Paul Ryan would financally benefit from his own legislation

[Dr.Drock]

Of course, Ryan's legislation hasn't been passed and the given parts of it can easily be stricken...Whereas the democrat malefactors I listed profited handsomely from their legislative duplicity without a peep from the same worthless media tools screeching about Ryan.

Again, it's the exact same principle. Whether it happens or not, Ryan is trying to use his position of power in order to make more profits.

It's not a partisan issue, no matter how desperate partisans are to make it into one.

Oh, I get that part.

My point is that the howling over it rings completely hollow, when it comes from those who've looked the other way, or worse have run interference for such blatant corruption as somehow or another being a good thing....Which exactly describes the band of little media weasels linked in the OP.

That's fine, but we shouldn't tell them to be quiet on one because they're quiet on the other, we should be promoting them to be loud about these infractions on both sides.

 

[JimH52]

Sadly this kind of stuff is the norm, the norm for BOTH parties.


Ryan as the OP shows is a great example of a rep doing it, Gore's huge profits from the man made global warming adventure is a great example of a dem doign it.

Wait, Gore has profited BILLIONS from the AGW fraud... and Ryan's profited how much so far by legislation that hasn't even passed yet?

And hopefully will never pass.

 

[Oddball]

Again, it's the exact same principle. Whether it happens or not, Ryan is trying to use his position of power in order to make more profits.

It's not a partisan issue, no matter how desperate partisans are to make it into one.

Oh, I get that part.

My point is that the howling over it rings completely hollow, when it comes from those who've looked the other way, or worse have run interference for such blatant corruption as somehow or another being a good thing....Which exactly describes the band of little media weasels linked in the OP.

That's fine, but we shouldn't tell them to be quiet on one because they're quiet on the other, we should be promoting them to be loud about these infractions on both sides.

Another point here is; what reason would anyone have to believe that what is being said about Ryan's legislation is even true?

The lamestream media wankers have done such damage to their reputations by being such blatant cheerleaders for one side over the other, that nobody with half a brain wants to hear their bleating even if what they're reporting is factual.

To me, this is a lot less about Ryan, Reid, Dodd or anyone else, than it is about overall media credibility.

This is all a twisted sort of political variation of The Boy Who Cried Wolf.

 

[Oddball]

Something else to consider.....

These pieces of legislation are never written up by their sponsors.

They're written and cobbled together by aides, influenced by lobbyists, have little this-n-thats slid in by other political operatives, etcetera.

Does the linked story point this out?...Do they have any evidence that Ryan himself inserted those provisions, for exclusive purpose of profiting handsomely?...Do they have any evidence Ryan even knew about this?

If he knew, the we have something...If he didn't, then you have a whole new series of questions that need to be asked.

 

[kiwiman127]

Oh, I get that part.

My point is that the howling over it rings completely hollow, when it comes from those who've looked the other way, or worse have run interference for such blatant corruption as somehow or another being a good thing....Which exactly describes the band of little media weasels linked in the OP.

That's fine, but we shouldn't tell them to be quiet on one because they're quiet on the other, we should be promoting them to be loud about these infractions on both sides.

Another point here is; what reason would anyone have to believe that what is being said about Ryan's legislation is even true?
The lamestream media wankers have done such damage to their reputations by being such blatant cheerleaders for one side over the other, that nobody with half a brain wants to hear their bleating even if what they're reporting is factual.

To me, this is a lot less about Ryan, Reid, Dodd or anyone else, than it is about overall media credibility.

This is all a twisted sort of political variation of The Boy Who Cried Wolf.

"Another point here is; what reason would anyone have to believe that what is being said about Ryan's legislation is even true?'

If you had read the article, you know A, the info is in Ryan's financial disclosure. B, the watch dog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics and American Petroleum Institute both adressed the legislation in the article.

 

[kiwiman127]

Of course, Ryan's legislation hasn't been passed and the given parts of it can easily be stricken...Whereas the democrat malefactors I listed profited handsomely from their legislative duplicity without a peep from the same worthless media tools screeching about Ryan.

Again, it's the exact same principle. Whether it happens or not, Ryan is trying to use his position of power in order to make more profits.

It's not a partisan issue, no matter how desperate partisans are to make it into one.

Oh, I get that part.

My point is that the howling over it rings completely hollow, when it comes from those who've looked the other way, or worse have run interference for such blatant corruption as somehow or another being a good thing....Which exactly describes the band of little media weasels linked in the OP.

Would you like to point out those "weasels"?
You remind me of the lefties defending Weiner, blind as a bat!

 

[Big Fitz]

Sadly this kind of stuff is the norm, the norm for BOTH parties.


Ryan as the OP shows is a great example of a rep doing it, Gore's huge profits from the man made global warming adventure is a great example of a dem doign it.

