Palin Defeats Obama - Part 2

[Zoom-boing]

She's not feared you idiot. She's the one that keeps pulling up crap and spewing it all over the place as a way so that she doesn't drift off into oblivion.

No, that fucking **** Palin NEEDS Obama to stay relevant, otherwise, it's obscurity for her.

Sarah will land on her feet no matter what she decides to do. She doesn't care if she's relevant, she cares about the direction Barry is taking this country. Most people aren't in favor of it and Palin gives us a voice.

She's useful to have around to remind the American public why the better guy was voted into office, despite whatever problems he's having now.

You keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

 

[concept]

If she poses no threat to the democrap party, why is she feared and discussed so much? Why does her name keep popping up on this board if she is meaningless? You can chirp all you want, and call her anything you'd care to call her, but gentlemen, and ladies, of the liberal mind-set, she has you guys shaking in your boots. It is Palin that is going to have the last laugh here.

Really? Why do you think that?

As a vice presidential candidate with John McCain, who America loves, they lost to Obama, big time! What makes you think Sarah even has a chance against Obama now? Seriously.....?

If it weren't for Palin, Mccain would have lost by even bigger numbers.

 

[EriktheRed]

Sarah will land on her feet no matter what she decides to do. She doesn't care if she's relevant, she cares about the direction Barry is taking this country. Most people aren't in favor of it and Palin gives us a voice.

She's useful to have around to remind the American public why the better guy was voted into office, despite whatever problems he's having now.

You keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

No need to worry about feeling any better where Gov. Mooseburgers is concerned. It ain't gonna happen with her.

 

[Zoom-boing]

She's useful to have around to remind the American public why the better guy was voted into office, despite whatever problems he's having now.

You keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

No need to worry about feeling any better where Gov. Mooseburgers is concerned. It ain't gonna happen with her.

What's not going to happen? Her running for president?

 

[JakeStarkey]

If Romney had been Mac's veep candidate, the GOP may very well have won. However, count on the far right social values wing nuts to sabotage the ticket.

 

[EriktheRed]

You keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

No need to worry about feeling any better where Gov. Mooseburgers is concerned. It ain't gonna happen with her.

What's not going to happen? Her running for president?

Her being the GOP nominee, let alone winning the WH.

In the long run, she ain't beating the Prez, either. In fact, she really isn't beating him in the short-run either.

 

[EriktheRed]

If Romney had been Mac's veep candidate, the GOP may very well have won. However, count on the far right social values wing nuts to sabotage the ticket.

Mittens the Pander Bear had problems, too. Contrary to what the Palinbots on here think, though, a McCain/Romney ticket would likely have at least gotten more votes than McCain/Palin.

 

[Zoom-boing]

No need to worry about feeling any better where Gov. Mooseburgers is concerned. It ain't gonna happen with her.

What's not going to happen? Her running for president?

Her being the GOP nominee, let alone winning the WH.

In the long run, she ain't beating the Prez, either. In fact, she really isn't beating him in the short-run either.

I agree about being the nominee/winning. I don't think she should run and I'm not convinced she will, although others view that differently. I think she can do more for the Republicans out of office.

As for beating Obama -- it's not a contest and that's not what she's after anyway..

 

[Sinatra]

What's not going to happen? Her running for president?

Her being the GOP nominee, let alone winning the WH.

In the long run, she ain't beating the Prez, either. In fact, she really isn't beating him in the short-run either.

I agree about being the nominee/winning. I don't think should run and I'm not convinced she will, although others view that differently. I think she can do more for the Republicans out of office.

As for beating Obama -- it's not a contest and that's not what she's after anyway..

Good point.

It is a significant assumption regarding Palin's plan for a political future.

What is far more clear is her undeniable impact upon the social dialogue regarding this healthcare issue - her dominance in fact over Obama over said issue.

If Cap n Trade is attempted, she will quite possibly have an even greater impact.

At present, Palin's influence is far greater than the Republican Party, which is why she has become so dangerous to Democrats.

And to the current point at hand, she is absolutely correct in pointing out the ludicrous hypocrisy of attempting legitimate health care reform without tort reform - the two issues are linked.

So with the absence of tort reform, the Obama White House and Democrats are motivated to other means - simple expansion of government powers perhaps?

 

[concept]

We laugh at you. We especially laugh when you say we fear her.

This coming from the dude with the hannity nazi avatar.

Yeah you're relevant. LOL!!

Thank you.

I accept your surrender.

 

[Sinatra]

Palin Defeats Obama - Part 2 | Newsflavor

Excerpts:

Having dealt President Obama a critical blow on the health care debate with her strongly worded warning against potential death panels, Sarah Palin now turns her attention for the need for tort reform in America, and sends the Democrats scrambling for cover yet again…


Perhaps sensing their collective weakness, Sarah Palin has struck again with a second aggressive Twitter post, declaring that no truthful debate on healthcare can occur without demands for long-needed tort reform. That if the president and his Democrats are serious about curbing the cost of health care, then the costs of an overly litigious society and the resulting impacts upon health care must be part of the conversation, a requirement Obama and his Democrats have up to this point, steadfastly refused.

