Palin Defeats Obama

[driveby]

Which just makes this more opinion bullshit, and opinions being like rectal os....... well, you get the point, maybe......

Me, I like it that the RWWs have this Palin clown to the forefront. Between that and the family hoorah that they just can't seem to avoid, LOL...... I also like it that it can be gender equal, that a female can be every bit as ridiculous as a male.

Yup. I don't think she really deserves as much credit as she's being given for whatever reason the Senate milquetoasts backed off of end-of-life provisions, but if they want to put her out there front and center again, they can go right ahead.

Let the public be reminded why so many voted against her being a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

oh but your Ossiah is blaming republicans for his dropping of the public option. Tell me, how are the republicans responsible for that when they basically have no power?

The constant $100.00 question none of these fucking morons can answer.......

 

[Sinatra]

Yup. I don't think she really deserves as much credit as she's being given for whatever reason the Senate milquetoasts backed off of end-of-life provisions, but if they want to put her out there front and center again, they can go right ahead.

Let the public be reminded why so many voted against her being a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

oh but your Ossiah is blaming republicans for his dropping of the public option. Tell me, how are the republicans responsible for that when they basically have no power?

The constant $100.00 question none of these fucking morons can answer.......

Yes indeed - Obama's decline among Republicans was expected. His decline among Independents, slower but considerable. And now his decline among those within his own party - very dangerous for him politically...

 

[Vanquish]

To be fair, you haven't proven that you're Ulsterman. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

As far as saying "dems are obsessing" that's a jab, and a pretty unprovable one at that. It's your opinion, but it doesn't really advance the conversation, does it?

 

[Sinatra]

To be fair, you haven't proven that you're Ulsterman. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

As far as saying "dems are obsessing" that's a jab, and a pretty unprovable one at that. It's your opinion, but it doesn't really advance the conversation, does it?

That would depend on which direction I wish the conversation to be advanced, would it not?

 

[Vanquish]

Well I was assuming you were attempting to advance the discussion in good faith towards some meaningful discussion of Palin's effect on the national debate.

But if you're not, then sure, you've advanced the discussion towards petty insults.

 

[EriktheRed]

Which just makes this more opinion bullshit, and opinions being like rectal os....... well, you get the point, maybe......

Me, I like it that the RWWs have this Palin clown to the forefront. Between that and the family hoorah that they just can't seem to avoid, LOL...... I also like it that it can be gender equal, that a female can be every bit as ridiculous as a male.

Yup. I don't think she really deserves as much credit as she's being given for whatever reason the Senate milquetoasts backed off of end-of-life provisions, but if they want to put her out there front and center again, they can go right ahead.

Let the public be reminded why so many voted against her being a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

oh but your Ossiah is blaming republicans for his dropping of the public option. Tell me, how are the republicans responsible for that when they basically have no power?

That's called politics, and it's the same thing as when seemingly-powerless Dems managed to derail so-called SS reform. Shrub went and blamed them (and they did deserve at least some credit) when many of his own party-members in the majority at the time were also to blame.


It would be nice to see the Prez publicly smack around Sens. Ben Nelson, Baucus and a few others in his own party, but that ain't gonna happen.

 

[elvis]

Yup. I don't think she really deserves as much credit as she's being given for whatever reason the Senate milquetoasts backed off of end-of-life provisions, but if they want to put her out there front and center again, they can go right ahead.

Let the public be reminded why so many voted against her being a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

oh but your Ossiah is blaming republicans for his dropping of the public option. Tell me, how are the republicans responsible for that when they basically have no power?

That's called politics, and it's the same thing as when seemingly-powerless Dems managed to derail so-called SS reform. Shrub went and blamed them (and they did deserve at least some credit) when many of his own party-members in the majority at the time were also to blame.


It would be nice to see the Prez publicly smack around Sens. Ben Nelson, Baucus and a few others in his own party, but that ain't gonna happen.

ok, so there are democrats who would have voted it down. Is that what you're saying?

 

[EriktheRed]

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The constant $100.00 question none of these fucking morons can answer.......

See above...

