Parents of Special Needs Children

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    Or anyone else for that matter. What do you think about these comments from the Rat Man? {Korimyr the Rat} I may be too close to the situation to comment to him right now without blowing a gasket. Thought I would get some parent's (or anyone else that wants to chime in) comments.


    {this is from the adoption thread btw}

    This is me replying to Rat Boy about his comments about "defective children"

     
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    i have family members with cp...one can walk with braces one cannot...they are twin boys. the mother sucked up as much funds as she could...allowing all kinds of bullshit experimental surgery etc....she was the typical welfare queen....as soon as the boys turned 18..one went to a group home...one went to the grandmother..seems they were profitable at 18....

    i have another friend..she is paid by the state to take care of her over 18 child...she refuses to warehouse him....she is perhaps 100 lbs...he is well over 200...it is only a matter of time before he harms her...he will not mean too but he will....people who cannot communicate their needs get very frustrated and express things they only way they have physcially...
     
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    I use to teach a fifth grade class for special kids. They were the most awesome kids I knew back then. It was a class in high school on Social Studies. Taught them for a full semester.

    Then my first real job I had a retarded co-worker, they had him working only one position, the easiest one of course. Well, after a week I had trained him on half the kitchen positions. He was one of the hardest and most reliable employees we ever had.

    Anyone who considers them worth less than the rest of us needs to be shipped off to prison.
     
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    the questions seems to be about mainstreaming...i dont agree with mainstreaming....autistic child here....in the 5th grade...beat his teacher up in front of the class...his mother has insisted he be placed in a "normal" class...he became frustrated and did the only thing he knew to do...hit...

    the teacher was beaten badly before the wee ones who were in total shock thought to get help
     
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    o bullshit kitten you can say that..but if there is the end of the world and only so much room on the vehicle to escape...you gonna take people who can rebuild or the handicapped....

    yall can be all feel good about this but the rat boy has a point
     
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    I've got so many smart-assed responses for this thread, but I think I'll keep them to myself for right now.
     
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    I think it depends on the level of impairment. On the other hand, some of these programs are designed to get the child out of the home for several hours, with supervised care. I can think of a number of reasons why this would be necessary, where it is beneficial to the adult/s, hence the family as a whole.
     
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    Laborers are important, and how many "normal" people do you know are willing to do labor? Hell, we need illegal immigrants for most of those jobs, even now when the high paying jobs are getting laid off. You can train even the most mentally retarded person to do almost any redundant task and they don't give you lip about it or whine for undeserved pay raises. The employee I trained was my co-pilot in the kitchen, with him I needed no other employees. It's why he and I kept getting pay raises. He had the mental ability of a five year old, a fucking five year old, and could handle the positions I trained him on better than any "normal" person was ever able to do. He always showed up on time, often early, and never complained. The only employees that I have had which could come close to his level of performance were Mexican immigrants (legal but still new to the country).

    As for your "end of the world" scenario, if we did have the technology to escape such an event then it wouldn't matter, now would it?
     
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    I don't know how to respond without sounding rude. It seems to me that Rat Boy was doing his best to be respectful. I can personally relate to this as I just became a father about 8 months ago along with my best friend. My wife's pregnancy went rather smoothly, but his wife's did not. They were faced with a lot of pressure to abort. Down Syndrome is at something like an 85-90% abortion rate now, and other diseases aren't far behind. I'm not in favor of outright eugenics, but I really don't see anything wrong with parents making this choice. There's nothing noble about sacrificing your life (and your family) to support a child that has little chance of leading a healthy, productive life.
     
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    Thanks for your opinions/comments to those have responded so far. Interesting.

    I would love to hear some comments from parents of special needs children. Do they agree with Rat Boy that their children are "defective?"
     

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