Palestinians Hold The Key To Their Own Future

[MJB12741]

We Palestinians hold the key to a better future Bassem Eid The Blogs The Times of Israel

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I don't agree with that,MJB. Because there is no such thing as a Palestinian. The people of Palestine were always known as the Jews. They have never called themselves Palestinians. The Arabs began calling themselves Palestinians some time after Israel was reborn in order to confuse the world into believing they had a claim to it. They don't.

Had the Jews recognized the moment - after the 6 day war - in which they took the Temple Mount and every single Arab fled - they would have realized that God's Word about coming into the land - still stood. Destroy the high places, tear down the altars of Baal! (Al Asqa Mosque) and drive out the inhabitants of the land! Not give your enemy (who has vowed to destroy you) control of the Temple Mount and let them dwell amongst you! It was a huge mistake. Can the LORD fix that? He not only can! He will!

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Look at this, MJ. This is the Word of the LORD to the Jews when they entered into the land God gave them.

It is written:
Then ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures, and destroy all their molten images, and quite pluck down all their high places. Numbers 33:52

God warns them about what will happen if they don't do it. Here it is:

But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you, then is shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.
Numbers 55:55

Are we there yet? Yes. We are. Since the decision was made by General Uzi to not remove the Al Asqa mosque (blow it up with dynamite and get rid of it) from the Temple Mount ( after winning it in 6 day war) but rather to give it to the Arabs and permit them to remain in the land, the Word of the LORD was fulfilled and it has been a total nightmare ever since. Will the LORD fix that in the future? Yes. He will. Still, it wasn't necessary. When they entered into that land and came under attack - after 6 day war - it was the time to drive the inhabitants out and tear down the high places.

 

[MJB12741]

I don't agree with that,MJB. Because there is no such thing as a Palestinian. The people of Palestine were always known as the Jews. They have never called themselves Palestinians. The Arabs began calling themselves Palestinians some time after Israel was reborn in order to confuse the world into believing they had a claim to it. They don't.

Had the Jews recognized the moment - after the 6 day war - in which they took the Temple Mount and every single Arab fled - they would have realized that God's Word about coming into the land - still stood. Destroy the high places, tear down the altars of Baal! (Al Asqa Mosque) and drive out the inhabitants of the land! Not give your enemy (who has vowed to destroy you) control of the Temple Mount and let them dwell amongst you! It was a huge mistake. Can the LORD fix that? He not only can! He will!

That is true. However for lack of a better name for these land thieves in Israel I refer to today's "Palestinians" as predominantly Muslims.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I already knew you didn't believe they were really Palestinians, MJB. I'm just checking to see if you are reading my responses on your thread.
Good to see ya - hope to see ya again...

(I took the liberty of giving a little Pal history 101 while I was at it - I knew you wouldn't mind! )

 

[Mineva]

There wont be an Israel in the future. You will understand what I mean soon, follow Turkiye day by day.

 

[Daniyel]

There wont be an Israel in the future. You will understand what I mean soon, follow Turkiye day by day.

Turkey is degrading day by day, economically and mentally.

 

[MJB12741]

There wont be an Israel in the future. You will understand what I mean soon, follow Turkiye day by day.

For over 3000 years people like you have been saying "there won't be any Israel in the future." And 3000 years from now people like you will still be saying "there won't be any Israel in the future."

 

[montelatici]

I don't agree with that,MJB. Because there is no such thing as a Palestinian. The people of Palestine were always known as the Jews. They have never called themselves Palestinians. The Arabs began calling themselves Palestinians some time after Israel was reborn in order to confuse the world into believing they had a claim to it. They don't.

Had the Jews recognized the moment - after the 6 day war - in which they took the Temple Mount and every single Arab fled - they would have realized that God's Word about coming into the land - still stood. Destroy the high places, tear down the altars of Baal! (Al Asqa Mosque) and drive out the inhabitants of the land! Not give your enemy (who has vowed to destroy you) control of the Temple Mount and let them dwell amongst you! It was a huge mistake. Can the LORD fix that? He not only can! He will!