Wait, Gore has profited BILLIONS from the AGW fraud... and Ryan's profited how much so far by legislation that hasn't even passed yet?

And hopefully will never pass.

Of course! We wouldn't want to do something fiscally responsible in this nation.

Anyone else get the feeling that this nation needs the financial equivalent of a flea dip?

 

[Big Fitz]

Something else to consider.....

These pieces of legislation are never written up by their sponsors.

They're written and cobbled together by aides, influenced by lobbyists, have little this-n-thats slid in by other political operatives, etcetera.

Does the linked story point this out?...Do they have any evidence that Ryan himself inserted those provisions, for exclusive purpose of profiting handsomely?...Do they have any evidence Ryan even knew about this?

If he knew, the we have something...If he didn't, then you have a whole new series of questions that need to be asked.

This is why there ought to be a law that legislation cannot be written by staff, but must be 100% by the legislator themselves.

Makes for shorter, easier to read bills, that's for fucking sure.

 

[rdean]

Do you know the difference between 'could' and 'would'?

Two completely difference meanings. Therefore, your title is bullshit.

Could we keep things honest or would that be too fucking hard?

It "could" happen and if he gets his proposed legislation to pass, then it "would" happen.

 

[hortysir]

Paul Ryan could financially benefit from the legislation he wrote as part of "The Roadmap for America's Future."
I guess you can't blame the guy as he has the capital means to expand his wealth so he can live the American Dream. Ryan is one of the wealthiest representatives in the House.

Ryan's Shrewd Budget Payday

When House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan unveiled the GOP blueprint for cutting government spending, he asked Americans to make sacrifices on everything from Medicare to education, while preserving lucrative tax subsidies for the booming oil, mining and energy industries.
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The financial disclosure report Ryan filed with Congress last month and made public this week shows he and his wife, Janna, own stakes in four family companies that lease land in Texas and Oklahoma to the very energy companies that benefit from the tax subsidies in Ryan&apos;s budget plan.

Ryan's father-in-law, Daniel Little, who runs the companies, told Newsweek and The Daily Beast that the family companies are currently leasing the land for mining and drilling to energy giants such as Chesapeake Energy, Devon, and XTO Energy, a recently acquired subsidiary of ExxonMobil.

Some of these firms would be eligible for portions of the $45 billion in energy tax breaks and subsidies over 10 years protected in the Wisconsin lawmaker’s proposed budget. “Those [energy developing companies] benefit a lot from these subsidies,” explained Russ Harding, an energy policy analyst with the Mackinac Center for Public Policy, when presented with the situation, without reference to Ryan. “Without those, they’re going to be less profitable.”

<snip>

“Sure, senior citizens should have to pay more for health care, but landholders like [Ryan] who lease property to big oil companies, well, their government subsidies must be protected at all costs,” says Melanie Sloan, the director of the nonpartisan Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. “It smacks of hypocrisy.”

<snip>

Aside from the land-lease income, Ryan could also personally benefit from the package of subsidies and incentives he has fought to protect. According to a report from the Joint Committee on Taxation, Ryan himself would be eligible to recover money from the government for investments the four family companies might make in such things as machines and maintenance if they didn’t pan out on the properties and failed to generate revenue.

Stephen Comstock, a tax analyst with the American Petroleum Institute, says the provision and several others like it would be protected under Ryan’s budget.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/17/paul-ryan-s-shrewd-budget-payday-congressman-could-benefit-from-tax-breaks-he-proposes.html?om_rid=NJowYu&om_mid=_BN$0xzB8by7dGP


Is this act worse than letting the energy companies writing our country's energy policy? Is this ethical? How does this benefit Main Street America who has been asked to sacrifice under Ryan's blueprint?

Feedback?

Class envy much?

 

[rdean]

Look how Cheney benefited from Iraq.

 

[Big Fitz]

Look how Cheney benefited from Iraq.

You mean those Haliburton stocks that he had to divest from before becoming VP? Yeah, that really benefited him. Your hairnet's on too tight again, hairnet.

 

[hortysir]

Look how Cheney benefited from Iraq.

Really?
How?
Proof?
Link?

 

[rdean]

Look how Cheney benefited from Iraq.

Really?
How?
Proof?
Link?

Cheney&#039;s Halliburton stock up 3,281% | The Hindsight Factor

 

[Cuyo]

Everyone would financially benefit from Ryan's legislation. Improving the economy does that.

You forgot to add "AND I've based this assertion on absolutely nothing."

Are you suggesting that everyone wouldnt financially benefit from the economy improving?

I'm suggesting that you can't personally assert that Ryan's plan would improve the economy. It's an unknown. You can assert that you agree with the dogma and you believe it would improve the economy, but you can't state as fact that it will work, any more than I can state as fact that our last rounds of capital injections 'improved the economy.'

And, to a lesser extent, yes - Not everyone necessarily benefits from the economy improving, but that wasn't what I was saying.