Palestinian statehood blocked, equality struggle ahead

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Absent Palestinian sovereignty, Israel is imposing Jewish minority rule over the Palestinian population, thereby making an analogy to Apartheid South Africa undeniably apt.

Bibi's predecessors realized this well. During his tenure, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert commented that failure to create a Palestinian state would force Israel to "face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights, and as soon as that happens, the state of Israel is finished." Additionally, former Prime Minister and current Defense Minister, Ehud Barak, commented after leaving the prime minister’s post: “If, and as long as between the Jordan and the sea, there is only one political entity, named Israel, it will end up being either non-Jewish or non-democratic... If the Palestinians vote in elections, it is a binational state, and if they don't, it is an apartheid state.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-b...ian-statehood-blocked-equality-struggle-ahead
 
Palestinians celebrate 9/11
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrM0dAFsZ8k]Palestinians celebrating the fall of the twin towers on 911 - YouTube[/ame]

Palestinians condemned the killing of bin Laden their "holy warrior"
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVTTbmN1aRI]Palestinians condemn killing of 'holy warrior' bin Laden - YouTube[/ame]

Palestinians call for death of all Americans and Jews
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7rls9eRKyo]Islam: Oh Allah - Kill all Jews and Americans! - YouTube[/ame]

Palestinians boast of the death of their own children and wives: "We Desire Death Like You Desire Life"
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWIDZ7Jpdqg]Hamas - "We desire death like you desire life" - YouTube[/ame]

Nazi-Collaborating Palestinian Mufti Leader Greets Hitler
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSUEx1cKUlg]1941 The Grand Mufti meets Hitler - YouTube[/ame]

Islamonazi Palestinian
My message to the loathed Jews is that there is no god but allah, we will chase you everywhere We are a nation that drinks blood, and we know that there is no better blood than the blood of the Jews. We will not leave you alone until we have quenched our thirst with your blood, and our children's thirst with your blood, we will not rest until you leave the Muslim countries.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rleFpY402vM]Palestinian - Terrorism - YouTube[/ame]

Young Islamonazi-In-Training: Shahad, 9 year old Palestinian...
The Prophet Muhammad said the hour of resurrection will not take place until you fight the Jews The rock and the tree will say, "Oh, Muslim, servant of allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and fight him!"
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSwpAX1xvrc]Palestinian children are taught: Genocide is God's will - YouTube[/ame]

Welcome to the World of the Palestinian
Allah, oh our Lord
Vanquish your enemies, enemies of the religion [Islam]
in all places
Allah, strike the Jews and their sympathizers,
the Christians and their supporters
the Communists and their adherents
Allah, count them and kill them to the last one,
and don't even leave even one.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrI8-qb9M9A]Hamas: Kill Christians and Jews "to the last one" - YouTube[/ame]
 
Absent Palestinian sovereignty, Israel is imposing Jewish minority rule over the Palestinian population, thereby making an analogy to Apartheid South Africa undeniably apt.

Apartheid Arabs are DOOMED. What will all the camels do with no one to drive them?

The Economist Magazine: Arab World Self-Doomed To Failure :clap2:
WHAT went wrong with the Arab world? Why is it so stuck behind the times? It is not an obviously unlucky region. Fatly endowed with oil, and with its people sharing a rich cultural, religious and linguistic heritage, it is faced neither with endemic poverty nor with ethnic conflict. But, with barely an exception, its autocratic rulers, whether presidents or kings, give up their authority only when they die; its elections are a sick joke; half its people are treated as lesser legal and economic beings, and more than half its young, burdened by joblessness and stifled by conservative religious tradition, are said to want to get out of the place as soon as they can.

One in five Arabs still live on less than $2 a day. And, over the past 20 years, growth in income per head, at an annual rate of 0.5%, was lower than anywhere else in the world except sub-Saharan Africa. At this rate, it will take the average Arab 140 years to double his income, a target that some regions are set to reach in less than ten years. Stagnant growth, together with a fast-rising population, means vanishing jobs. Around 12m people, or 15% of the labour force, are already unemployed, and on present trends the number could rise to 25m by 2010.

