Patriot Act

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    the term `domestic terrorism' means activities that--
    `(B) appear to be intended--
    `(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;


    How can anyone who claims to love America support this. This is a huge step towards a police state. We as the public can no longer speak our minds if it disturbs the Governments plans. If there is a leader of a social movement that they feel is endangering their power they can legally kill him. Do you feel safer? Our liberties have been fucked by the Government taking advantage of our need for a sense of security. And it is only the beginning.

    I know this is super old news but whoever supports this is part of the problem. And don't say I do too because John Kerry also supports it, John kerry and Bush are playing their fucking Skull and Bones roles in this election. The new world order is coming without a fight from the public because of this left-right bullshit of everyone thinking their side is right when really they are both part of a currupt spectrum which is addicted to power and money.
     
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    I bet Ralph Nader doesn't support it. I think a major problem in US politics is the general consensus that it must be a 2 party system... imagine how 3 or 5 would do. Real good old capitalistic competition ;)
     
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    This post may be acceptable on Yahoo or Slate. On this board it is advisable to support your assertion with factual specifics especially if you start a thread. Otherwise people rightfully assume that you're just another escapee from the asylum.

    So if you want anyone to take you seriously, why don't you go back and research the Patriot Act, then provide the excerpts which support your position. Then provide documented examples of incidents where the rights of a citizen have been violated and what provision of the Patriot Act would give the government the right to kill the leader of a social movement. Also, since you mentioned the Skull and Bones, why not provide some documentation of any specific actions which that group has taken that jepoardize anyone's freedoms.

    If that's too much trouble, then perhaps one of the following applies:

    :lame2: :bs1: :trolls:
     
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    I second Merlin's instructions. I think we might be able to have a decent discussion about this one of the days. ive actually tried to start discussions on the patriot act. Problem is those against it dont bother to provide anything to support their assertions. Its kinda hard to discuss how the patriot act hurts our rights when the side claiming it does cant point to any part of the legislation that actually does.
     
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    I third those instructions....partly cuz I'm a post-whore...but mostly because I agree. :)
     
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    i would love to see you post (as several on this board can also) an intelligent, thought out summary of the patriot act. at the end, throw in what YOU think works, what YOU think doesn't work. then others can do the same. if we get a troll or an ABB guy (except naked and a couple others) we can just ignore them.

    i would find it educational and useful, others might also.

    we should not let trolls ruin the richness of our debate and exchange.
     
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    There would be enough Mega Moderators in the thread to keep the trolls out, imo. :)

    The thread could be a good resource for when we excape the santuary of reason and sanity which IS USMB, and try talking about issues on other forums.

    :)
     
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    Let's go! :baby4: i'm ready to shut up and learn something about all this.
     
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    I quoted the Patriot Act in my first post,

    the term `domestic terrorism' means activities that--
    `(B) appear to be intended--
    `(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

    Well, that gives the Government authority to kill the leader of a social movement, since we are allowed to kill terrorists. Who ISN'T a terrorist under this definition!? Dr. Phil is a fucking terrorist. Appear? Oh so now they can kill people who they 'thought' were terrorists and take no responsibility. But you guys are right, I mean, geez the governemnt would never misuse its power against the public, why would we ever think that?

    P.S. - Merlin what do you think Leaders of social movements do? Do I need to provide you with documented examples of Martin Luther King's actions to show you that leaders of social movements coerce populations? Can you not see what's right in front of you?
     
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    quote that section of the Act IN CONTEXT...
     

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