Besides being a crazy fundamentalist, on the par with the worst of the Islamist crazies. You are full of shit.

The people of Palestine were Christians until the Byzantines were defeated and then many converted to Islam. Why would they call themselves Jews?

The Palestinians were calling themselves, in writing, the Palestinian People in the earliest negotiations with the British.

"PALESTINE.
CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB
DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.


No. 1.
The Palestine Arab Delegation to the Secretary of State for the Colonies.


HOTEL CECIL,
London, W.C.,
February 21st, 1922.
- See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

"Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable. If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration". - See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

 

[Phoenall]

There wont be an Israel in the future. You will understand what I mean soon, follow Turkiye day by day.

Sorry to say but it will be Palestine that will disappear leaving just gaza as the sole abode of the terrorists. They should be at home with the rest of the vermin

 

[Phoenall]

I don't agree with that,MJB. Because there is no such thing as a Palestinian. The people of Palestine were always known as the Jews. They have never called themselves Palestinians. The Arabs began calling themselves Palestinians some time after Israel was reborn in order to confuse the world into believing they had a claim to it. They don't.

Had the Jews recognized the moment - after the 6 day war - in which they took the Temple Mount and every single Arab fled - they would have realized that God's Word about coming into the land - still stood. Destroy the high places, tear down the altars of Baal! (Al Asqa Mosque) and drive out the inhabitants of the land! Not give your enemy (who has vowed to destroy you) control of the Temple Mount and let them dwell amongst you! It was a huge mistake. Can the LORD fix that? He not only can! He will!

Besides being a crazy fundamentalist, on the par with the worst of the Islamist crazies. You are full of shit.

The people of Palestine were Christians until the Byzantines were defeated and then many converted to Islam. Why would they call themselves Jews?

The Palestinians were calling themselves, in writing, the Palestinian People in the earliest negotiations with the British.

"PALESTINE.
CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB
DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.


No. 1.
The Palestine Arab Delegation to the Secretary of State for the Colonies.


HOTEL CECIL,
London, W.C.,
February 21st, 1922.
- See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

"Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable. If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration". - See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

BULLSHIT and not worth the paper it was written on. The arab leaders had already agreed to a JEWISH HOMELAND in Palestine until oil was discovered and the arab league quoted the Koran. So stick your ISLAMONAZI propaganda and lies where you stick your stones

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

It is impossible that any Arab was called a Palestinian prior to birth of Israel - actually closer to 1960 as Arafat had not been trained by the Russian school (for propaganda, subversive techniques) Baleshinka until about 1960 and that was when the strategy of calling themselves Palestinians came up. Someone told me about that - the information came from a former States Department guy in the know - could not say who it was but it does not matter - bottom line is it was a strategy to undermine the rights of Jews to their own land.

The original inhabitants of the land were Caanites and they were pagans. That was over 4,000 years ago - since then the land belonged to Israel leaving out her time of exile. They are home now to stay. This is it.

 

[MJB12741]

My only condemnation of Israel is over Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. Who else ever made peace offerings to Palestinians, built a security fence & conceeded land to them so they can stay? Want peace from Palestinians? Treat them with the same love, justice & respect the surrounding Arab countries give them.

 

[MJB12741]

My only condemnation of Israel is over Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. Who else ever made peace offerings to Palestinians, built a security fence & conceeded land to them so they can stay? Want peace from Palestinians? Treat them with the same love, justice & respect the surrounding Arab countries give them.

Want peace? Israel needs a leader like king Hussein who understood Palestinian mentality & knew how to achieve peace from them.