Freedom. This deficit explains many of the fundamental things that are wrong with the Arab world: the survival of absolute autocracies; the holding of bogus elections; confusion between the executive and the judiciary (the report points out the close linguistic link between the two in Arabic); constraints on the media and on civil society; and a patriarchal, intolerant, sometimes suffocating social environment. The great wave of democratisation that has opened up so much of the world over the past 15 years seems to have left the Arabs untouched. Democracy is occasionally offered, but as a concession, not as a right. Freedom of expression and freedom of association are both sharply limited. Freedom House, an American-based monitor of political and civil rights, records that no Arab country has genuinely free media, and only three have “partly free”. The rest are not free

•Knowledge. “If God were to humiliate a human being,” wrote Imam Ali bin abi Taleb in the sixth century, “He would deny him knowledge.” Although the Arabs spend a higher percentage of GDP on education than any other developing region, it is not, it seems, well spent. The quality of education has deteriorated pitifully, and there is a severe mismatch between the labour market and the education system. Adult illiteracy rates have declined but are still very high: 65m adults are illiterate, almost two-thirds of them women. Some 10m children still have no schooling at all. One of the gravest results of their poor education is that the Arabs, who once led the world in science, are dropping ever further behind in scientific research and in information technology. Investment in research and development is less than one-seventh of the world average. Only 0.6% of the population uses the Internet, and 1.2% have personal computers.

•Women's status. The one thing that every outsider knows about the Arab world is that it does not treat its women as full citizens. How can a society prosper when it stifles half its productive potential? After all, even though women's literacy rates have trebled in the past 30 years, one in every two Arab women still can neither read nor write. Their participation in their countries' political and economic life is the lowest in the world.

Arab development: Self-doomed to failure | The Economist
 
Absent Palestinian sovereignty, Israel is imposing Jewish minority rule over the Palestinian population, thereby making an analogy to Apartheid South Africa undeniably apt.

Bibi's predecessors realized this well. During his tenure, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert commented that failure to create a Palestinian state would force Israel to "face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights, and as soon as that happens, the state of Israel is finished." Additionally, former Prime Minister and current Defense Minister, Ehud Barak, commented after leaving the prime minister’s post: “If, and as long as between the Jordan and the sea, there is only one political entity, named Israel, it will end up being either non-Jewish or non-democratic... If the Palestinians vote in elections, it is a binational state, and if they don't, it is an apartheid state.”

Palestinian statehood blocked, equality struggle ahead - The Hill's Congress Blog
Palestinians don't like it, they can leave the Jews country.
 
Absent Palestinian sovereignty, Israel is imposing Jewish minority rule over the Palestinian population, thereby making an analogy to Apartheid South Africa undeniably apt.

Jews have "imposed" sovereignty over Israel since King David's time 3000 years ago. Your so-called Palestinians are illegal aliens from Arabia and elsewhere in the Middle East. For this reason, they never claimed a state of their own since the beginning of time.

Can you provide an archaeological record of any "Palestinian " civilization in Israel? No, I didn't think so. They are a fiction. You lie.

Former PLO Leader Zuheir Mohsen...
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuheir_Mohsen

Shaykh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi, Italian Muslim Assembly...
I believe that "Palestinian identity" is something completely artificial: it was forged as a propagandistic tool against Israel. The strange fact is that, at least here in Europe, I have never heard an Arab from the Land of Israel ("Palestine") say: "I am Palestinian."

Please remember that the so-called hero of "Palestinian independence," the pro-Nazi Grand Mufti of British Mandate Palestine, Haj Amin al-Husseini, never claimed that "Palestinians" are to be an independent people: all of his official declarations state that "Palestine must be recognized as a integral part of Syria."

ISRAEL SHOULD DECLARE OSLO NULL AND VOID (Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi August, 1998

Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis...
The adjective Palestinian is comparatively new. This, I need hardly remind you, is a region of ancient civilization and of deep-rooted and often complex identitites. But, Palestine was not one of them. People might identify themselves for various purposes, by religion, by descent, or by allegiance to a particular state or ruler, or, sometimes, locality. But, when they did it locally it was generally either the city and the immediate district or the larger province, so they would have been Jerusalemites or Jaffaites or Syrians, identifying province of Syria

The constitution or the formation of a political entity called Palestine which eventually gave rise to a nationality called Palestinian were lasting innovations of the British Mandate [1948]

Guy Milliere, Eminent Professor of History and Political Science, Sorbonne, Paris
No one had heard of a Palestinian people before the mid-1960s. They did not exist. Israel under the British Mandate until Israel' s Independence in 1948 was called Palestine. All Jews who were born there until i948 had the word « Palestine » stamped on their passports. The current Palestinians are those Arabs who, for a variety of reasons, decided to leave the land during the 1947 War of Independence, when five countries – Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq – attacked the 600,000 people in the fledgling state of Israel the day after its birth, hoping to kill it in the crib.
http://www.dreuz.info/2011/08/the-war-against-israel-goes-on-by-guy-milliere/

