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The Arabs ARE living in "Palestine"So, to cut it short, are you saying they have no rights to live in Palestine? And that the violent behavior of throwing rocks at Palestinian kids is of no consequence?What you, and the Muslims, are calling Palestine, has been called by Jews and others for over 2000 years as Judea and Samaria.The more extreme settlers are r3ligious zealots who believe themselves entitled to all of Palestine. They are not particularly peaceful or willing to share the land with Palestinians. It has been so bad that IDF soldiers have to accompany a Palestinian children to school to protect them from rock throwing.There are a few differences between the Palestinian and Settlers who attack any US convoy, or any one else:I remember when Israeli settlers attacked a US delegation.
1) It is very rare for it to happen with the Jews in Judea and Samaria.
It happens constantly with the Arabs towards Jews, or anyone else.
2) Israel does investigate and usually catches those people and they are made to answer for their actions.
Usually the Arabs are paid to behave in such a manner, or brought up by their clans or anti Israel NGOs to continue to behave that way.
3) Jews only want to be left alone in their cities, villages.
Arabs want the Jews to leave the whole of Judea and Samaria for good, again ( after they had it all to themselves between 1948 and 1967 )
Maybe it needs to be said again.
The religious, and non religious settlers in Judea and Samaria are only taking back part of what they lost when Jordan expelled all the Jews in 1948, after always there being Jews on that area.
(Let us not talk about all the Jews who lived in TranJordan, who are not allowed to go and live there anymore)
Let us look at how Arabs behaved since 1948.
They would shoot at Jews in Jerusalem from the hills above it, until 1967.
They did not allow Jews, or Christians, to go to their holy sites in Jerusalem or Judea and Samaria until 1967.
From where I sit, many of the Jews in Judea and Samaria have plenty of reason to "feel extreme" and behave accordingly, considering that so many attempts at coming at a peace treaty have failed miserably from the other side, as they cannot find one reason to get rid of their charters of destruction of Israel and sending the Jews into the Sea.
The IDF protects the Arabs and the Jews from attacks.
The IDF has to accompany Jews to their holy sites in Judea and Samaria at night, in order to give them protection.
Unprotected Jews have been killed, by bad PA officers themselves.
So, from the point of view of the Jewish people, YES, it is Jewish territory, stolen from them by those who have no wish at all in living peacefully with them, as they had 1300 years of a very bad habit of seeing Jews only in the light of being Dhimmis.
Had it not been for decades of rock, molotov, firebombs, etc throwing, shooting, endless attempts at making the Jews look bad with videos which only start when the Jews react to something that the Arabs have started, etc, etc, etc...... many of these "extreme" Jews would be like any others and would be living peacefully side by side with their friendly Arab neighbors.
And indeed, living side by side with Arabs does happen in many places, not only in Israel , but in Judea and Samaria.
When the Arabs learn to share any land, with their indigenous inhabitants, and not claim it as theirs - for the mere reason that they and other Muslims (Ottomans) "had it" for centuries, then we might see an end to both extremist sides.
What else would you expect from uncivilized pieces of Filth?Like these uncivilized pieces of filth?
What else would you expect from uncivilized pieces of Filth?
U.S. 'deeply concerned' over settler attack of convoy
What else would you expect from uncivilized pieces of Filth?Like these uncivilized pieces of filth?
What else would you expect from uncivilized pieces of Filth?
U.S. 'deeply concerned' over settler attack of convoy
So, to cut it short, are you saying they have no rights to live in Palestine? And that the violent behavior of throwing rocks at Palestinian kids is of no consequence?What you, and the Muslims, are calling Palestine, has been called by Jews and others for over 2000 years as Judea and Samaria.The more extreme settlers are r3ligious zealots who believe themselves entitled to all of Palestine. They are not particularly peaceful or willing to share the land with Palestinians. It has been so bad that IDF soldiers have to accompany a Palestinian children to school to protect them from rock throwing.There are a few differences between the Palestinian and Settlers who attack any US convoy, or any one else:I remember when Israeli settlers attacked a US delegation.
1) It is very rare for it to happen with the Jews in Judea and Samaria.
It happens constantly with the Arabs towards Jews, or anyone else.
2) Israel does investigate and usually catches those people and they are made to answer for their actions.
Usually the Arabs are paid to behave in such a manner, or brought up by their clans or anti Israel NGOs to continue to behave that way.
3) Jews only want to be left alone in their cities, villages.
