Palestinian baby girl paralyzed in Israeli shooting

[JStone]

The native Jews of Palestine were opposed to the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine.

John F. Kennedy...

When the first Zionist conference met in 1897, Palestine was a neglected wasteland... I went to Palestine in 1939 and I saw there an unhappy land...For century after century, Romans, Turks, Christians, Moslems, Pagans, British – all had conquered the Holy Land – but none could make it prosper. In the words of Israel Zangwill: “The land without a people waited for the people without a land.” The realm where once milk and honey flowed, and civilization flourished, was in 1939 a barren realm – barren of hope and cheer and progress as well as crops and industries – a gloomy picture for a young man paying his first visit from the United States. There, the neglect and ruin left by centuries of Ottoman [Muslim] misrule were slowly being transformed by miracles of [Jewish] labor and sacrifice. But Palestine was still a land of promise in 1939, rather than a land of fulfillment.

I returned in 1951...this time as a Member of the Congress of the United States... to see the grandeur of Israel... The transformation which had taken place could not have been more complete. For between the time of my visit in 1939 and my visit in 1951, a nation had been reborn – a desert had been reclaimed – and a national integrity had been redeemed, after 2,000 years of seemingly endless waiting. Zion had at least been restoredThe barren land I had seen in 1939 had become the vital nation of 1951.

I left with the conviction that the United Nations may have conferred on Israel the credentials of nationhood; but its own idealism and courage, its own sacrifice and generosity, had earned the credentials of immortality.

For Israel was not created in order to disappear - Israel will endure and flourish. It is the child of hope and the home of the brave. It can neither be broken by adversity nor demoralized by success. It carries the shield of democracy and it honors the sword of freedom; and no area of the world has ever had an overabundance of democracy and freedom.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel violated the rights of the native Palestinian Jews.

 

[JStone]

Israel violated the rights of the native Palestinian Jews.

Call a cop.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel violated the rights of the native Palestinian Jews.

Call a cop.

Are you saying that it is OK to screw Jews?

 

[JStone]

Israel violated the rights of the native Palestinian Jews.

Call a cop.

Are you saying that it is OK to screw Jews?

Sir Martin Gilbert...

Jerusalem became the capital of the first Jewish kingdom in 1004 BC, over 3000 years ago. With the brief exception of the Crusader period, no other non-Jewish ruling power of Jerusalem made the city a capital but it was consistently a capital for the Jews. Driven into partial exile by Nebuchadnezzar in 586 BC, the Jews returned fifty years later and rebuilt Jerusalem as their capital. It was their capital, too, under the Maccabees. The unity of the city achieved in 1967, then, was more than a quirk of military geography. It was the fulfillment of unbroken historical longings.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Does that make it OK to screw the local Jews?

 

[destroythedome]

Another Jenin massacre???


On 1 August 2002 a UN Report showed that the Israeli figures were right; it said that 52 Palestinians had been killed in Jenin, the majority was proven as gunmen, and former Palestinian reports about 500 civilians killed - were not true. **

(**The Report of the Secretary-General prepared pursuant to General Assembly resolution ES-10/10 - 2002 [ Report of the Secretary-General on Jenin Paragraph 56] says

" Fifty-two Palestinian deaths had been confirmed by the hospital in Jenin by the end of May 2002. IDF also place the death toll at approximately 52. A senior Palestinian Authority official alleged in mid-April that some 500 were killed, a figure that has not been substantiated in the light of the evidence that has emerged." [unquote] )
BBC's "Jenin?massacre" that never was

"Only" 52 people.

Well then, that is just fine!

no numb nuts; 52 ( TERRORISTS ) And that is fine for terrorists give up any right to be to be refered to as people. They are animals and nothing more!

 

[P F Tinmore]

Another Jenin massacre???


On 1 August 2002 a UN Report showed that the Israeli figures were right; it said that 52 Palestinians had been killed in Jenin, the majority was proven as gunmen, and former Palestinian reports about 500 civilians killed - were not true. **

(**The Report of the Secretary-General prepared pursuant to General Assembly resolution ES-10/10 - 2002 [ Report of the Secretary-General on Jenin Paragraph 56] says

"Only" 52 people.

Well then, that is just fine!

no numb nuts; 52 ( TERRORISTS ) And that is fine for terrorists give up any right to be to be refered to as people. They are animals and nothing more!

Gheesh, More phony war on terror crap.

