Palin thinks the VP runs the Senate

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Apparently she'll take a page out of the Cheney playbook and try to usurp even more power for herself if McCain is elected.

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Apparently she'll take a page out of the Cheney playbook and try to usurp even more power for herself if McCain is elected.

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Actually, she is correct on this one. Presiding over the Senate is a Constitutional duty. Most VP's simply don't exercise it and it has become common practice for freshman Senators to preside over the Senate in order to learn Senate procedure. Technically, Sarah is correct here. Should could exercise her constitutional power to essentially run the Senate.
 
Actually, she is correct on this one. Presiding over the Senate is a Constitutional duty. Most VP's simply don't exercise it and it has become common practice for freshman Senators to preside over the Senate in order to learn Senate procedure. Technically, Sarah is correct here. Should could exercise her constitutional power to essentially run the Senate.

Clean the wax out of your ears. She said the VP is IN CHARGE of the Senate. That is not true technically or otherwise. But props for the creative spin attempt nonetheless.
 
Actually, she is correct on this one. Presiding over the Senate is a Constitutional duty. Most VP's simply don't exercise it and it has become common practice for freshman Senators to preside over the Senate in order to learn Senate procedure. Technically, Sarah is correct here. Should could exercise her constitutional power to essentially run the Senate.

President of the Senate yes. Duties include breaking a tie vote. NOT "getting in there" with the Senate and making policy.

only that he "shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be evenly divided" (Article I, section 3).
 
Clean the wax out of your ears. She said the VP is IN CHARGE of the Senate. That is not true technically or otherwise. But props for the creative spin attempt nonetheless.

The Constitutional authority granted to the VP is to preside over the Senate. Here is the Webster's defintion of preside. Key words in bold.

Main Entry: pre·side
Pronunciation: \pri-&#712;z&#299;d\
Function: intransitive verb
Inflected Form(s): pre·sid·ed; pre·sid·ing
Etymology: Latin praesid&#275;re to guard, preside over, from prae- + sed&#275;re to sit — more at sit
Date: 1608
1: to exercise guidance, direction, or control
2 a: to occupy the place of authority : act as president, chairman, or moderator b: to occupy a position similar to that of a president or chairman
3: to occupy a position of featured instrumental performer —usually used with at<presided at the organ>
— pre·sid·er noun
preside - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Go back to your sandbox and let the adults talk.
 
Everyone makes gaffes. Playing "gotcha" is for hypocrites.

gotcha? she answered the question of a THIRD GRADER dillo. There is no "gotcha" about it. She thinks she can "get in there" with the Senate and MAKE POLICY! that's one hell of a gaffe isn't it? and she's prone to some whoppers

The Constitutional authority granted to the VP is to preside over the Senate.

the only authority the VP has over the Senate is the cast a vote in the event of a tie. Do you think it means more than that Crimson?
 
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The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided.
Article One of the Constitution

Unless a tie break is required, it's more of a figurehead position.

the modern role of VP's has been to preside over the Senate &#8220;only on ceremonial occasions.&#8221;

In modern practice the Vice President doesn&#8217;t really control the Senate. &#8230; If anyone has a responsibility to try to govern the Senate, it&#8217;s the responsibility of the two leaders.

*shrugs*
 
President of the Senate yes. Duties include breaking a tie vote. NOT "getting in there" with the Senate and making policy.

She could. It is within her power. She doesn' have a vote, nothing says that could not be recognized to speak on the floor.
 
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The Constitution grants the VP the authority to preside over the Senate at their will. This position does not give them a vote unless there is a tie. However, the VP can still be present and still be part of the discussion. In the past few administrations, this hasn't been the case. But the fact is the VP still has that authority.
 
She could. It is within her power. She doesn' have a vote, nothing says that could not be recognized to speak on the floor.

she could? based on what authority Crimson? Article One of the Constitution is pretty clear what the VP duties are in relation to the Senate.

are you intentionally being obtuse?
 
gotcha? she answered the question of a THIRD GRADER dillo. There is no "gotcha" about it. She thinks she can "get in there" with the Senate and MAKE POLICY! that's one hell of a gaffe isn't it? and she's prone to some whoppers



the only authority the VP has over the Senate is the cast a vote in the event of a tie. Do you think it means more than that Crimson?

You understand of course that a VP has easy access to any Senator and can use that access to influence policy ?
 
she could? based on what authority Crimson? Article One of the Constitution is pretty clear what the VP duties are in relation to the Senate.

are you intentionally being obtuse?

Preside over wuld include the duty of recognizing who can and can not have the floor at any point in time. She has that power if she were to chose to use it.
 
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Nice spin.

So you're admitting that you're a retard too and you actually believe that the VP is IN CHARGE of the Senate. Duly noted. :rofl:

I am saying that the VP could be in charge of the Senate. Unless of course you liberals are for a strict interpretaion of the Constitution. :eusa_whistle:

It amazes me how that strict interpretation comes out in liberals when things don't go their way. Otherwise we can be loose with it.

In practice the VP is merely a figurehead. A tie breaker. However, the power that the VP is granted in the Constitution's wording of, "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided." , gives the VP the authority to preside over the Senate. She could exert more power and be Consitutionally sound in doing so. Do I think it ios a good idea? No, but It could happen.
 

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