Arabs want the Jews to leave the whole of Judea and Samaria for good, again ( after they had it all to themselves between 1948 and 1967 )
Maybe it needs to be said again.
The religious, and non religious settlers in Judea and Samaria are only taking back part of what they lost when Jordan expelled all the Jews in 1948, after always there being Jews on that area.
(Let us not talk about all the Jews who lived in TranJordan, who are not allowed to go and live there anymore)
Let us look at how Arabs behaved since 1948.
They would shoot at Jews in Jerusalem from the hills above it, until 1967.
They did not allow Jews, or Christians, to go to their holy sites in Jerusalem or Judea and Samaria until 1967.
From where I sit, many of the Jews in Judea and Samaria have plenty of reason to "feel extreme" and behave accordingly, considering that so many attempts at coming at a peace treaty have failed miserably from the other side, as they cannot find one reason to get rid of their charters of destruction of Israel and sending the Jews into the Sea.
The IDF protects the Arabs and the Jews from attacks.
The IDF has to accompany Jews to their holy sites in Judea and Samaria at night, in order to give them protection.
Unprotected Jews have been killed, by bad PA officers themselves.
So, from the point of view of the Jewish people, YES, it is Jewish territory, stolen from them by those who have no wish at all in living peacefully with them, as they had 1300 years of a very bad habit of seeing Jews only in the light of being Dhimmis.
Had it not been for decades of rock, molotov, firebombs, etc throwing, shooting, endless attempts at making the Jews look bad with videos which only start when the Jews react to something that the Arabs have started, etc, etc, etc...... many of these "extreme" Jews would be like any others and would be living peacefully side by side with their friendly Arab neighbors.
And indeed, living side by side with Arabs does happen in many places, not only in Israel , but in Judea and Samaria.
When the Arabs learn to share any land, with their indigenous inhabitants, and not claim it as theirs - for the mere reason that they and other Muslims (Ottomans) "had it" for centuries, then we might see an end to both extremist sides.
The Arabs ARE living in "Palestine"So, to cut it short, are you saying they have no rights to live in Palestine? And that the violent behavior of throwing rocks at Palestinian kids is of no consequence?What you, and the Muslims, are calling Palestine, has been called by Jews and others for over 2000 years as Judea and Samaria.The more extreme settlers are r3ligious zealots who believe themselves entitled to all of Palestine. They are not particularly peaceful or willing to share the land with Palestinians. It has been so bad that IDF soldiers have to accompany a Palestinian children to school to protect them from rock throwing.There are a few differences between the Palestinian and Settlers who attack any US convoy, or any one else:I remember when Israeli settlers attacked a US delegation.
1) It is very rare for it to happen with the Jews in Judea and Samaria.
It happens constantly with the Arabs towards Jews, or anyone else.
2) Israel does investigate and usually catches those people and they are made to answer for their actions.
Usually the Arabs are paid to behave in such a manner, or brought up by their clans or anti Israel NGOs to continue to behave that way.
3) Jews only want to be left alone in their cities, villages.
Arabs want the Jews to leave the whole of Judea and Samaria for good, again ( after they had it all to themselves between 1948 and 1967 )
Maybe it needs to be said again.
The religious, and non religious settlers in Judea and Samaria are only taking back part of what they lost when Jordan expelled all the Jews in 1948, after always there being Jews on that area.
(Let us not talk about all the Jews who lived in TranJordan, who are not allowed to go and live there anymore)
Let us look at how Arabs behaved since 1948.
They would shoot at Jews in Jerusalem from the hills above it, until 1967.
They did not allow Jews, or Christians, to go to their holy sites in Jerusalem or Judea and Samaria until 1967.
From where I sit, many of the Jews in Judea and Samaria have plenty of reason to "feel extreme" and behave accordingly, considering that so many attempts at coming at a peace treaty have failed miserably from the other side, as they cannot find one reason to get rid of their charters of destruction of Israel and sending the Jews into the Sea.
The IDF protects the Arabs and the Jews from attacks.
The IDF has to accompany Jews to their holy sites in Judea and Samaria at night, in order to give them protection.
Unprotected Jews have been killed, by bad PA officers themselves.
So, from the point of view of the Jewish people, YES, it is Jewish territory, stolen from them by those who have no wish at all in living peacefully with them, as they had 1300 years of a very bad habit of seeing Jews only in the light of being Dhimmis.