 

[montelatici]

It is impossible that any Arab was called a Palestinian prior to birth of Israel - actually closer to 1960 as Arafat had not been trained by the Russian school (for propaganda, subversive techniques) Baleshinka until about 1960 and that was when the strategy of calling themselves Palestinians came up. Someone told me about that - the information came from a former States Department guy in the know - could not say who it was but it does not matter - bottom line is it was a strategy to undermine the rights of Jews to their own land.

The original inhabitants of the land were Caanites and they were pagans. That was over 4,000 years ago - since then the land belonged to Israel leaving out her time of exile. They are home now to stay. This is it.

Just goes to show how pervasive the Zionist propaganda is. This poster is convinced that "It is impossible that any Arab was called a Palestinian prior to the birth of Israel...."

Source documentation contradicts the Zionist propaganda in question, as the Christians and Muslims of the Palestinian Delegation to London were calling themselves the people of Palestine at least in 1922. The former "States Department" guy in the know" was apparently not in the know, or it is a fabrication by the poster. BTW it is the 'State Department" not the "States Department". Needless to say, the poster is full of crap.

Excerpt of letter from the Palestine Delegation to Parliament:

"Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty.
JUNE, 1922. LONDON: -
​

February 21st, 1922.

Sir,

We wish to express our thanks to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for his courtesy in allowing us to see the draft of a proposed Palestine Order in Council embodying a scheme of Government for Palestine..............Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable. If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration".

- See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

 

[montelatici]

My only condemnation of Israel is over Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. Who else ever made peace offerings to Palestinians, built a security fence & conceeded land to them so they can stay? Want peace from Palestinians? Treat them with the same love, justice & respect the surrounding Arab countries give them.

Par for the course for a racist.

 

[abu afak]

I don't agree with that,MJB. Because there is no such thing as a Palestinian. The people of Palestine were always known as the Jews. They have never called themselves Palestinians. The Arabs began calling themselves Palestinians some time after Israel was reborn in order to confuse the world into believing they had a claim to it. They don't.

Had the Jews recognized the moment - after the 6 day war - in which they took the Temple Mount and every single Arab fled - they would have realized that God's Word about coming into the land - still stood. Destroy the high places, tear down the altars of Baal! (Al Asqa Mosque) and drive out the inhabitants of the land! Not give your enemy (who has vowed to destroy you) control of the Temple Mount and let them dwell amongst you! It was a huge mistake. Can the LORD fix that? He not only can! He will!

Besides being a crazy fundamentalist, on the par with the worst of the Islamist crazies. You are full of shit.

The people of Palestine were Christians until the Byzantines were defeated and then many converted to Islam. Why would they call themselves Jews?

The Palestinians were calling themselves, in writing, the Palestinian People in the earliest negotiations with the British.

"PALESTINE.
CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB
DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.


No. 1.
The Palestine Arab Delegation to the Secretary of State for the Colonies.


HOTEL CECIL,
London, W.C.,
February 21st, 1922.
- See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

"Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable. If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration". - see more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

When will this CHERRY-PICKING SPAM end?
You keep quoting (dubious) ARAB Letters to the British Commission AS IF it Was an International Policy.
It was merely the ARAB Opinion posted on 'unispal'estinian.
(You probably thought no one would bother reading the link)

You did not/Have never quoted the Zionist nor British RESPONSES to these Arab OPINION letters, straightening them out, that can be found at the SAME link.
The Arab letters are withOUT any force of Law.

Should you wish to discuss the Legalities/Actual events, Rather than the Arab OPINION..
I'd be glad to shred it.

You're up Spammer!

.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

My only condemnation of Israel is over Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. Who else ever made peace offerings to Palestinians, built a security fence & conceeded land to them so they can stay? Want peace from Palestinians? Treat them with the same love, justice & respect the surrounding Arab countries give them.

Par for the course for a racist.