 

[EriktheRed]

oh but your Ossiah is blaming republicans for his dropping of the public option. Tell me, how are the republicans responsible for that when they basically have no power?

That's called politics, and it's the same thing as when seemingly-powerless Dems managed to derail so-called SS reform. Shrub went and blamed them (and they did deserve at least some credit) when many of his own party-members in the majority at the time were also to blame.


It would be nice to see the Prez publicly smack around Sens. Ben Nelson, Baucus and a few others in his own party, but that ain't gonna happen.

ok, so there are democrats who would have voted it down. Is that what you're saying?

Voted what down? What's going on now or the SS thing?

 

[elvis]

That's called politics, and it's the same thing as when seemingly-powerless Dems managed to derail so-called SS reform. Shrub went and blamed them (and they did deserve at least some credit) when many of his own party-members in the majority at the time were also to blame.


It would be nice to see the Prez publicly smack around Sens. Ben Nelson, Baucus and a few others in his own party, but that ain't gonna happen.

ok, so there are democrats who would have voted it down. Is that what you're saying?

Voted what down? What's going on now or the SS thing?

sorry. what's going on now. I don't see how republicans can have any pull over this bill when there are 60 dem senators and the house is controlled by dems.

 

[Shogun]

The premise of this thread is just asinine.



Is there where you run off and hide to when avoiding uncomfortable threads abut israel, Elvis?

 

[Sinatra]

Well I was assuming you were attempting to advance the discussion in good faith towards some meaningful discussion of Palin's effect on the national debate.

But if you're not, then sure, you've advanced the discussion towards petty insults.

Untrue.

 

[Sinatra]

In a remarkable show of political clout and influence, Sarah Palin finds herself, as she predicted when leaving Alaska's Governor's Mansion, working on the issues she and others feel as important to America. The Obamacare debate quickly proved the perfect opportunity for Palin to prove the truth of her resignation promise.

Just a few short months ago, Obama and the Democrat Congress had the votes, the momentum, and many thought, public opinion, regarding health care reform. A thousand page bill was passed by the House, and appeared certain to be soon sent to the President. Those opposed were quickly villified within the media, while Obama himself was content to simply await the bill to reach his desk by the end of summer.

A grassroots uprising against the bill formed several weeks ago, and it was these townhall meetings that gave voice to the opposition to Obama and his Democrats and their collective hard left policies that many in the media gleefully expressed as no longer existing. Conservative America was dead - long live socialist progressivism!

Despite the many voices raised against Obamacare at these townhall meetings, this opposition lacked a national figure to speak as one to the heart of this disapprovall, a disapproval founded in basic mistrust of the growing power, influence, and intrusion, of government on each of our lives. And then came Sarah Palin and her use of the term "Death Panels".

This term fired across the nation - some calling it an outrageous and irresponsible phrase from Palin, but many more shouting their consent and approval of its use. It signified the division within America today between those who feel government can and should do more in the day to day lives of Americans, and those who feel government must be limited, that in the words of Ronald Reagan, government is not the solution but rather the problem. Our current American government appears incapable of spending within its means, faces trillions of growing debt under the Obama administration, is increasingly uncertain of its own future, divided by partisan hackery, and lifelong politicians who are content to pass bills without reading them, showing even less thought to the potential consequences of such irresponsible governence. Sarah Palin's willingness to attack Obamacare head on, and in doing so, also attack the mainstream media and the entrenched privileged class of DC politics - both Democrat and Republican, showed her potential as both an important, and incredibly influential voice within and for, America.

The pundits mocked her again of course, attempting to dismiss her views as extremist and intellectually limited. And so Palin spoke to the issue again, this time outlining the details of her views, utilizing the very contents of the proposed Obamacare bill against those who called for its passage. In doing so she not only appeared more knowledgable than those whose job it is to review and vote on the legislation, but also bested President Obama himself, who in his endless litany of White House press releases, staged public forums, and interviews, repeated generalized statements based upon little more than a smile, shrug, and ultimately, haughty assurance that he really does know what is best for America. And while that may have worked during the campaign, the American public is no longer willing to sign Obama's blank checks, and Sarah Palin has contributed greatly to that shift in public sentiment.

