Paul Ryan Insists He Didn’t Take Stimulus Money, Then Realizes He Totally Did

I understood it just fine.

I notice you're not willing to take a stab at answering the question. You'd prefer divert attention by questioning my intelligence.

OK then.

Why should anyone answer a question of false premise?

Can you start there. I dont consider you one of the usual hacks. So I am keeping my powder dry.....for the moment............

There's no false premise in the question.

I disagree. Maybe your understanding would improve if I added straw argument.


You had better go back and read the statement I responded to. If necessary I will hold your hand....................This time...........
 
If stimulus money can't create jobs - in fact, many so-called conservatives here have claimed it cost jobs -then why would Mr Ryan accept it?

In order to help his community lose jobs?

You do understand had you read the story or were actually familiar with the facts.

You wouldnt have looked very stupid right there.

But hey this is america where the 1st amendment sometimes applies.........

Translation: "I dont know but you R a poopy head"
 
Ryan is just your garden variety career politician establishment Republican whose only distinction is that he has some cult cred and celebrity with the usual suspects on the far right.
 
so he says the stimlulus will created jobs and asks for the money and then tells you fools he didnt repetedly and then gets caught by the paper trail and has to amitt he asked for stim and this idiot doesnt think it consitutes a lie?

damn you are zombies

Did you miss the part about 'Constituent Services', or did you just decide to ignore it because it doesn't fit your narrative?

so he says the stimlulus will created jobs and asks for the money and then tells you fools he didnt repetedly and then gets caught by the paper trail and has to amitt he asked for stim and this idiot doesnt think it consitutes a lie?

damn you are zombies

Did you miss the part about 'Constituent Services', or did you just decide to ignore it because it doesn't fit your narrative?

How does that mean he did not ask for the money?


how does it mean he did not say in asking for the money that he knew it would create Jobs and be good for his state?

It doesn't mean he didn't ask for it, it means he didn't REMEMBER asking for it. Congressmen get DELUGED with thousands of CS requests, and expecting them to remember them all is just ridiculous. Staffers write the letters and a robo-pen signs them, give me a break.
 
It doesn't mean he didn't ask for it, it means he didn't REMEMBER asking for it.

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so he says the stimlulus will created jobs and asks for the money and then tells you fools he didnt repetedly and then gets caught by the paper trail and has to amitt he asked for stim and this idiot doesnt think it consitutes a lie?

damn you are zombies

Did you miss the part about 'Constituent Services', or did you just decide to ignore it because it doesn't fit your narrative?

Did you miss the part about 'Constituent Services', or did you just decide to ignore it because it doesn't fit your narrative?

How does that mean he did not ask for the money?


how does it mean he did not say in asking for the money that he knew it would create Jobs and be good for his state?

It doesn't mean he didn't ask for it, it means he didn't REMEMBER asking for it. Congressmen get DELUGED with thousands of CS requests, and expecting them to remember them all is just ridiculous. Staffers write the letters and a robo-pen signs them, give me a break.

You aren't REALLY going to go with that, are you? Didn't you all try to impeach a former Deomcorat President for not remembering things having to do with a staffer?
 
It doesn't mean he didn't ask for it, it means he didn't REMEMBER asking for it.

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You honestly expect him to remember EVERY constituent request he's done in the last dozen years? I realize asking for honesty is a bit of a stretch, but REALLY?

Congressmen get thousands of these requests EVERY year, mostly handled by staffers and a Robo-Pen. I think you are really reaching here...
 
It doesn't mean he didn't ask for it, it means he didn't REMEMBER asking for it.

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You honestly expect him to remember EVERY constituent request he's done in the last dozen years? I realize asking for honesty is a bit of a stretch, but REALLY?

Congressmen get thousands of these requests EVERY year, mostly handled by staffers and a Robo-Pen. I think you are really reaching here...

I lol'd again.

This is fucking precious!
 

You honestly expect him to remember EVERY constituent request he's done in the last dozen years? I realize asking for honesty is a bit of a stretch, but REALLY?

Congressmen get thousands of these requests EVERY year, mostly handled by staffers and a Robo-Pen. I think you are really reaching here...

I lol'd again.

This is fucking precious!

Whatever, I think you guys should run with this all the way to November.

Ryan the hypocrite and Romney the tax cheat!

That's a winning strategy, I'm SURE of it!!
 
So? Who gives a shit.

At least he hasn't

Lied about ObamaCare not being a Tax

On the anniversary of the killing of Osama Bin Laden exposed sensitive TTPs–aka Tactics, Techniques and Procedures.