Pulitzer Prize-Winning Writer Charles Krauthammer...
Israel is the very embodiment of Jewish continuity: It is the only nation on earth that inhabits the same land, bears the same name, speaks the same language, and worships the same God that it did 3,000 years ago. You dig the soil and you find pottery from Davidic times, coins from Bar Kokhba, and 2,000-year-old scrolls written in a script remarkably like the one that today advertises ice cream at the corner candy store.

Tel Dan Stele Verifying King David Dynasty 3000 years ago
The Tel Dan Stela and the Kings of Aram and Israel

Jewish Bar Kokhba Coins Minted 2000 Years Ago...
Bar Kochba Revolt coinage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Judaea Capta Coins Minted By Romans against Jews 2000 years ago
Judaea Capta coinage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jewish Dead Sea Scrolls 2000 years old.
Dead Sea Scrolls - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yale University Press: The Archaeology of Ancient Israel
In this lavishly illustrated book some of Israel's foremost archaeologists present a thorough, up-to-date, and readily accessible survey of early life in the land of the Bible, from the Neolithic era (eighth millennium B.C.E.) to the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the First Temple in 586 B.C.E. It will be a delightful and informative resource for anyone who has ever wanted to know more about the religious, scientific, or historical background of the region.
The Archaeology of Ancient Israel - Ben-Tor, Amnon; Greenberg, R. - Yale University Press
 
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Your so-called Palestinians are illegal aliens from Arabia and elsewhere in the Middle East.

Aren't the Jews squatters out of Egypt?
 
The Romans created Palestina, so, isn't Palestine owned by Italy? Palestinians love Italian wine and some nice prosciutto allahu akbar
 
Absent Palestinian sovereignty, Israel is imposing Jewish minority rule over the Palestinian population, thereby making an analogy to Apartheid South Africa undeniably apt.
Palistanians are just like a bad wife, which packs and announces she's leaving, but upon discovering a happy hubby, returns and throws a hysterical tantrum.
Bibi's predecessors realized this well. During his tenure, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert commented that failure to create a Palestinian state would force Israel to "face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights, and as soon as that happens, the state of Israel is finished." Additionally, former Prime Minister and current Defense Minister, Ehud Barak, commented after leaving the prime minister’s post: “If, and as long as between the Jordan and the sea, there is only one political entity, named Israel, it will end up being either non-Jewish or non-democratic... If the Palestinians vote in elections, it is a binational state, and if they don't, it is an apartheid state.”
And since both assholes, Olmert and Barak, did offer palistanians a state and the latter did exhibit a remarkable lack of interest in having it, we may happily dismiss that as drivel, because palistanian raison d'etre is about pestering jews only.
 
Since the Fakestinians make the absurd claimi to have existed since the beginning of time, why is that every other ancient Near East and Mediterranean civilization claimed their countries...EXCEPT, the Fakestinians, from the Jews to the Egyptians to the Sumerians to the Hittites to the Canaanites to the Assyrians to the Babylonians to the Persians to the Greeks to the Romans ?

Billions of years seems like sufficient time for the Fakestinians to have created a state, no?
 
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Let's quit all military and financial support to the Palestinians, the Israeli's, and every other Middle Eastern country. Let them fight it out and we will deal with the winner. If the Israeli's are Gods chosen people and he thinks Israel should be a state and not the palestinians then Israel should win this war. The bible has many accounts of God delivering victory to the Israeli's when they should have lost. This sounds like a lopsided war being that Israel has Gods support, so it shouldn't take too long. Surely, this should be acceptable to every Israeli and their supporters.

But what would it mean if they loose? Hmmmmm:confused:
 
Let's quit all military and financial support to the Palestinians, the Israeli's, and every other Middle Eastern country. Let them fight it out and we will deal with the winner. If the Israeli's are Gods chosen people and he thinks Israel should be a state and not the palestinians then Israel should win this war. The bible has many accounts of God delivering victory to the Israeli's when they should have lost. This sounds like a lopsided war being that Israel has Gods support, so it shouldn't take too long. Surely, this should be acceptable to every Israeli and their supporters.