Had it not been for decades of rock, molotov, firebombs, etc throwing, shooting, endless attempts at making the Jews look bad with videos which only start when the Jews react to something that the Arabs have started, etc, etc, etc...... many of these "extreme" Jews would be like any others and would be living peacefully side by side with their friendly Arab neighbors.
And indeed, living side by side with Arabs does happen in many places, not only in Israel , but in Judea and Samaria.
When the Arabs learn to share any land, with their indigenous inhabitants, and not claim it as theirs - for the mere reason that they and other Muslims (Ottomans) "had it" for centuries, then we might see an end to both extremist sides.
TranJordan is Palestine
Israel is Palestine
Gaza is Palestine
Judea and Samaria is Palestine
Arabs are living in all four areas.
Jews are only living in two of them.
I am not amazed as to how you fail to understand what is written, the facts on the ground, the facts of 1400 years of Arab and Muslim control of the area.The Arabs ARE living in "Palestine"So, to cut it short, are you saying they have no rights to live in Palestine? And that the violent behavior of throwing rocks at Palestinian kids is of no consequence?What you, and the Muslims, are calling Palestine, has been called by Jews and others for over 2000 years as Judea and Samaria.The more extreme settlers are r3ligious zealots who believe themselves entitled to all of Palestine. They are not particularly peaceful or willing to share the land with Palestinians. It has been so bad that IDF soldiers have to accompany a Palestinian children to school to protect them from rock throwing.There are a few differences between the Palestinian and Settlers who attack any US convoy, or any one else:
1) It is very rare for it to happen with the Jews in Judea and Samaria.
It happens constantly with the Arabs towards Jews, or anyone else.
2) Israel does investigate and usually catches those people and they are made to answer for their actions.
Usually the Arabs are paid to behave in such a manner, or brought up by their clans or anti Israel NGOs to continue to behave that way.
3) Jews only want to be left alone in their cities, villages.
Arabs want the Jews to leave the whole of Judea and Samaria for good, again ( after they had it all to themselves between 1948 and 1967 )
Maybe it needs to be said again.
The religious, and non religious settlers in Judea and Samaria are only taking back part of what they lost when Jordan expelled all the Jews in 1948, after always there being Jews on that area.
(Let us not talk about all the Jews who lived in TranJordan, who are not allowed to go and live there anymore)
Let us look at how Arabs behaved since 1948.
They would shoot at Jews in Jerusalem from the hills above it, until 1967.
They did not allow Jews, or Christians, to go to their holy sites in Jerusalem or Judea and Samaria until 1967.
From where I sit, many of the Jews in Judea and Samaria have plenty of reason to "feel extreme" and behave accordingly, considering that so many attempts at coming at a peace treaty have failed miserably from the other side, as they cannot find one reason to get rid of their charters of destruction of Israel and sending the Jews into the Sea.
The IDF protects the Arabs and the Jews from attacks.
The IDF has to accompany Jews to their holy sites in Judea and Samaria at night, in order to give them protection.
Unprotected Jews have been killed, by bad PA officers themselves.
So, from the point of view of the Jewish people, YES, it is Jewish territory, stolen from them by those who have no wish at all in living peacefully with them, as they had 1300 years of a very bad habit of seeing Jews only in the light of being Dhimmis.
Had it not been for decades of rock, molotov, firebombs, etc throwing, shooting, endless attempts at making the Jews look bad with videos which only start when the Jews react to something that the Arabs have started, etc, etc, etc...... many of these "extreme" Jews would be like any others and would be living peacefully side by side with their friendly Arab neighbors.
And indeed, living side by side with Arabs does happen in many places, not only in Israel , but in Judea and Samaria.
When the Arabs learn to share any land, with their indigenous inhabitants, and not claim it as theirs - for the mere reason that they and other Muslims (Ottomans) "had it" for centuries, then we might see an end to both extremist sides.
TranJordan is Palestine
Israel is Palestine
Gaza is Palestine
Judea and Samaria is Palestine
Arabs are living in all four areas.
Jews are only living in two of them.
So the native Arabs should be abused in two of them?
In other words you do not believe they deserve their own land or have any rights to Palestine, where they came from.Unfit Prehistoric Species Driven Into No Man's Land As a HideoutWhat you, and the Muslims, are calling Palestine, has been called by Jews and others for over 2000 years as Judea and Samaria.The more extreme settlers are r3ligious zealots who believe themselves entitled to all of Palestine. They are not particularly peaceful or willing to share the land with Palestinians. It has been so bad that IDF soldiers have to accompany a Palestinian children to school to protect them from rock throwing.There are a few differences between the Palestinian and Settlers who attack any US convoy, or any one else:
1) It is very rare for it to happen with the Jews in Judea and Samaria.