MJB is not a racist.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

It is impossible that any Arab was called a Palestinian prior to birth of Israel - actually closer to 1960 as Arafat had not been trained by the Russian school (for propaganda, subversive techniques) Baleshinka until about 1960 and that was when the strategy of calling themselves Palestinians came up. Someone told me about that - the information came from a former States Department guy in the know - could not say who it was but it does not matter - bottom line is it was a strategy to undermine the rights of Jews to their own land.

The original inhabitants of the land were Caanites and they were pagans. That was over 4,000 years ago - since then the land belonged to Israel leaving out her time of exile. They are home now to stay. This is it.

Just goes to show how pervasive the Zionist propaganda is. This poster is convinced that "It is impossible that any Arab was called a Palestinian prior to the birth of Israel...."

Source documentation contradicts the Zionist propaganda in question, as the Christians and Muslims of the Palestinian Delegation to London were calling themselves the people of Palestine at least in 1922. The former "States Department" guy in the know" was apparently not in the know, or it is a fabrication by the poster. BTW it is the 'State Department" not the "States Department". Needless to say, the poster is full of crap.

Excerpt of letter from the Palestine Delegation to Parliament:

"Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty.
JUNE, 1922. LONDON: -
​

February 21st, 1922.

Sir,

We wish to express our thanks to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for his courtesy in allowing us to see the draft of a proposed Palestine Order in Council embodying a scheme of Government for Palestine..............Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable. If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration".

- See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

I missed the word "Palestinian". Where is it?

If I were to write a letter addressing all people living inside Saudi Arabia I would say to the people of Saudi Arabia - which would be anyone living in the vicinity at the time - not necessarily from there but there at the time - as I understand it the people of Palestine were the Jews back in 1922 - there were Jews living there - so that is how I would interpret it.

 

[montelatici]

I don't agree with that,MJB. Because there is no such thing as a Palestinian. The people of Palestine were always known as the Jews. They have never called themselves Palestinians. The Arabs began calling themselves Palestinians some time after Israel was reborn in order to confuse the world into believing they had a claim to it. They don't.

Had the Jews recognized the moment - after the 6 day war - in which they took the Temple Mount and every single Arab fled - they would have realized that God's Word about coming into the land - still stood. Destroy the high places, tear down the altars of Baal! (Al Asqa Mosque) and drive out the inhabitants of the land! Not give your enemy (who has vowed to destroy you) control of the Temple Mount and let them dwell amongst you! It was a huge mistake. Can the LORD fix that? He not only can! He will!

Besides being a crazy fundamentalist, on the par with the worst of the Islamist crazies. You are full of shit.

The people of Palestine were Christians until the Byzantines were defeated and then many converted to Islam. Why would they call themselves Jews?

The Palestinians were calling themselves, in writing, the Palestinian People in the earliest negotiations with the British.

"PALESTINE.
CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB
DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.


No. 1.
The Palestine Arab Delegation to the Secretary of State for the Colonies.


HOTEL CECIL,
London, W.C.,
February 21st, 1922.
- See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

"Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable. If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration". - see more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

When will this CHERRY-PICKING SPAM end?
You keep quoting (dubious) ARAB Letters to the British Commission AS IF it Was an International Policy.
It was merely the ARAB Opinion posted on 'unispal'estinian.
(You probably thought no one would bother reading the link)

You did not/Have never quoted the Zionist nor British RESPONSES to these Arab OPINION letters, straightening them out, that can be found at the SAME link.
The Arab letters are withOUT any force of Law.

Should you wish to discuss the Legalities/Actual events, Rather than the Arab OPINION..
I'd be glad to shred it.

You're up Spammer!

.

They are not dubious letters, they are in the UN archives and in the Parliamentary archives. Nothing dubious about them. If you go to the link, you will see the British responses and the Zionist letters.

The point that was being made, is that the Palestinian people considered themselves thus, already in 1922. This contradicted the idiot that posted the propaganda nonsense that claimed that the Palestinians could not have considered themselves Palestinians before the creation of Israel in 1948. Get with the program.