Just a few days ago, Democrats agreed to remove the end-of-life provisions from the proposed healthcare bill. This proved an indisputable victory for Palin and the growing numbers opposed to Obamacare - clear proof of her growing influence within the American political landscape.

This initial victory has now been followed up with an even more significant one. More recently the Obama White House is backing off the public health option - the most significant facet of Obamacare. This defeat will of course be spun by the White House in an effort to save political face. They will now likely focus on an all out attack against the insurance industry and come up with a new layer of prohibitive regulation and call it a victory, but this newly awakened American public will know better. Just last month Obama was demanding that a public choice option must be part of the health care reform. President Obama and his Democrats were beaten by the voice of the common people, and their newly emerging national champion - Sarah Palin. In helping to defeat Obamacare, she has pushed the president into a political corner where he now faces opposition from both the extreme liberals of his party, and the moderates. The liberals are upset at losing the public choice options, while the moderates are upset at the political damage they have received because of this same public choice option.

It is now Sarah Palin who resides above the political fray, a plain talking voice of conservative ideals, unafraid to take on a president and his media pundits.

If the president is not careful, he will find himself as simply the voice of liberals.

Sarah Palin on the other hand, could very well find herself the voice of America...

Keepin' it real...

 

[DiveCon]

LK is correct. Ulsterman could be posting in New Zealand, which would be many hours ahead of sinatra and into the next day.

except ulsterman is in the state of WA as shown by his profile

 

[DiveCon]

Yup. I don't think she really deserves as much credit as she's being given for whatever reason the Senate milquetoasts backed off of end-of-life provisions, but if they want to put her out there front and center again, they can go right ahead.

Let the public be reminded why so many voted against her being a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

oh but your Ossiah is blaming republicans for his dropping of the public option. Tell me, how are the republicans responsible for that when they basically have no power?

That's called politics, and it's the same thing as when seemingly-powerless Dems managed to derail so-called SS reform. Shrub went and blamed them (and they did deserve at least some credit) when many of his own party-members in the majority at the time were also to blame.


It would be nice to see the Prez publicly smack around Sens. Ben Nelson, Baucus and a few others in his own party, but that ain't gonna happen.

except to say the dems were powerless is moronic
they had fillibuster capability
the GOP doesnt even have that

 

[Sinatra]

LK is correct. Ulsterman could be posting in New Zealand, which would be many hours ahead of sinatra and into the next day.

except ulsterman is in the state of WA as shown by his profile

And a sad liberal state it is!

 

[EriktheRed]

ok, so there are democrats who would have voted it down. Is that what you're saying?

Voted what down? What's going on now or the SS thing?

sorry. what's going on now. I don't see how republicans can have any pull over this bill when there are 60 dem senators and the house is controlled by dems.

They shouldn't, but there are a lot of Dems who are themselves invested in the status quo and are taking plenty of $$$ from the healthcare industry to keep it. Add all negative spin about how it's all gonna be like the 3rd Reich and other hypoerbole, and that gives those Dems who never really wanted in the first place cover to vote against it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I wonder when Librul Newsman Jon Stewart will weigh on on this?

 

[DiveCon]

LK is correct. Ulsterman could be posting in New Zealand, which would be many hours ahead of sinatra and into the next day.

except ulsterman is in the state of WA as shown by his profile

And a sad liberal state it is!

i know that feeling, trust me, i do

 

[DiveCon]

Voted what down? What's going on now or the SS thing?

sorry. what's going on now. I don't see how republicans can have any pull over this bill when there are 60 dem senators and the house is controlled by dems.

They shouldn't, but there are a lot of Dems who are themselves invested in the status quo and are taking plenty of $$$ from the healthcare industry to keep it. Add all negative spin about how it's all gonna be like the 3rd Reich and other hypoerbole, and that gives those Dems who never really wanted in the first place cover to vote against it.

are there more than 10?
since they could survive if they lost that many and biden could break the deciding vote