It happens constantly with the Arabs towards Jews, or anyone else.
2) Israel does investigate and usually catches those people and they are made to answer for their actions.
Usually the Arabs are paid to behave in such a manner, or brought up by their clans or anti Israel NGOs to continue to behave that way.
3) Jews only want to be left alone in their cities, villages.
Arabs want the Jews to leave the whole of Judea and Samaria for good, again ( after they had it all to themselves between 1948 and 1967 )
Maybe it needs to be said again.
The religious, and non religious settlers in Judea and Samaria are only taking back part of what they lost when Jordan expelled all the Jews in 1948, after always there being Jews on that area.
(Let us not talk about all the Jews who lived in TranJordan, who are not allowed to go and live there anymore)
Let us look at how Arabs behaved since 1948.
They would shoot at Jews in Jerusalem from the hills above it, until 1967.
They did not allow Jews, or Christians, to go to their holy sites in Jerusalem or Judea and Samaria until 1967.
From where I sit, many of the Jews in Judea and Samaria have plenty of reason to "feel extreme" and behave accordingly, considering that so many attempts at coming at a peace treaty have failed miserably from the other side, as they cannot find one reason to get rid of their charters of destruction of Israel and sending the Jews into the Sea.
The IDF protects the Arabs and the Jews from attacks.
The IDF has to accompany Jews to their holy sites in Judea and Samaria at night, in order to give them protection.
Unprotected Jews have been killed, by bad PA officers themselves.
So, from the point of view of the Jewish people, YES, it is Jewish territory, stolen from them by those who have no wish at all in living peacefully with them, as they had 1300 years of a very bad habit of seeing Jews only in the light of being Dhimmis.
Had it not been for decades of rock, molotov, firebombs, etc throwing, shooting, endless attempts at making the Jews look bad with videos which only start when the Jews react to something that the Arabs have started, etc, etc, etc...... many of these "extreme" Jews would be like any others and would be living peacefully side by side with their friendly Arab neighbors.
And indeed, living side by side with Arabs does happen in many places, not only in Israel , but in Judea and Samaria.
When the Arabs learn to share any land, with their indigenous inhabitants, and not claim it as theirs - for the mere reason that they and other Muslims (Ottomans) "had it" for centuries, then we might see an end to both extremist sides.
Israel should deport all Arabs and take back the territories won in 1967. The Arabs have no homeland and must be made to run for their lives back into the desert they crept out of.They are vicious predatory bandits and need to be expelled from the family of nations.
I believe the Palestinians need & deserve their own Palestinian land with self determination so they won't have Israel to provide for them any longer while they bitch about it. Problem is where as no surrounding Arab country will grant their Palestinians a right of return. Do you think maybe Mecca might be a nice place for a Palestinian State?
In other words you do not believe they deserve their own land or have any rights to Palestine, where they came from.Unfit Prehistoric Species Driven Into No Man's Land As a HideoutWhat you, and the Muslims, are calling Palestine, has been called by Jews and others for over 2000 years as Judea and Samaria.The more extreme settlers are r3ligious zealots who believe themselves entitled to all of Palestine. They are not particularly peaceful or willing to share the land with Palestinians. It has been so bad that IDF soldiers have to accompany a Palestinian children to school to protect them from rock throwing.
Maybe it needs to be said again.
The religious, and non religious settlers in Judea and Samaria are only taking back part of what they lost when Jordan expelled all the Jews in 1948, after always there being Jews on that area.
(Let us not talk about all the Jews who lived in TranJordan, who are not allowed to go and live there anymore)
Let us look at how Arabs behaved since 1948.
They would shoot at Jews in Jerusalem from the hills above it, until 1967.
They did not allow Jews, or Christians, to go to their holy sites in Jerusalem or Judea and Samaria until 1967.
From where I sit, many of the Jews in Judea and Samaria have plenty of reason to "feel extreme" and behave accordingly, considering that so many attempts at coming at a peace treaty have failed miserably from the other side, as they cannot find one reason to get rid of their charters of destruction of Israel and sending the Jews into the Sea.
The IDF protects the Arabs and the Jews from attacks.
The IDF has to accompany Jews to their holy sites in Judea and Samaria at night, in order to give them protection.
