Pass- over the first son- fallen false messiah

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    Pesach Sameach
    (Happy Passover)

    Passover
    Come on people, how can you miss the obvious?
    1)The lamb on passover is representing the Egyptian idol god which was a lamb, they slayed it to mock & humiliate the Egyptian idol worship in hopes of getting kicked out of Egypt=the lamb is bad, not a good thing.
    You are saying we are saved by removing the idol god Jesus who was the sin itself, not the salvation from sin.
    Thus removing the Morning Star- Lucifer the first born, we are saved from his sin and our sins, that worship in Lucifer =Jesus brings.

    2)Thus the secret embedded in Passover tradition is for us to focus on =passing over the first born, the first born Of the Egyptians must die. =Lucifer the first claimed messiah (learned his forbidden maggi and underworld teachings in Egypt) we are told to pass this imposter by as he is an idol god.

    3)The seder set with traditional egg and bitter is also a focus, as the Morning Star (lucifer) was born out of a fallen ISHTAR's (easter) "EGG". And the fallen star would make mankind "bitter" and poisonous like wormwood.

    IN Conclusion: if Christians want to hijack Passover and claim Jesus in it, then they are admitting Jesus is Lucifer and changes holidays (as they claimed satan would).
     
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    Oh I get it. When we post about the Jewish religion and the old testament you go all ape#### that we don't know the true meaning.
    But you as a non believer you supposedly know all about Jesus Christ.
    It's unfortunate that you'll die without a Savoir. All you're doing is reading a bunch of nonsense that attacks Christianity.
     
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    Sir: this is what the OLD TESTAMENT says concerning Passover.
    Exodus 12 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
    12 Adonai spoke to Moshe and Aharon in the land of Egypt; he said, 2 “You are to begin your calendar with this month; it will be the first month of the year for you. 3 Speak to all the assembly of Isra’el and say, ‘On the tenth day of this month, each man is to take a lamb or kid for his family, one per household — 4 except that if the household is too small for a whole lamb or kid, then he and his next-door neighbor should share one, dividing it in proportion to the number of people eating it. 5 Your animal must be without defect, a male in its first year, and you may choose it from either the sheep or the goats.

    6 “‘You are to keep it until the fourteenth day of the month, and then the entire assembly of the community of Isra’el will slaughter it at dusk. 7 They are to take some of the blood and smear it on the two sides and top of the door-frame at the entrance of the house in which they eat it. 8 That night, they are to eat the meat, roasted in the fire; they are to eat it with matzah and maror. 9 Don’t eat it raw or boiled, but roasted in the fire, with its head, the lower parts of its legs and its inner organs. 10 Let nothing of it remain till morning; if any of it does remain, burn it up completely.

    11 “‘Here is how you are to eat it: with your belt fastened, your shoes on your feet and your staff in your hand; and you are to eat it hurriedly. It is Adonai’s Pesach [Passover]. 12 For that night, I will pass through the land of Egypt and kill all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both men and animals; and I will execute judgment against all the gods of Egypt; I am Adonai. 13 The blood will serve you as a sign marking the houses where you are; when I see the blood, I will pass over you — when I strike the land of Egypt, the death blow will not strike you.

    14 “‘This will be a day for you to remember and celebrate as a festival to Adonai; from generation to generation you are to celebrate it by a perpetual regulation.

    15 “‘For seven days you are to eat matzah — on the first day remove the leaven from your houses. For whoever eats hametz [leavened bread] from the first to the seventh day is to be cut off from Isra’el. 16 On the first and seventh days, you are to have an assembly set aside for God. On these days no work is to be done, except what each must do to prepare his food; you may do only that. 17 You are to observe the festival of matzah, for on this very day I brought your divisions out of the land of Egypt. Therefore, you are to observe this day from generation to generation by a perpetual regulation. 18 From the evening of the fourteenth day of the first month until the evening of the twenty-first day, you are to eat matzah. 19 During those seven days, no leaven is to be found in your houses. Whoever eats food with hametz in it is to be cut off from the community of Isra’el — it doesn’t matter whether he is a foreigner or a citizen of the land. 20 Eat nothing with hametz in it. Wherever you live, eat matzah.’”

    (v) 21 Then Moshe called for all the leaders of Isra’el and said, “Select and take lambs for your families, and slaughter the Pesach lamb. 22 Take a bunch of hyssop leaves and dip it in the blood which is in the basin, and smear it on the two sides and top of the door-frame. Then, none of you is to go out the door of his house until morning. 23 For Adonai will pass through to kill the Egyptians; but when he sees the blood on the top and on the two sides, Adonai will pass over the door and will not allow the Slaughterer to enter your houses and kill you. 24 You are to observe this as a law, you and your descendants forever.

    25 “When you come to the land which Adonai will give you, as he has promised, you are to observe this ceremony. 26 When your children ask you, ‘What do you mean by this ceremony?’ 27 say, ‘It is the sacrifice of Adonai’s Pesach [Passover], because [Adonai] passed over the houses of the people of Isra’el in Egypt, when he killed the Egyptians but spared our houses.’” The people of Isra’el bowed their heads and worshipped. 28 Then the people of Isra’el went and did as Adonai had ordered Moshe and Aharon — that is what they did.