But what would it mean if they loose? Hmmmmm:confused:

How are you able to navigate the internet since Google and Yahoo have important R&D centers in Israel?

Also, how can you even operate your computer since most of Microsoft's software is designed in Israel and Intel's Pentium and Centrino microprocessors that operate 90% of the world's computers were designed in Israel? Most anti-virus software and computer firewalls were invented in Israel. Flash memory was invented in Israel. Instant messaging, invented in Israel

Oh, and your Apple iPad, iPhone and iPod? Their solid state memories were designed in Israel.

And, much of the technology for the cell phone was designed by Motorola in Israel

Life must be very difficult for you, no?
 
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Let's quit all military and financial support to the Palestinians, the Israeli's, and every other Middle Eastern country. Let them fight it out and we will deal with the winner. If the Israeli's are Gods chosen people and he thinks Israel should be a state and not the palestinians then Israel should win this war. The bible has many accounts of God delivering victory to the Israeli's when they should have lost. This sounds like a lopsided war being that Israel has Gods support, so it shouldn't take too long. Surely, this should be acceptable to every Israeli and their supporters.

But what would it mean if they loose? Hmmmmm:confused:

How are you able to navigate the internet since Google and Yahoo have important R&D centers in Israel?

Also, how can you even operate your computer since most of Microsoft's software is designed in Israel and Intel's Pentium and Centrino microprocessors that operate 90% of the world's computers were designed in Israel? Most anti-virus software and computer firewalls were invented in Israel. Flash memory was invented in Israel. Instant messaging, invented in Israel

Oh, and your Apple iPad, iPhone and iPod? Their solid state memories were designed in Israel.

Life must be very difficult for you, no?

Are you saying that none of those things cacn be made anywhere else? Also, what does that have to do with letting them fight it out and dealing with the winner? Do you have problems with reading or comprehension of what you read?
 
Let's quit all military and financial support to the Palestinians, the Israeli's, and every other Middle Eastern country. Let them fight it out and we will deal with the winner. If the Israeli's are Gods chosen people and he thinks Israel should be a state and not the palestinians then Israel should win this war. The bible has many accounts of God delivering victory to the Israeli's when they should have lost. This sounds like a lopsided war being that Israel has Gods support, so it shouldn't take too long. Surely, this should be acceptable to every Israeli and their supporters.

But what would it mean if they loose? Hmmmmm:confused:

How are you able to navigate the internet since Google and Yahoo have important R&D centers in Israel?

Also, how can you even operate your computer since most of Microsoft's software is designed in Israel and Intel's Pentium and Centrino microprocessors that operate 90% of the world's computers were designed in Israel? Most anti-virus software and computer firewalls were invented in Israel. Flash memory was invented in Israel. Instant messaging, invented in Israel

Oh, and your Apple iPad, iPhone and iPod? Their solid state memories were designed in Israel.

Life must be very difficult for you, no?

Are you saying that none of those things cacn be made anywhere else? Also, what does that have to do with letting them fight it out and dealing with the winner? Do you have problems with reading or comprehension of what you read?

Bill Gates...
Israel is by many measures the country, relative to its population, that's done the most to contribute to the technology revolution
Israel Innovation - YouTube
 
Let's quit all military and financial support to the Palestinians, the Israeli's, and every other Middle Eastern country. Let them fight it out and we will deal with the winner. If the Israeli's are Gods chosen people and he thinks Israel should be a state and not the palestinians then Israel should win this war. The bible has many accounts of God delivering victory to the Israeli's when they should have lost. This sounds like a lopsided war being that Israel has Gods support, so it shouldn't take too long. Surely, this should be acceptable to every Israeli and their supporters.

But what would it mean if they loose? Hmmmmm:confused:

How are you able to navigate the internet since Google and Yahoo have important R&D centers in Israel?

Also, how can you even operate your computer since most of Microsoft's software is designed in Israel and Intel's Pentium and Centrino microprocessors that operate 90% of the world's computers were designed in Israel? Most anti-virus software and computer firewalls were invented in Israel. Flash memory was invented in Israel. Instant messaging, invented in Israel

Oh, and your Apple iPad, iPhone and iPod? Their solid state memories were designed in Israel.

Life must be very difficult for you, no?

Are you saying that none of those things cacn be made anywhere else? Also, what does that have to do with letting them fight it out and dealing with the winner? Do you have problems with reading or comprehension of what you read?