Unprotected Jews have been killed, by bad PA officers themselves.
So, from the point of view of the Jewish people, YES, it is Jewish territory, stolen from them by those who have no wish at all in living peacefully with them, as they had 1300 years of a very bad habit of seeing Jews only in the light of being Dhimmis.
Had it not been for decades of rock, molotov, firebombs, etc throwing, shooting, endless attempts at making the Jews look bad with videos which only start when the Jews react to something that the Arabs have started, etc, etc, etc...... many of these "extreme" Jews would be like any others and would be living peacefully side by side with their friendly Arab neighbors.
And indeed, living side by side with Arabs does happen in many places, not only in Israel , but in Judea and Samaria.
When the Arabs learn to share any land, with their indigenous inhabitants, and not claim it as theirs - for the mere reason that they and other Muslims (Ottomans) "had it" for centuries, then we might see an end to both extremist sides.
Israel should deport all Arabs and take back the territories won in 1967. The Arabs have no homeland and must be made to run for their lives back into the desert they crept out of.They are vicious predatory bandits and need to be expelled from the family of nations.
I believe the Palestinians need & deserve their own Palestinian land with self determination so they won't have Israel to provide for them any longer while they bitch about it. Problem is where as no surrounding Arab country will grant their Palestinians a right of return. Do you think maybe Mecca might be a nice place for a Palestinian State?
Are you serious that todays Palestinians came from "Palestine"?
Israel is not expelling Millions of people from their homeland since the war of 1948. Except for those who have attacked Israel and wanted to kill Jews and destroy the country.In other words you do not believe they deserve their own land or have any rights to Palestine, where they came from.Unfit Prehistoric Species Driven Into No Man's Land As a HideoutWhat you, and the Muslims, are calling Palestine, has been called by Jews and others for over 2000 years as Judea and Samaria.
Maybe it needs to be said again.
The religious, and non religious settlers in Judea and Samaria are only taking back part of what they lost when Jordan expelled all the Jews in 1948, after always there being Jews on that area.
(Let us not talk about all the Jews who lived in TranJordan, who are not allowed to go and live there anymore)
Let us look at how Arabs behaved since 1948.
They would shoot at Jews in Jerusalem from the hills above it, until 1967.
They did not allow Jews, or Christians, to go to their holy sites in Jerusalem or Judea and Samaria until 1967.
From where I sit, many of the Jews in Judea and Samaria have plenty of reason to "feel extreme" and behave accordingly, considering that so many attempts at coming at a peace treaty have failed miserably from the other side, as they cannot find one reason to get rid of their charters of destruction of Israel and sending the Jews into the Sea.
The IDF protects the Arabs and the Jews from attacks.
The IDF has to accompany Jews to their holy sites in Judea and Samaria at night, in order to give them protection.
Unprotected Jews have been killed, by bad PA officers themselves.
So, from the point of view of the Jewish people, YES, it is Jewish territory, stolen from them by those who have no wish at all in living peacefully with them, as they had 1300 years of a very bad habit of seeing Jews only in the light of being Dhimmis.
Had it not been for decades of rock, molotov, firebombs, etc throwing, shooting, endless attempts at making the Jews look bad with videos which only start when the Jews react to something that the Arabs have started, etc, etc, etc...... many of these "extreme" Jews would be like any others and would be living peacefully side by side with their friendly Arab neighbors.
And indeed, living side by side with Arabs does happen in many places, not only in Israel , but in Judea and Samaria.
When the Arabs learn to share any land, with their indigenous inhabitants, and not claim it as theirs - for the mere reason that they and other Muslims (Ottomans) "had it" for centuries, then we might see an end to both extremist sides.
Israel should deport all Arabs and take back the territories won in 1967. The Arabs have no homeland and must be made to run for their lives back into the desert they crept out of.They are vicious predatory bandits and need to be expelled from the family of nations.
I believe the Palestinians need & deserve their own Palestinian land with self determination so they won't have Israel to provide for them any longer while they bitch about it. Problem is where as no surrounding Arab country will grant their Palestinians a right of return. Do you think maybe Mecca might be a nice place for a Palestinian State?
Are you serious that todays Palestinians came from "Palestine"?
Names are only names. They descend from peoples who originated in that area, as well as successive waves of Conquered.
Are you serious about expelling millions of people from their homeland and sending them to a foreign country? It is a strange thing for a Jew to want, given their own history.
