Palestinian Mother Kills Four in Bombing

Discussion in 'Israel and Palestine' started by jimnyc, Jan 14, 2004.

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    Interesting that you all you have posted dates back over a half a century with out a link to back it up..facts will do ...not opinion and guesses..
     
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    My fault, sorry. Here it is:

    members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/ jewish-terrorism.htm

    My point was that they shouldn't complain about terrorist activity when they themselves used the same tactics.
     
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    point taken...but dont you think that the world..as a whole, is, or should be past such things....just my thoughts...
     
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    At least they are smart enough not to blow themselves up too !
     
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    What it should be and what it is in reality are two very diferent things. I have no problems with two groups of people fighting one another but I do think they should restrict the combat to their armed forces and NOT harm civilians. Of course when one side is so numerically/materialisticly inferior to the other, other means must be taken I suppose.
     
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    why cant these two groups just sit the fuck down at a table and hash out a treaty of some sort and then go from there.... tit for tat is playground stuff except we are talking peoples lives instead of playballs...war is easy..peace is difficult...thats wrong!!!!
     
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    It's probably difficult to let by-gones be by-gones when the Israelis have pulled stunts like this....

    On 6 June 1982, the Israeli army invaded Lebanon in what it described as 'retaliation' for the attempted assassination of Israeli Ambassador Argov in London on 4 June. The invasion, soon dubbed "Operation Peace for Galilee," progressed rapidly. By 18 June 1982, Israel had surrounded the Palestine Liberation Organisation's (PLO) armed forces in the western part of the Lebanese capital. A cease-fire, mediated by United States Envoy Philip Habib, resulted in the PLO evacuation of Beirut on 1 September 1982.

    On 11 September 1982, Israeli Defence Minister Ariel Sharon, the architect of the invasion, announced that "2,000 terrorists" had remained inside the Palestinian refugee camps around Beirut. On Wednesday 15 September, the day after the assassination of Israeli-allied Phalangist militia leader and Lebanese President-elect Bashir Gemayel, the Israeli army occupied West Beirut, "encircling and sealing" the camps of Sabra and Shatila, which were inhabited by Lebanese and Palestinian civilians. By mid-day on 15 September 1982, the refugee camps were entirely surrounded by Israeli tanks and soldiers, who installed checkpoints at strategic locations and crossroads around the camps in order to monitor the entry or exit of any person. During the late afternoon and evening of that day, the camps were shelled.

    Around mid-day on Thursday 16 September 1982, a unit of approximately 150 Israeli-allied Phalangists entered the first camp. For the next 40 hours members of the Phalangist militia raped, killed, and injured a large number of unarmed civilians, mostly children, women and elderly people inside the encircled and sealed camps. The estimate of victims varies between 700 (the official Israeli figure) to 3,500. The victims and survivors of the massacres have never been deemed entitled to a formal investigation of the tragedy, since Israel's Kahan Commission did not have a judicial mandate and was not backed up by legal force.

    http://www.indictsharon.net/massacres.shtml

    I think I'd want a little payback if an invading army did that to my countrymen.
     

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