When Texas enacted healthcare lawsuit caps, it found an overall reduction in related healthcare costs of 41 percent. Texas also saw a corresponding increase of doctors wanting to come to Texas to practice medicine of over 50% - a clear win-win for the citizens of Texas. And yet despite this clear connection between tort reform and reduction in healthcare costs, Obama and his Democrats have yet to make tort reform a part of the national discussion. Perhaps the fact that the top law firms in America regularly contribute over 90% of their political donations to Democrats vs Republicans has something to do with this seeming allegiance Democrats have for trial lawyers. Obama himself held a sizeable fundraiser with the national trial lawyers’ political lobby, and Vice President Joe Biden has a 100% legislative voting record against any and all proposed tort reform that has been introduced over the years.

Palin Defeats Obama - Part 2 | Newsflavor

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[Sinatra]

Palin: Can't have health care reform without medical malpractice reform | Washington Examiner

Excerpt:


Palin notes the inextricable link between controlling health care costs and getting spiralling medical malpractice insurance premiums under control, and quotes from a recent oped in The Washington Examiner by Texas Gov. Rick Perry discussing his state's success in lowering costs and expanding access by capping malpractice awards.

Palin also quotes extensively from research by Dr. Stuart Weinstein of the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons, including this graph:

”The medical liability crisis has had many unintended consequences, most notably a decrease in access to care in a growing number of states and an increase in healthcare costs. Access is affected as physicians move their practices to states with lower liability rates and change their practice patterns to reduce or eliminate high-risk services. When one considers that half of all neurosurgeons—as well as one third of all orthopedic surgeons, one third of all emergency physicians, and one third of all trauma surgeons—are sued each year, is it any wonder that 70 percent of emergency departments are at risk because they lack available on-call specialist coverage?”

Palin then asks Obama:

"So I have new questions for the president: Why no legal reform? Why continue to encourage defensive medicine that wastes billions of dollars and does nothing for the patients? Do you want health care reform to benefit trial attorneys or patients?"

Obama was asked about his position on medical malpractice caps when he addressed the American Medical Association in June. He said he opposed inclusion of such caps in the health care reform legislation making its way through Congress.

As the Examiner's David Freddoso noted last week:

An Examiner analysis of the 15 firms on the National Law Journal's "2008 Plaintiff's Hot List" shows that for 2009, their employees have contributed $636,305 to federal politicians and PACs. Only $4,875 of that amount has gone to Republicans, meaning that the nation's top trial lawyers are giving more than 99 percent Democratic this year. The PAC for the American Association of Justice, the top trial lawyer lobbying group, has been marginally more balanced, giving Democrats a mere 96 percent of its $627,000 in contributions.


Palin: Can't have health care reform without medical malpractice reform | Washington Examiner

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, if Pain in the Ass Palin wants to stay relevant, she should grow a brain.

Shit...........my fucking cats are smarter than that bitch.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, if Pain in the Ass Palin wants to stay relevant, she should grow a brain.

Shit...........my fucking cats are smarter than that bitch.

 

[rightwinger]

Ah yes........Palin picking up another magic bullet solution from her right wing benefactors

Economic problems???.........Cut taxes
Healthcare problems???.......Cut lawsuits

republicans have been pushing tort reform for decades. In fact, most states already have limitations on lawsuits. Most of these tort reforms have not resulted in significant savings "trickling down" to the patients. Instead, they result in greater profits for the hospitals, insurance companies and doctors.

"Tinkle down" doesn't work with tax cuts and it doesn't work for tort reform

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Ah yes........Palin picking up another magic bullet solution from her right wing benefactors

Economic problems???.........Cut taxes
Healthcare problems???.......Cut lawsuits

republicans have been pushing tort reform for decades. In fact, most states already have limitations on lawsuits. Most of these tort reforms have not resulted in significant savings "trickling down" to the patients. Instead, they result in greater profits for the hospitals, insurance companies and doctors.

"Tinkle down" doesn't work with tax cuts and it doesn't work for tort reform

Right, because you say so.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Know why trickle down doesn't work?

Remember the bank bailouts? Those at the top (CEO's), held on to all the money rather than starting to distribute the loans to the people.

THAT is why trickle down doesn't work. The greedy fucks at the top take it all before it makes it to the rest of us.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Know why trickle down doesn't work?

Remember the bank bailouts? Those at the top (CEO's), held on to all the money rather than starting to distribute the loans to the people.

THAT is why trickle down doesn't work. The greedy fucks at the top take it all before it makes it to the rest of us.

I try to not take advise from the clueless.

It's worked out well for me

 

[rightwinger]

Know why trickle down doesn't work?

Remember the bank bailouts? Those at the top (CEO's), held on to all the money rather than starting to distribute the loans to the people.

THAT is why trickle down doesn't work. The greedy fucks at the top take it all before it makes it to the rest of us.

And thats why tort reform doesn't work. Any savings from lawsuits are taken as profits by the insurance companies and hospitals long before any of it "tinkles down" to the consumer.

If tort reform is the answer to our healthcare woes, then show me where it has been reflected with reduced costs to patients in states that have agressive tort reform?

 

[ABikerSailor]

Know why trickle down doesn't work?

Remember the bank bailouts? Those at the top (CEO's), held on to all the money rather than starting to distribute the loans to the people.

THAT is why trickle down doesn't work. The greedy fucks at the top take it all before it makes it to the rest of us.

I try to not take advise from the clueless.

It's worked out well for me

All right, provide me three examples where trickle down has worked in the business world.

Speaking of clueless Crusader Fag, how's tricks?