaming at her, then left. She got a restraining order.....the paper......she is a lawyer and law professor. He threw two full cans of paint through her window, breaking the cans open with the force and spraying paint all over her son's toys.

When the police arrived...........they accused her of making it up.......

She told them she was a lawyer, knew the law, and that they were obligated by her restraining order to arrest the guy......they gave her a copy of their report..........and did nothing.

Later, the same guy, who was stalking other women was picked up by the Los Angeles police Threat Management Unit....they handle stalkers......they were shocked at the treatment she recieved from the regular police, they put a case together against this guy, arrested him and he went to trial......

He recieved a felony stalking conviction, and recieved......5 years. He was out in two.

She lives in fear every single day of her life. The police cannot help her...she has a 10 year restraining order on him.......

The other woman in the story...her ex boyfriend continues to stalk her...he stays just outside the 100 yard perimeter of the restraining order.....he was also arrested and recieved a felony conviction for stalking......a 5 year probation sentence...........

So.....the other case was the singer from the Voice....she was shot in the head by her stalker leaving one of her concerts.......

Stalked: Part 2


Each of these women lives in fear every day of their lives...they have had to hide...changing their homes, their habits, living in self made prisons for the fear of nut jobs killing them.....

And the police....tell them over and over till the guys actually harm them, they can't help them.....

This is the question anti-gunners have to answer......should these women be allowed to carry a gun for self defense against these highly dangerous men...who have made specific threats of rape and death?

Keep in mind...the typical anti gun answer...if there were no guns in existence this wouldn't be a problem.....is a crap answer....here in Illinois a woman was murdered by her stalking husband with a 10 dollar Walmart camping axe....another girl on another 48 hour show was stabbed 70 times with a kitchen knife and in the same episode a woman had been doused with gasoline and set on fire....

So anti gunners...please tell us...and these women...that their Right to self defense is antiquated, and unnecessary.....and that the 2nd Amendment doesn't protect guns......since all guns at some point were used by the military, and therefore unusable by civilians......
Are these women complaining that they aren't allowed to have a firearm, or are you just deciding for them that they should be armed?


They are pushing for the usual....a registry of stalkers at the federal level...does nothing to keep them safe. Better police training...does nothing to keep them safe.....and longer prison sentences for stalking...which actually works...until the guy gets out of the prison...unless you lock them up for life...they will get out...or they get probation like the one guy did....

One of the other cases involved a guy who is clearly, mentally ill....he stalked one of the women on the show, and was arrested and put in Bellevue for stalking Ivanka Trump....he is out now, wandering around and the former Psychiatrist for the Los Angeles police, Threat Management Unit said the guy is dangerous and needs to be dealt with....

So......none of the solutions they are pushing for, in their P.C. world view will keep them safe if the nut jobs decide to murder them...Pauley is rich, so she probably has Gavin DeBecker, security agent to the stars, protecting her...the other women....live almost like prisoners....afraid to go outside.
 
On the show 48 hours last night they covered the topic of stalking victims.....and how the police and the court system cannot help them...even from violent, dangerous and oftentimes murderous stalkers......

Pauley Parrette is on the t.v. show NCIS...and has been stalked for 10 years......she has met an formed a group with 3 other women who are also being stalked.....and none of them can get help from the police or the courts....

--One of the women.....dated a man for a few months and he broke the relationship off.....he was gone for several months...then started emailing her with threats of rape, marriage, and death. She was at her home and he barged in and started screaming at her, then left. She got a restraining order.....the paper......she is a lawyer and law professor. He threw two full cans of paint through her window, breaking the cans open with the force and spraying paint all over her son's toys.

When the police arrived...........they accused her of making it up.......

She told them she was a lawyer, knew the law, and that they were obligated by her restraining order to arrest the guy......they gave her a copy of their report..........and did nothing.

Later, the same guy, who was stalking other women was picked up by the Los Angeles police Threat Management Unit....they handle stalkers......they were shocked at the treatment she recieved from the regular police, they put a case together against this guy, arrested him and he went to trial......

He recieved a felony stalking conviction, and recieved......5 years. He was out in two.

She lives in fear every single day of her life. The police cannot help her...she has a 10 year restraining order on him.......

The other woman in the story...her ex boyfriend continues to stalk her...he stays just outside the 100 yard perimeter of the restraining order.....he was also arrested and recieved a felony conviction for stalking......a 5 year probation sentence...........

So.....the other case was the singer from the Voice....she was shot in the head by her stalker leaving one of her concerts.......

Stalked: Part 2


Each of these women lives in fear every day of their lives...they have had to hide...changing their homes, their habits, living in self made prisons for the fear of nut jobs killing them.....

And the police....tell them over and over till the guys actually harm them, they can't help them.....

This is the question anti-gunners have to answer......should these women be allowed to carry a gun for self defense against these highly dangerous men...who have made specific threats of rape and death?

Keep in mind...the typical anti gun answer...if there were no guns in existence this wouldn't be a problem.....is a crap answer....here in Illinois a woman was murdered by her stalking husband with a 10 dollar Walmart camping axe....another girl on another 48 hour show was stabbed 70 times with a kitchen knife and in the same episode a woman had been doused with gasoline and set on fire....

So anti gunners...please tell us...and these women...that their Right to self defense is antiquated, and unnecessary.....and that the 2nd Amendment doesn't protect guns......since all guns at some point were used by the military, and therefore unusable by civilians......
Gee, I'm sorry but who the fuck is saying people can not conceal carry with the roper permits & training?

And how would carrying a gun stop that person from being shot in the head?


California sheriffs who get to decide who can carry a gun...a Constitutional Right.....and the 9th Circuit backs that stand up.....

A gun in the hands of these women would give them a chance to survive dipshit.......
 
Living in fear is the NRA's mantra.


No......living without fear, because you can defend yourself from criminals and stalkers is what the NRA believes in....these women are terrified every single day of their lives...they have been to the police over and over again, they got restraining orders through the courts....and every single one of their stalkers is out in public........

So tell me....What are their options if they aren't rich and can hire private security...to carry guns.....
 

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