    (vi) 29 At midnight Adonai killed all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh sitting on his throne to the firstborn of the prisoner in the dungeon, and all the firstborn of livestock. 30 Pharaoh got up in the night, he, all his servants and all the Egyptians; and there was horrendous wailing in Egypt; for there wasn’t a single house without someone dead in it. 31 He summoned Moshe and Aharon by night and said, “Up and leave my people, both you and the people of Isra’el; and go, serve Adonai as you said. 32 Take both your flocks and your herds, as you said; and get out of here! But bless me, too.” 33 The Egyptians pressed to send the people out of the land quickly, because they said, “Otherwise we’ll all be dead!”

    34 The people took their dough before it had become leavened and wrapped their kneading bowls in their clothes on their shoulders. 35 The people of Isra’el had done what Moshe had said — they had asked the Egyptians to give them silver and gold jewelry and clothing; 36 and Adonai had made the Egyptians so favorably disposed toward the people that they had let them have whatever they requested. Thus they plundered the Egyptians.

    37 The people of Isra’el traveled from Ra‘amses to Sukkot, some six hundred thousand men on foot, not counting children. 38 A mixed crowd also went up with them, as well as livestock in large numbers, both flocks and herds. 39 They baked matzah loaves from the dough they had brought out of Egypt, since it was unleavened; because they had been driven out of Egypt without time to prepare supplies for themselves.

    40 The time the people of Isra’el lived in Egypt was 430 years. 41 At the end of 430 years to the day, all the divisions of Adonai left the land of Egypt. 42 This was a night when Adonai kept vigil to bring them out of the land of Egypt, and this same night continues to be a night when Adonai keeps vigil for all the people of Isra’el through all their generations.

    43 Adonai said to Moshe and Aharon, “This is the regulation for the Pesach lamb: no foreigner is to eat it. 44 But if anyone has a slave he bought for money, when you have circumcised him, he may eat it. 45 Neither a traveler nor a hired servant may eat it. 46 It is to be eaten in one house. You are not to take any of the meat outside the house, and you are not to break any of its bones. 47 The whole community of Isra’el is to keep it. 48 If a foreigner staying with you wants to observe Adonai’s Pesach, all his males must be circumcised. Then he may take part and observe it; he will be like a citizen of the land. But no uncircumcised person is to eat it. 49 The same teaching is to apply equally to the citizen and to the foreigner living among you.”

    50 All the people of Isra’el did just as Adonai had ordered Moshe and Aharon. 51 On that very day, Adonai brought the people of Isra’el out of the land of Egypt by their divisions.
     
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    Ummm remember, it's you guys including your clergy pastors and preachers who do not know the historical and mythical and biblical plagiarism going into that image you deem Jesus.
    Fact: not one top church or evangelical figure as yet been able to discuss or know the historical figures used in the "about Jesus" you refer to.
    You yourself have failed the simple questionnaire and instead replied in ad hominem smokescreens- making excuses for not knowing facts in history.
     
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    And Jesus is called the gatekeeper of death in revelation, who's kingdom is in death.
    So here you say they are to raise
    the HaShevet (staff) in protection from death (Jesus is the messenger of death).

    Numbers /Korach 17:25
    "Vayomer Adonay el-Moshe HASHEV"
    whereby 'HaShev'='Put/return' Aarons staff (HaShevet) before the ark.

    Are you or have you placed back the Kohanim in the Mikdash (temple in the name) housing the ark in the Holy city carrying "the Name"??
     
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    Bickering about the minutiae of bronze-age mythology, when there is so much meaningful work to be done, reflects poorly on your reputation.
     
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    Understanding & Learning from the past and recognizing emulations prevents repetitive mistakes through history and those complacent behaviors that prevents repairing from said mistakes. HOW IS ONE TO KNOW what meaningful work is WITHOUT TEACHINGS on purpose of life, righteousness, and inspiring good deeds? And how is it done behind the scenes since you know it all, are claiming to know who is doing what, where, and when? Are you claiming to be all knowing to know people's works?
     
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    first of all he never said that.
    and second of all that ain't him.
     
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    And it didn't take you long to prove my point about your not knowing your own Jesus character's created image nor your own texts.

    Rev 9:1 the fallen star was given
    the key to the shaft of the Abyss. remember
    Jesus is the one admitting to having this
    Key to the abyss in Revelation 1:18

    So that proves you wrong and proves my post.
    Now let's further prove him being created as the messenger of death.
    Apocryphon of James- "become seekers for death, like the dead who seek for life; for that which they seek is revealed to them. And what is there to trouble them? As for you, when you examine death it will teach you election.
    Verily I say unto you, none of those who fear death will be saved; for the kingdom of death belongs to those who put themselves
    to death!"
    HENCE HE FELL TO THE PIT-ACTS 2:27 &
    1 Peter 3:19 but told them to lie and say he ascended to heaven to his father.-evidence of the great lie-John 20:1-17 He tells Mary to lie for him. BUSTED!
     

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