 

[destroythedome]

no numb nuts; 52 ( TERRORISTS ) And that is fine for terrorists give up any right to be to be refered to as people. They are animals and nothing more!

Gheesh, More phony war on terror crap.

Whats the matter? The truth hurts huh?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Gheesh, More phony war on terror crap.

Whats the matter? The truth hurts huh?

No, the so called war on terror is merely political.

The UN designates Hamas as a resistance organization not terrorists. Hamas does not fit the description of international terrorists. That is a political name calling thing.

 

[JStone]

Does that make it OK to screw the local Jews?

Historian Sir Martin Gilbert...

Jerusalem became the capital of the first Jewish kingdom in 1004 BC, over 3000 years ago. With the brief exception of the Crusader period, no other non-Jewish ruling power of Jerusalem made the city a capital but it was consistently a capital for the Jews. Driven into partial exile by Nebuchadnezzar in 586 BC, the Jews returned fifty years later and rebuilt Jerusalem as their capital. It was their capital, too, under the Maccabees. The unity of the city achieved in 1967, then, was more than a quirk of military geography. It was the fulfillment of unbroken historical longings.

 

[destroythedome]

Whats the matter? The truth hurts huh?

No, the so called war on terror is merely political.

The UN designates Hamas as a resistance organization not terrorists. Hamas does not fit the description of international terrorists. That is a political name calling thing.

The u.n. can designate hamas as a girl scout troup. It will never change the fact its a terrorist organization. If walks like a duck and quacks like a duck its a duck. hamas commits terrorist acts, praises and supports terrorists, so therefore its a terrorists organization. Tinmore acts like a moron, talks like a moron.and that makes you what? (a genious) I think not.

 

[P F Tinmore]

No, the so called war on terror is merely political.

The UN designates Hamas as a resistance organization not terrorists. Hamas does not fit the description of international terrorists. That is a political name calling thing.

The u.n. can designate hamas as a girl scout troup. It will never change the fact its a terrorist organization. If walks like a duck and quacks like a duck its a duck. hamas commits terrorist acts, praises and supports terrorists, so therefore its a terrorists organization. Tinmore acts like a moron, talks like a moron.and that makes you what? (a genious) I think not.

Hamas does not operate outside its own borders and only attacks people who occupy Palestine. That is not terrorism.

 

[destroythedome]

The u.n. can designate hamas as a girl scout troup. It will never change the fact its a terrorist organization. If walks like a duck and quacks like a duck its a duck. hamas commits terrorist acts, praises and supports terrorists, so therefore its a terrorists organization. Tinmore acts like a moron, talks like a moron.and that makes you what? (a genious) I think not.

Hamas does not operate outside its own borders and only attacks people who occupy Palestine. That is not terrorism.

sending rockets into civillian populations, capturing and holding a solider without adhereing to the geneva rules, and encouraging children to be suicide bombers is terrorism nomatter what your tinny brain calls it. besides hamas has no lands or borders.

 

[destroythedome]

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The UN designates Hamas as a resistance organization not terrorists. Hamas does not fit the description of international terrorists. That is a political name calling thing.

How can a so called resistance organization say they own territory?

 

[JStone]

The u.n. can designate hamas as a girl scout troup. It will never change the fact its a terrorist organization. If walks like a duck and quacks like a duck its a duck. hamas commits terrorist acts, praises and supports terrorists, so therefore its a terrorists organization. Tinmore acts like a moron, talks like a moron.and that makes you what? (a genious) I think not.

Hamas does not operate outside its own borders and only attacks people who occupy Palestine. That is not terrorism.

Er, "Palestine" is a made-up word invented by the Romans, from Italy, who occupied Israel 2000 years ago who renamed Israel "Syria Palestina" to erase the 1000 year Jewish identity with the land.

Is Hamas Italian, dummy?

University of Southern California History

Rome conquered Jerusalem in 70 A.D. ending the national independence gained during the Jewish War (66-70 A.D.). Despite being under Roman control, much of the land in Judea was still in Jewish hands; the Jews were neither exiled nor enslaved. Seventy years after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem, the Jews in Judea began a war against the Roman Empire (4a). The war lasted for three years from late summer A.D. 132 through late autumn A.D. 135. The war was led by Shim’on ben (or Bar) Kosiba, who became known as “Bar Kokhba” or “Son of the Star.”

