Paul Ryan and Todd Akin Partnered On Radical ‘Personhood’ Bill

[Chris]

Paul Ryan wants to outlaw abortion in the case of rape or incest.

Who arrests the rape victim, Paul?

 

[Article 15]

Staph pitched quite the fit in this thread. It looks like this has legs.

 

[Stephanie]

Staph pitched quite the fit in this thread. It looks like this has legs.

yeah ok

 

[plant]

Ryan will wear this around he neck for sure , as for the 251 that voted for this shit need to be exposed .

 

[JoeB131]

I doubt very much if the OP is concerned about Obama's association with the hate whitey church

The one that does great work in that community? That sets up soup kitchens and food pantries and AIDS outreach and drug rehab programs?

Nope, nope, we are just supposed to be upset about one or two sermons given by their whacky pastor...

But ignore all teh whacky pastors on the right and don't you dare ask Mitt Romney anything about Mormonism even though he was an LDS Bishop.

 

[JoeB131]

“What it says is that a single cell can achieve all the protections the Constitution of the United States bestows on persons,” Slaughter said of the bill. “Scientifically the law is crazy.”

And legally, it’s un-Constitutional.

The contempt most conservatives have for our civil liberties is remarkable, not surprising, but remarkable nonetheless.

Does that mean we'll start having to treat tampons as crime scenes?

 

[Seawytch]

Ironically,

Bob McDonnell, the governor of Virginia, and much more politically attractive VP candidate than Ryan, may have disqualified himself in the eyes of the Romney camp because of that infamous vaginal ultrasound episode.

Now they end up with Ryan, who is just as extreme on abortion as McDonnell.

That's what happens when you let the Fox Opinion Network goad you into selecting a candidate you've not properly vetted.

 

[bodecea]

Why are the Republicans throwing Akin overboard with tons of righteous outrage while they simultaneously cheer Ryan on.

The two hold exactly the same positions on abortion.

you people are liars

And you believe one cell is a person.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Please tell us why you want to make it murder to abort an ectopic pregnancy.

Or do you not support the Ryan-Akin bill?

shouldn't you be back over in your thread bitching about the rich.

Please tell us why you want to make it murder to abort an ectopic pregnancy.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

How sick a society or people when they call it RADICAL when to recognize a fetus/child as a person?

You didn't read it, I see....it says it is a person at FERTILIZATION....that is ONE CELL....a fetus is quite a bit farther down the road.

Which leads to all sorts of fucked up legal quandaries.

Like what happens if you cut a person into two separate pieces - do you have two persons? Nope, you've got two halves of one person - so uUnder personhood amendments, identical twins would be - legally - one person. On the other hand - chimeric individuals would legally be two persons!


There's all sorts of fucked up shit that happens when the law states a person is formed when a sperm fertilizes an egg. The idiots that write these "person-hood" amendments don't actually want identical twins to be defined as a single person - and I doubt they want it to be murder to abort an ectopic pregnancy - they are just horrible at writing laws.

 

[Dot Com]

Paul Ryan and Todd Akin Partnered On Radical ‘Personhood’ Bill

THIS is the reason its a big deal. Repub men, especially Akin & Ryan, think that they know better then women about how to legislate their bodies (Congress- 90%+/- men)

 

[Plasmaball]

Now we're going to try the guilt by association route. Odd how this didn't bother you until after the news broke about his comments.

Then the right shall drop the ayers,wright guilt by association correct?


Oh somehow I doubt they will.

 

[Plasmaball]

I doubt very much if the OP is concerned about Obama's association with the hate whitey church

There we go that didn't take long.

 

[Plasmaball]

An interesting question: How bad is the Ryan-Akin anti-abortion bill?

The national battle over Todd Akin’s comments about “legitimate rape” has shed light on a “personhood” bill, co-sponsored by Akin and Paul Ryan, called the Sanctity of Life Act. Much of the chatter today has focused on whether Ryan opposes abortion in cases of rape. The Romney campaign confirmed today that Ryan does personally oppose it, while clarifying that a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose it.

But what about the other legal implications of the bill Ryan and Akin co-sponsored? In an interview just now, Dem Rep. Louise Slaughter, one of the leading pro-choice voices in Congress, raised two startling possibilities.

“One of the questions around this legislation is, Could a rapist who impregnated a victim sue that victim if she decided not to carry that baby and to have an abortion?” Slaughter said. “Another question: Could in vitro fertilization be outlawed?”

It’s unclear how this legislation would work. The bill affirms that from the moment of fertilization onward, “every human being shall have all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood.” It then says that Congress and the states have the “authority” to protect all human beings — again, defined as human life from fertilization onward — residing in their juristictions.

Slaughter’s suggestion is that this affirms the authority of Congress or the states to pass laws outlawing IVF, since that procedure requires the destruction of embryos, or that it could give legal weight to a rapist’s insistence that his victim not abort her baby — though again, it’s unclear how this would work.

“What it says is that a single cell can achieve all the protections the Constitution of the United States bestows on persons,” Slaughter said of the bill. “Scientifically the law is crazy.”

the compost BLOG?

You complaining about a source? You who makes threads from opinion pieces you read on the web.you complaining about a blog?

Fucking hypocrite.

Seriously eat drano with your breakfast