Sixties...before you went on a multi paragraph outraged missive you might want to consider I was responding directly to mjb and directly to something HE proposed. Not Israel.Israel is not expelling Millions of people from their homeland since the war of 1948. Except for those who have attacked Israel and wanted to kill Jews and destroy the country.In other words you do not believe they deserve their own land or have any rights to Palestine, where they came from.Unfit Prehistoric Species Driven Into No Man's Land As a Hideout
Israel should deport all Arabs and take back the territories won in 1967. The Arabs have no homeland and must be made to run for their lives back into the desert they crept out of.They are vicious predatory bandits and need to be expelled from the family of nations.
I believe the Palestinians need & deserve their own Palestinian land with self determination so they won't have Israel to provide for them any longer while they bitch about it. Problem is where as no surrounding Arab country will grant their Palestinians a right of return. Do you think maybe Mecca might be a nice place for a Palestinian State?
Are you serious that todays Palestinians came from "Palestine"?
Names are only names. They descend from peoples who originated in that area, as well as successive waves of Conquered.
Are you serious about expelling millions of people from their homeland and sending them to a foreign country? It is a strange thing for a Jew to want, given their own history.
As other Arabs themselves will tell anyone who will care to listen,
they are from Egypt and from Saudi Arabia.
The Al Husseini family is from Saudi Arabia. Rylah has been posting where all of the clans come from, their history.
Please stop repeating what anti Israel sources say that Israel wants to do. If it were so, Israel should have expelled all the Arabs from Judea, Samaria and the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem in 1967, as the Jordanians did with all the Jews in those areas in 1948.
I am not seeing descendants of the Romans, Greeks, Byzantine or the Crusaders come to the front and saying that they are descendants of those conquerors and having a right to stay.
But the Arab Muslims, who believe that all land conquered by ANY Muslim should remain under Muslim control.......those are all over the Muslim world, saying exactly that, and behaving accordingly.
Donating Millions to Hamas, The PA and Hezbollah, to see which one of them can help put an end to Israel.
Yes, names have meaning. And those who's names say that they are from Egypt or Saudi Arabia, are very proud to say that that's were they are from.
And not one of them is being expelled from Israel.
And Israel is not expelling anyone from Gaza or the PA territories.
Sorry about that.Sixties...before you went on a multi paragraph outraged missive you might want to consider I was responding directly to mjb and directly to something HE proposed. Not Israel.Israel is not expelling Millions of people from their homeland since the war of 1948. Except for those who have attacked Israel and wanted to kill Jews and destroy the country.In other words you do not believe they deserve their own land or have any rights to Palestine, where they came from.I believe the Palestinians need & deserve their own Palestinian land with self determination so they won't have Israel to provide for them any longer while they bitch about it. Problem is where as no surrounding Arab country will grant their Palestinians a right of return. Do you think maybe Mecca might be a nice place for a Palestinian State?
Are you serious that todays Palestinians came from "Palestine"?
Names are only names. They descend from peoples who originated in that area, as well as successive waves of Conquered.
Are you serious about expelling millions of people from their homeland and sending them to a foreign country? It is a strange thing for a Jew to want, given their own history.
As other Arabs themselves will tell anyone who will care to listen,
they are from Egypt and from Saudi Arabia.
The Al Husseini family is from Saudi Arabia. Rylah has been posting where all of the clans come from, their history.
Please stop repeating what anti Israel sources say that Israel wants to do. If it were so, Israel should have expelled all the Arabs from Judea, Samaria and the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem in 1967, as the Jordanians did with all the Jews in those areas in 1948.
I am not seeing descendants of the Romans, Greeks, Byzantine or the Crusaders come to the front and saying that they are descendants of those conquerors and having a right to stay.
But the Arab Muslims, who believe that all land conquered by ANY Muslim should remain under Muslim control.......those are all over the Muslim world, saying exactly that, and behaving accordingly.
Donating Millions to Hamas, The PA and Hezbollah, to see which one of them can help put an end to Israel.
Yes, names have meaning. And those who's names say that they are from Egypt or Saudi Arabia, are very proud to say that that's were they are from.
And not one of them is being expelled from Israel.
And Israel is not expelling anyone from Gaza or the PA territories.
On the rest I already posted what historians and genetic research have said about the origins of the Palestinians, including a Jewish one. It makes sense, when you consider ancient lands that have been been conquered multiple times. The original inhabitants don’t disappear. But it doesn’t fit the anti Palestinian narraritive that needs to insist that Palestinians are invaders.
