Pat Robertson Bringing God Into Politics

How dare he follow the tradition of Washington, Adams, Franklin, Jefferson, and all those other guys and recognize God involves himself in the affairs of man!

I don't see why any of us should ignore the hand of Providence throughout our nations history.
 
Trump wants to put God back in America. Nothing wrong with that.
It's refreshing after 8 years of promoting Islam and atheism.

who's done that? :cuckoo:

you can tell the same lies over and over... but that doesn't make them any less lies. thanks goebbels.
Obama, with his muslim outreach policies.
Public education pushing evolution (which is not verifiable science), while banning any discussion of creation.
Don't forget obama refusing federal funding for schools that wouldn't let boys into girls locker rooms.
 
Trump wants to put God back in America. Nothing wrong with that.

"God" has been in America since Bush 43 came into office, in case you haven't noticed. The evangelicals are the ones backing the stupid bathroom bills, Sharia Law scares, closing down Planned Parenthood and trying to reverse Roe v. Wade, and repeal the ACA laws.

If by Bush 43 you really mean Washington 1, then you'd be correct.
 
Trump wants to put God back in America. Nothing wrong with that.

"God" has been in America since Bush 43 came into office, in case you haven't noticed. The evangelicals are the ones backing the stupid bathroom bills, Sharia Law scares, closing down Planned Parenthood and trying to reverse Roe v. Wade, and repeal the ACA laws.
God has been in the USA since its founding . Get it right .

And the founders intentionally wrote into the Constitution that church and state need to be separate. I can't believe I have to even write this out for you fucking simpletons. Get a high school degree.
There is nothing in the constitution about,the,separation of church and state.

Which of your cats told told you that?
I guess for you, that would be number 32.
 
Trump wants to put God back in America. Nothing wrong with that.

"God" has been in America since Bush 43 came into office, in case you haven't noticed. The evangelicals are the ones backing the stupid bathroom bills, Sharia Law scares, closing down Planned Parenthood and trying to reverse Roe v. Wade, and repeal the ACA laws.
God has been in the USA since its founding . Get it right .

And the founders intentionally wrote into the Constitution that church and state need to be separate. I can't believe I have to even write this out for you fucking simpletons. Get a high school degree.
There is nothing in the constitution about,the,separation of church and state.

Which of your cats told told you that?
Do you think there is something in the Constitution about the separation of church and state?
 
It is a disgusting example, and goes against many of the teachings Jesus Christ. He basically equates God with Trump (watch the video):
Pat Robertson Says People Who Oppose Trump Are Revolting Against God

Looks like some people want to turn the USA into a Christian version of ISIS. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it's a scary thought.

hate to brake the news to you, but God being brought into politics has been around since the beginning of the country. The abolishing of slavery had religious roots as did civil rights and anti war movements. Along with pro life movements and others. This is not new.

Before the beginning really. It was our forefathers fleeing religious persecution that settled this country
 
Donald Trump is the Anointed One. He only owned all those casinos so he could get close to God by standing on a big pile of money.


And these are his nuns:

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When you tie religion to the state, you are also tying the state to your religion. And the next thing you know, the government is telling you how to run your business if you want the government money to keep coming into your faith-based business. Taxpayer money corrupts the church and its leadership.

But the problems are far deeper than that, and were far better stated 180 years ago. One of the reasons the religious founders of our Northern colonies came to this continent was to escape the corruption of the Church-as-State in Europe. Our country was founded upon the absolute conviction we must not allow that to happen here. And a visitor from France observed the striking difference between our nation and Europe.

On my arrival in the United States the religious aspect of the country was the first thing that struck my attention; and the longer I stayed there, the more I perceived the great political consequences resulting from this new state of things. In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom marching in opposite directions. But in America I found they were intimately united and that they reigned in common over the same country. My desire to discover the causes of this phenomenon increased from day to day. In order to satisfy it I questioned the members of all the different sects; I sought especially the society of the clergy, who are the depositaries of the different creeds and are especially interested in their duration. As a member of the Roman Catholic Church, I was more particularly brought into contact with several of its priests, with whom I became intimately acquainted. To each of these men I expressed my astonishment and explained my doubts. I found that they differed upon matters of detail alone, and that they all attributed the peaceful dominion of religion in their country mainly to the separation of church and state. I do not hesitate to affirm that during my stay in America I did not meet a single individual, of the clergy or the laity, who was not of the same opinion on this point.


My, how we have strayed from this conviction.


Pay particular attention to this part below and see how what Alexis de Tocqueville said about Europe two centuries ago applies to the state of politics in America today.

The unbelievers of Europe attack the Christians as their political opponents rather than as their religious adversaries; they hate the Christian religion as the opinion of a party much more than as an error of belief; and they reject the clergy less because they are the representatives of the Deity than because they are the allies of government.

In Europe, Christianity has been intimately united to the powers of the earth. Those powers are now in decay, and it is, as it were, buried under their ruins. The living body of religion has been bound down to the dead corpse of superannuated polity; cut but the bonds that restrain it, and it will rise once more. I do not know what could restore the Christian church of Europe to the energy of its earlier days; that power belongs to God alone; but it may be for human policy to leave to faith the full exercise of the strength which it still retains.

Tocqueville: Book I Chapter 17
 
When you tie religion to the state, you are also tying the state to your religion. And the next thing you know, the government is telling you how to run your business if you want the government money to keep coming into your faith-based business. Taxpayer money corrupts the church and its leadership.....
Agreed. Same goes for the "thought-police" in the DNC. It's all authoritarianism: people using government to tell everyone what to do instead of people telling government what it may do.

Too many people on both sides of the political divide think the Constitution grants us our rights instead of understanding that the Constitution simply empowers government to perform some actions on the part of "We, the People".
 