‘You Didn’t Build That’

Delayed Keystone Pipeline

Sends a Weapons Contract to Foreign Corp. with Ties to Iran & Soros

Refuses to take ANY responsibility for his actions - blames Bush

Debt Ceiling fiasco of 2011

He and Attorney General Holder sue the State of Arizona

"Solar-Gate"

Inappropriate remarks about Israel Prime Minister

Disdain for our ally Israel

Sells USA out to the Russians via a hot MIC

Obvious Appointment of Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court to push forward his Health Care Agenda

"Fast and Furious” gun running scandal

Indirect Support of the Occupy Movement

Won't unseal his records but wants 12 years of Romney's tax returns

Seats multiple czars with no accountability

Primarily responsible for High Fuel Prices as of April 2012

Stacked the National Labor Relations Board with Union Puppets

Used the DOJ to Attack Sheriff Joe Arpaio

Refused to prosecute the radical haters the Black Panthers for violations of others voting rights as well as hate crimes and inciting violence

Hires radical racist communist in his administration - Van Jones + 87 known Socialists

General Motors Bail Out & Take Over

Shuts down of the oil industry in the Gulf of Mexico

Obamas EXTREME ARROGANCE toward those who do not fit his world view/profile.

Stimulus bill (AKA Democratic payback)

Inability to call Islamic Extremists and the tenants of Islam which they follow what they are - Often an extreme religion of hate and intolerance

Tax cheats in his administration; Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner

Made race relations worse - (stupidly comment- professor gates)

"Fly over" photo op in New York

Sold out other nations by removing missile defense

Let Pelosi and Reid write bills

Lack of transparency

Lied about details of his healthcare reform bill

Attempted to take over census

Undecided about giving military what they need to win

Association with ACORN

Worldwide apology tour

Bends over to our enemies while giving our allies the shaft

Got the NEA to produce propaganda art for his agenda

Fired inspector general for investigating his friends at americorp

Shut down voucher program in DC for poor school kids

Fired the head of General Motors

Lied about putting bills online for 5 days

Allowed unions large share in businesses taken over by government

Intimidated businessmen (I'm only thing standing between you and the pitch forks)

Allowed his administration to threaten shareholders during bankruptcy of car dealers

Extremely anti small business & anti-family views/policies

Lowered the child tax credit from $1000 to $500

Raised the deficit three times the amount it was in 2008 in one year

Bailed Fannie and Freddie

Won't repay tarp money to taxpayers as promised

Spent more than any president in history
That's a good laundry list for starters. Unfortunately, there is collateral damage with just about every one of those Obama goofs. For example, when he closed oil drilling for Americans in the Gulf, it was a defacto gift to 3 communist countries to start drilling just south of Miami. How can this be? Because Obama doesn't know the value of setting our Naval vessels in the Gulf to prevent crap like that from going down.

You mentioned higher gas prices. The collateral damage from that is the decimation of half America's tourist industries, half of whom were DNC operatives, but now are feeling the pinch of trying to stay in business when a President appoints himself emperor and decides he will be the kingpin who has to be asked for permission to use HIS property, since he is seeing to it he expropriates those of businesses that fall to the type of taxation that first takes away viable income, then after the forseeable business failure, it then takes away property holdings to be redistributed to the emperor's favorite people, all Democrats.

Obama is using power to decimate everybody except Democrats. Hard-core Democrats constitute less than 20% of the nation's voters.

I don't think what Obama did is Constitutionally acceptable. It takes away people's pursuit of happiness, which prosperity brings.

Thanks for a good post, Warrior. I think you're doing a better job of looking out for America than all Obama's men and women combined.
 
" In a 2010 interview and again on Thursday, Ryan indignantly declared that he'd never do such a thing. Then he admitted several hours later that upon further investigation, he definitely did ask for stimulus funds."

Ryan Denies Taking Stimulus, Then Admits He Did -- Daily Intel

Shocking? Not at all. Since lack of consistency and hypocrisy are staples of the modern day GOP.
 
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In other words - he lied.

Of course. He wants to position himself as the true fiscal hawk. Even though his record tells us he's anything but that. That doesn't matter to the right wing fringe though. Like I said, hypocrisy and lack of consistency are staples of their value system now.
 
" In a 2010 interview and again on Thursday, Ryan indignantly declared that he'd never do such a thing. Then he admitted several hours later that upon further investigation, he definitely did ask for stimulus funds."

Ryan Denies Taking Stimulus, Then Admits He Did -- Daily Intel

Shocking? Not at all. Since lack of consistency and hypocrisy are staples of the modern day GOP.

Ryan didn't just TAKE it, he ASKED for it...in writing!
 

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