In other words you do not believe they deserve their own land or have any rights to Palestine, where they came from.Unfit Prehistoric Species Driven Into No Man's Land As a HideoutWhat you, and the Muslims, are calling Palestine, has been called by Jews and others for over 2000 years as Judea and Samaria.
Maybe it needs to be said again.
The religious, and non religious settlers in Judea and Samaria are only taking back part of what they lost when Jordan expelled all the Jews in 1948, after always there being Jews on that area.
(Let us not talk about all the Jews who lived in TranJordan, who are not allowed to go and live there anymore)
Let us look at how Arabs behaved since 1948.
They would shoot at Jews in Jerusalem from the hills above it, until 1967.
They did not allow Jews, or Christians, to go to their holy sites in Jerusalem or Judea and Samaria until 1967.
From where I sit, many of the Jews in Judea and Samaria have plenty of reason to "feel extreme" and behave accordingly, considering that so many attempts at coming at a peace treaty have failed miserably from the other side, as they cannot find one reason to get rid of their charters of destruction of Israel and sending the Jews into the Sea.
The IDF protects the Arabs and the Jews from attacks.
The IDF has to accompany Jews to their holy sites in Judea and Samaria at night, in order to give them protection.
Unprotected Jews have been killed, by bad PA officers themselves.
So, from the point of view of the Jewish people, YES, it is Jewish territory, stolen from them by those who have no wish at all in living peacefully with them, as they had 1300 years of a very bad habit of seeing Jews only in the light of being Dhimmis.
Had it not been for decades of rock, molotov, firebombs, etc throwing, shooting, endless attempts at making the Jews look bad with videos which only start when the Jews react to something that the Arabs have started, etc, etc, etc...... many of these "extreme" Jews would be like any others and would be living peacefully side by side with their friendly Arab neighbors.
And indeed, living side by side with Arabs does happen in many places, not only in Israel , but in Judea and Samaria.
When the Arabs learn to share any land, with their indigenous inhabitants, and not claim it as theirs - for the mere reason that they and other Muslims (Ottomans) "had it" for centuries, then we might see an end to both extremist sides.
Israel should deport all Arabs and take back the territories won in 1967. The Arabs have no homeland and must be made to run for their lives back into the desert they crept out of.They are vicious predatory bandits and need to be expelled from the family of nations.
I believe the Palestinians need & deserve their own Palestinian land with self determination so they won't have Israel to provide for them any longer while they bitch about it. Problem is where as no surrounding Arab country will grant their Palestinians a right of return. Do you think maybe Mecca might be a nice place for a Palestinian State?
Are you serious that todays Palestinians came from "Palestine"?
Names are only names. They descend from peoples who originated in that area, as well as successive waves of Conquered.
Are you serious about expelling millions of people from their homeland and sending them to a foreign country? It is a strange thing for a Jew to want, given their own history.
I remember when Israeli settlers attacked a US delegation.
“I remember when Israeli settlers attacked a US delegation.”
about...immigrants [coming to america].
I remember when Israeli settlers attacked a US delegation.
“I remember when Israeli settlers attacked a US delegation.”
How about the Holocaust – remember that ?
Terrorists [incl hitler, et al] are of a different breed of ....animal(s)...
“In 1939, we turned away the St. Louis from our harbors. We didn't like immigrants. We didn't like Jews. We were afraid that German sympathizers were hiding among them. Let's not make the same mistakes again..”
. . . such nice sentiments…about...immigrants [coming to america].
I guess you should know then – you must be “up to your eyeballs” in immigrants then. Mexicans, domincans, guatlamalens….Chinese, muslims, Russians…..jamacians, Haitians, Bengals, Nigerians…..
yeah, I bet – up to your eyeballs.
Disclaimer:
I don’t really care what you choose to call them. Labels are arbitrary. They are indiginous.Sorry about that.Sixties...before you went on a multi paragraph outraged missive you might want to consider I was responding directly to mjb and directly to something HE proposed. Not Israel.Israel is not expelling Millions of people from their homeland since the war of 1948. Except for those who have attacked Israel and wanted to kill Jews and destroy the country.In other words you do not believe they deserve their own land or have any rights to Palestine, where they came from.
Are you serious that todays Palestinians came from "Palestine"?
Names are only names. They descend from peoples who originated in that area, as well as successive waves of Conquered.
Are you serious about expelling millions of people from their homeland and sending them to a foreign country? It is a strange thing for a Jew to want, given their own history.