Who is imposing anything on anyone?
Show me where the government has done that.
It hasn't because it's been stopped by SCOTUS and legislators. Isn't that the discussion here? Do you believe government should dictate religion? Yes or no, please.

Scroll up and look at all the anti-American authoritarians proposing that their religious views be the law of the land. Didn't Sarah Palin say the same thing?
 
It is a disgusting example, and goes against many of the teachings Jesus Christ. He basically equates God with Trump (watch the video):
Pat Robertson Says People Who Oppose Trump Are Revolting Against God

Looks like some people want to turn the USA into a Christian version of ISIS. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it's a scary thought.


Poor pathetic snowflake, he didn't equate Trump with God, that's just what you wanted to hear. Try listening to the scripture he quoted and then attempt to put your little pea brain in gear.


He said that if you oppose Trump, you oppose God. How much more specific do you need?
 
When you tie religion to the state, you are also tying the state to your religion. And the next thing you know, the government is telling you how to run your business if you want the government money to keep coming into your faith-based business. Taxpayer money corrupts the church and its leadership.

But the problems are far deeper than that, and were far better stated 180 years ago. One of the reasons the religious founders of our Northern colonies came to this continent was to escape the corruption of the Church-as-State in Europe. Our country was founded upon the absolute conviction we must not allow that to happen here. And a visitor from France observed the striking difference between our nation and Europe.

On my arrival in the United States the religious aspect of the country was the first thing that struck my attention; and the longer I stayed there, the more I perceived the great political consequences resulting from this new state of things. In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom marching in opposite directions. But in America I found they were intimately united and that they reigned in common over the same country. My desire to discover the causes of this phenomenon increased from day to day. In order to satisfy it I questioned the members of all the different sects; I sought especially the society of the clergy, who are the depositaries of the different creeds and are especially interested in their duration. As a member of the Roman Catholic Church, I was more particularly brought into contact with several of its priests, with whom I became intimately acquainted. To each of these men I expressed my astonishment and explained my doubts. I found that they differed upon matters of detail alone, and that they all attributed the peaceful dominion of religion in their country mainly to the separation of church and state. I do not hesitate to affirm that during my stay in America I did not meet a single individual, of the clergy or the laity, who was not of the same opinion on this point.


My, how we have strayed from this conviction.


Pay particular attention to this part below and see how what Alexis de Tocqueville said about Europe two centuries ago applies to the state of politics in America today.

The unbelievers of Europe attack the Christians as their political opponents rather than as their religious adversaries; they hate the Christian religion as the opinion of a party much more than as an error of belief; and they reject the clergy less because they are the representatives of the Deity than because they are the allies of government.

In Europe, Christianity has been intimately united to the powers of the earth. Those powers are now in decay, and it is, as it were, buried under their ruins. The living body of religion has been bound down to the dead corpse of superannuated polity; cut but the bonds that restrain it, and it will rise once more. I do not know what could restore the Christian church of Europe to the energy of its earlier days; that power belongs to God alone; but it may be for human policy to leave to faith the full exercise of the strength which it still retains.

Tocqueville: Book I Chapter 17


And today, the Unbelievers have turned it around. THey now see anyone who disagrees with them as heretics of their secular dogma.


Rather they be religious conservatives like Pat Roberson, or secular conservatives like Milo, or even populists nationalists like Donald Trump.


All are dealt with the same way, branded as heretics and demonized and attacked with a religious fervor that the Crusaders would have found overly strident.
 
It is a disgusting example, and goes against many of the teachings Jesus Christ. He basically equates God with Trump (watch the video):
Pat Robertson Says People Who Oppose Trump Are Revolting Against God

Looks like some people want to turn the USA into a Christian version of ISIS. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it's a scary thought.


Poor pathetic snowflake, he didn't equate Trump with God, that's just what you wanted to hear. Try listening to the scripture he quoted and then attempt to put your little pea brain in gear.


He said that if you oppose Trump, you oppose God. How much more specific do you need?


And how did that track with the scripture he quoted? It's all about context child.
 
Trump wants to put God back in America. Nothing wrong with that.
You must be Catholic. Protestants believe we don't need middlemen to have a relationship with God.
No, we need a God focussed. Nation.
While I agree that people are better off with a connection to God, do you really want government to enforce that idea?
Not enforce, but a mention would be great.
 
It is a disgusting example, and goes against many of the teachings Jesus Christ. He basically equates God with Trump (watch the video):
Pat Robertson Says People Who Oppose Trump Are Revolting Against God

Looks like some people want to turn the USA into a Christian version of ISIS. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it's a scary thought.


Poor pathetic snowflake, he didn't equate Trump with God, that's just what you wanted to hear. Try listening to the scripture he quoted and then attempt to put your little pea brain in gear.


He said that if you oppose Trump, you oppose God. How much more specific do you need?


And how did that track with the scripture he quoted? It's all about context child.

It was the words out of his mouth.
 
It is a disgusting example, and goes against many of the teachings Jesus Christ. He basically equates God with Trump (watch the video):
Pat Robertson Says People Who Oppose Trump Are Revolting Against God

Looks like some people want to turn the USA into a Christian version of ISIS. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it's a scary thought.


Poor pathetic snowflake, he didn't equate Trump with God, that's just what you wanted to hear. Try listening to the scripture he quoted and then attempt to put your little pea brain in gear.


He said that if you oppose Trump, you oppose God. How much more specific do you need?


And how did that track with the scripture he quoted? It's all about context child.

It was the words out of his mouth.


The mouth of a man who believes God choses our leaders, being a regressive, I guess you don't think he's entitled to his beliefs.
 

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