"Palestinian" PM Making It Crystal Clear

Discussion in 'Israel and Palestine' started by Annie, Jan 15, 2007.

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    Kinda hard to blame the joos for this:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070115/ts_nm/palestinians_hamas_dc

     
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    Pretty cut-n-dried. Hamas is a terrorist organization. The Arabs of Palestine voted this known terrorist organization into power as their government.

    I guess treating Palestine as a terror-state would be out of the question?:rolleyes:
     
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    Any method used to determine if a government of group are 'terrorists' should be applied evenly to all. I'm interested to hear any criteria that leaves the US, Russia, Britain, Israel off the list.

    Threatening Nuclear action against another nation is also terrorism - even if that other nation is hated Iran.
     
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    Terrorists are people who blow up innocent men, woman and children on purpose. Do Americans, Russians, Brits and Israelis go around strapping exploves to their chests and blowing themselves up when they are in a group of women and children? Do we embrace these ideas and call such pepole martyrs?
     
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    Innocent Iraqis and Afghans and Nicarauguans count too, right?

    No we don't use explosives strapped to our chests, correct. We drop cluster bombs, white phosphorous, fire missiles, deprive medical aid,and other far more lethal tools. For an obvious example look at the peace loving Iraeli body count against the hostile leanese or palestinian one... about 10 arabs for every jew... we use our advanced technology, that doesn't excuse the brutality.
    And yes, we do embrace these ideas - just listen to how we discuss conflict.
    We are defending, liberating, protecting while we destroy, maim,etc. Hypocrisy AND lethal force. If we cared about law and democracy, we wouldn't have murdered so many innocent non-combatants while we were supposedly protecting peace.
     
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    It never ceases to amaze me how some folks can make this incredibly moral distinction between killing people with bombs in cars or strapped to bodies versus dropping ordinance from an aircraft in a violent display designed to "shock and awe"... Did we really think that we were going to shock and awe the residents of a densely populated city like baghdad by dropping tons of ordinance from the sky but not actually KILL anyone?


    Regarding the opening thread in this post.... I think that Hamas was able to win the election in the palestinian territories, not by stressing their terrorist inclinations, but by doing good "ward heeler" work - by promising improvements to infrastructure and schools.... but regardless, the palestinian people will need to move away from that hard-line organization if they wish to be included in any sort of meaningful dialog.
     
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    What is the difference in about 50 pounds of C-4 strapped to a person or 1,000 pounds of nitrogen and diesel fuel loaded in a car or truck using a wireless detonator or just a pushbutton switch to go high order in the middle of a market at its busiest time of the day? And dropping a bunker buster 2,000 pound laser guided munitions on a specific target? Well for one it is the agenda of terrorist is to use fear. Our ordnance was used to kill Saddams family and to disrupt his government and to rid Afghanistan of Taliban and osama and it worked very well. Now when a government builds homes next to high level targets that is called human shields those homes were flattened and innocent folks lost life.
    So I don't agree with this pro-middle eastern defense that they all are innocent folks just living life and never hurt anyone. And if you have facts to prove us all wrong link us to the truth.
     
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    and you think that delivering "shock and awe" on the densely populated urban center of Baghdad wasn't meant to scare anyone or kill anyone?
     
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    oh really? How can you possibly say that? You don't have a CLUE where Osama is and the Taliban are in resurgence.
     
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    That is because our politicians caved into pressure of the liberal front wouldn't allow the military to do it's job.
    who side are you on anyway?
    If you live in the US and are willing to except the risk of terrorism then more power to ya, but I don't except that kind of risk. Long before the CIA or any other organzation went into the middle east there goals were set to destroy the west.
     

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