As other Arabs themselves will tell anyone who will care to listen,
they are from Egypt and from Saudi Arabia.
The Al Husseini family is from Saudi Arabia. Rylah has been posting where all of the clans come from, their history.
Please stop repeating what anti Israel sources say that Israel wants to do. If it were so, Israel should have expelled all the Arabs from Judea, Samaria and the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem in 1967, as the Jordanians did with all the Jews in those areas in 1948.
I am not seeing descendants of the Romans, Greeks, Byzantine or the Crusaders come to the front and saying that they are descendants of those conquerors and having a right to stay.
But the Arab Muslims, who believe that all land conquered by ANY Muslim should remain under Muslim control.......those are all over the Muslim world, saying exactly that, and behaving accordingly.
Donating Millions to Hamas, The PA and Hezbollah, to see which one of them can help put an end to Israel.
Yes, names have meaning. And those who's names say that they are from Egypt or Saudi Arabia, are very proud to say that that's were they are from.
And not one of them is being expelled from Israel.
And Israel is not expelling anyone from Gaza or the PA territories.
On the rest I already posted what historians and genetic research have said about the origins of the Palestinians, including a Jewish one. It makes sense, when you consider ancient lands that have been been conquered multiple times. The original inhabitants don’t disappear. But it doesn’t fit the anti Palestinian narraritive that needs to insist that Palestinians are invaders.
To the rest of your post:
Could you gives us the links to the genetic studies you have read, please.
Jews, are the original Palestinians, in the sense that the area of Judea, etc was renamed by the Romans in 135 CE to Syria Palestina, only because of the original Philistines (translation - invaders) in order to humiliate the indigenous people who continued to revolt against them . The Jews.
There seems to be, to me, an insistence on your part (as well as others) of calling anyone who once lived on the land, as native, and especially as Palestinians.
The term Palestinians, was never used before the Mandate for Palestine.
And the Arabs never cared to call themselves Palestinians during the Mandate or at any other time since the 7th Century invasion.
In a nutshell......using the term Palestinians to refer to Jews, and all others living on the region known as Palestine by some but not all, is a constant misnomer which continues to give the impression that those now calling themselves Palestinians since 1964 CE, have been calling themselves that for thousands of years of being there, instead of being some of the most recent invaders to the area.
But, I am sure that you are going to continue to think that ALL who lived on the land for the past 20,000 years or a Million, should be called Palestinians.
I remember when Israeli settlers attacked a US delegation.
How about the Holocaust – remember that ?
Terrorists [incl hitler, et al] are of a different breed of ....animal(s)...
“In 1939, we turned away the St. Louis from our harbors. We didn't like immigrants. We didn't like Jews. We were afraid that German sympathizers were hiding among them. Let's not make the same mistakes again..”
. . . such nice sentiments…
I guess you should know then – you must be “up to your eyeballs” in immigrants then. Mexicans, domincans, guatlamalens….Chinese, muslims, Russians…..jamacians, Haitians, Bengals, Nigerians…..
yeah, I bet – up to your eyeballs.
Disclaimer:
I don’t have a problem with immigrants. Do you?
Are you saying these settler immigrants are terrorists?
Do you?"
no. i always say that about Hamass.............the wretched islamic terrorists that they are like isis and and al qu.
I remember when Israeli settlers attacked a US delegation.
How about the Holocaust – remember that ?
Terrorists [incl hitler, et al] are of a different breed of ....animal(s)...
“In 1939, we turned away the St. Louis from our harbors. We didn't like immigrants. We didn't like Jews. We were afraid that German sympathizers were hiding among them. Let's not make the same mistakes again..”
. . . such nice sentiments…
I guess you should know then – you must be “up to your eyeballs” in immigrants then. Mexicans, domincans, guatlamalens….Chinese, muslims, Russians…..jamacians, Haitians, Bengals, Nigerians…..
yeah, I bet – up to your eyeballs.
Disclaimer:
I don’t have a problem with immigrants. Do you?
Are you saying these settler immigrants are terrorists?
"I don’t have a problem with immigrants.Do you?"
you skirted the question ....how can someone like me talk about 'our immigration problem' with someone who [where i don't know geographically] lives or doesn't live [in "a world of .....these new-fangled immigrants."]
"Are you saying these settler immigrants are terrorists?"
no. i always say that about Hamass.............the wretched islamic terrorists that they are like isis and and al qu.