Wall Street Journal http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...271802474.html
There are more new innovative ideas coming out of Israel than there are out in Silicon Valley right now. And it doesn't slow during economic downturns." The authors of "Start-Up Nation," Dan Senor and Saul Singer, are quoting an executive at British Telecom, but they could just as easily be quoting an executive at Intel, which last year opened a $3.5 billion factory in Kiryat Gat, an hour south of Tel Aviv, to make sophisticated 45-nanometer chips; or Warren Buffett, who in 2006 paid $4 billion for four-fifths of an Israeli firm that makes high-tech cutting tools for cars and planes; or John Chambers, Cisco's chief executive, who has bought nine Israeli start-ups; or Steve Ballmer, who calls Microsoft "as much an Israeli company as an American company" because of the importance of its Israeli technologists. "Google, Cisco, Microsoft, Intel, eBay . . . ," says one of eBay's executives. "The best-kept secret is that we all live and die by the work of our Israeli teams."


Israel is the world's techno-nation. Civilian research-and-development expenditures run 4.5% of the gross domestic product—half-again the level of the U.S., Germany or South Korea—and venture-capital investment per capita is 2½ times that of the U.S. and six times that of the United Kingdom. Even in absolute terms, Israel has only the U.S.—with more than 40 times the population—as a challenger.
Israel—a country of just 7.1 million people—attracted close to $2 billion in venture capital in 2008, as much as flowed to the U.K.'s 61 million citizens or the 145 million people living in Germany and France combined." At the start of 2009, some 63 Israeli companies were listed on the Nasdaq, more than those of any other foreign country. Among the Israeli firms: Teva Pharmaceuticals, the world's largest generic drug maker, with a market cap of $48 billion; and Check Point Software Technologies, with a market cap of $7 billion.
 
How are you able to navigate the internet since Google and Yahoo have important R&D centers in Israel?

Also, how can you even operate your computer since most of Microsoft's software is designed in Israel and Intel's Pentium and Centrino microprocessors that operate 90% of the world's computers were designed in Israel? Most anti-virus software and computer firewalls were invented in Israel. Flash memory was invented in Israel. Instant messaging, invented in Israel

Oh, and your Apple iPad, iPhone and iPod? Their solid state memories were designed in Israel.

Life must be very difficult for you, no?

Are you saying that none of those things cacn be made anywhere else? Also, what does that have to do with letting them fight it out and dealing with the winner? Do you have problems with reading or comprehension of what you read?

Bill Gates...
Israel is by many measures the country, relative to its population, that's done the most to contribute to the technology revolution
Israel Innovation - YouTube

You do have problems with reading comprehension.:(
I'll see if I can find you some help. Wait a minute...I get it...you have no logical arguement to counter mine so you are trying to redirect the conversation. Sneeky, but transparent. Do you want to try again?
 
Are you saying that none of those things cacn be made anywhere else? Also, what does that have to do with letting them fight it out and dealing with the winner? Do you have problems with reading or comprehension of what you read?

Bill Gates...
Israel is by many measures the country, relative to its population, that's done the most to contribute to the technology revolution
Israel Innovation - YouTube

You do have problems with reading comprehension.:(
I'll see if I can find you some help. Wait a minute...I get it...you have no logical arguement to counter mine so you are trying to redirect the conversation. Sneeky, but transparent. Do you want to try again?

Most teens have acquired basic reading comprehension skills but not you?

Re-posted: Maybe, if you move your lips while reading it will help.

Wall Street Journal...
There are more new innovative ideas coming out of Israel than there are out in Silicon Valley right now. And it doesn't slow during economic downturns." The authors of "Start-Up Nation," Dan Senor and Saul Singer, are quoting an executive at British Telecom, but they could just as easily be quoting an executive at Intel, which last year opened a $3.5 billion factory in Kiryat Gat, an hour south of Tel Aviv, to make sophisticated 45-nanometer chips; or Warren Buffett, who in 2006 paid $4 billion for four-fifths of an Israeli firm that makes high-tech cutting tools for cars and planes; or John Chambers, Cisco's chief executive, who has bought nine Israeli start-ups; or Steve Ballmer, who calls Microsoft "as much an Israeli company as an American company" because of the importance of its Israeli technologists. "Google, Cisco, Microsoft, Intel, eBay . . . ," says one of eBay's executives. "The best-kept secret is that we all live and die by the work of our Israeli teams."
 

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