The emperor Hadrian found himself forced to deal with this serious Jewish threat to the Roman Empire. His Pax Romana was threatened by the Jewish War. Hadrian sent armies to Judea, but did not find victory against Bar Kokhba’s guerillas. The turning point in the war came when Hadrian called in one of his best generals, Julius Severus, to fight exclusively on the Jewish front. Severus slowly closed in around Bar Kokhba—and without outside help from the Jewish Diaspora which Bar Kokhba was counting on—was able to defeat the Jewish revolt.

As punishment, the Jews were driven from Jerusalem and the gentiles moved in. The city was called Aelia Capitolina and was a pagan city—built on the ruins of Jerusalem. The province was renamed from Judea to Syria-Palaestina to further remove the Jews from their land. Practicing Judaism was outlawed and scholars who supported to rebellion were executed (5b). Soon after the defeat of Bar Kokhba, Hadrian died and Antoninus Pius ascended the throne. Jews slowly regained their cultural and religious freedoms back

 

[P F Tinmore]

Hamas does not operate outside its own borders and only attacks people who occupy Palestine. That is not terrorism.

sending rockets into civillian populations, capturing and holding a solider without adhereing to the geneva rules, and encouraging children to be suicide bombers is terrorism nomatter what your tinny brain calls it. besides hamas has no lands or borders.

"Civilian" is not the definitive term to determine terrorism. Palestine has no military. All Palestinians are civilians. Some Palestinians are "protected persons" and some are not. Israel settlers are not protected persons.

Palestine has had international borders since 1922. Israel has no borders.

 

[JStone]

sending rockets into civillian populations, capturing and holding a solider without adhereing to the geneva rules, and encouraging children to be suicide bombers is terrorism nomatter what your tinny brain calls it. besides hamas has no lands or borders.

"Civilian" is not the definitive term to determine terrorism. Palestine has no military. All Palestinians are civilians. Some Palestinians are "protected persons" and some are not. Israel settlers are not protected persons.

Palestine has had international borders since 1922. Israel has no borders.

Arab invaders should not be living in Israel.

Tashbih Sayyed, Muslim Pakistani scholar, journalist, author and former Editor in Chief of Our Times, Pakistan Today, and The Muslim World Today Global Politician - Israel’s Arab Citizens And The Jewish State

Blinded by their anti-Semitism, Arabs ignore the fact that neither are they an indigenous group nor is the Jewish nationhood a new phenomenon in Palestine; the Jewish nation was born during 40 years of wandering in the Sinai more than five thousand years ago and has remained connected with Palestine ever since. “Even after the destruction of the last Jewish commonwealth in the first century, the Jewish people maintained their own autonomous political and legal institutions: the Davidic dynasty was preserved in Baghdad until the thirteenth century through the rule of the Exilarch (Resh Galuta), while the return to Zion was incorporated into the most widely practiced Jewish traditions, including the end of the Yom Kippur service and the Passover Seder, as well as in everyday prayers. Thus, Jewish historic rights were kept alive in Jewish historical consciousness.

Palestinian Arabs, on the other hand, never had a separate identity. They always thought of themselves as Arabs rather than as Palestinians. It is a matter of record that the Arabs owe their presence in Palestine to the Ottomans who settled Muslim populations as a buffer against Bedouin attacks and Ibrahim Pasha, the Egyptian ruler who brought Egyptian colonists with his army in the 1830s. And during all those times when Arabs lived under the Ottoman rule, they never showed any desire for national independence. According to Bernard Lewis, “From the end of the Jewish state in antiquity to the beginning of British rule, the area now designated by the name Palestine was not a country and had no frontiers, only administrative boundaries; it was a group of provincial subdivisions, by no means always the same, within a larger entity.” Lewis notes, "There had been a steady movement of Jews to the Holy Land throughout the centuries." In 135 CE Jews took part in the Bar Kochba revolt against imperial Rome and even re-established their capital in Jerusalem. Defeated by the most brutal of the Roman legions under the command of the emperor Hadrian, Jews were forbidden to reside in Jerusalem for nearly five hundred years. Once a year on the ninth of the Hebrew month of Av, they were allowed to weep at the remains of their destroyed Temple at a spot that came to be called "the Wailing Wall." In the meantime, the Roman authorities renamed Judea as Palestina in order to obliterate the memory of Jewish nationhood.

A resolution adopted by the first Congress of the Muslim Christian Association which met in Jerusalem in February 1919 underlines the Arab understanding of the situation conclusively. It said, "We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds."

Jerusalem has always remained a Jewish majority – a symbol of Jewish yearning to be an independent nation as they thrived in communities in many of Palestine’s towns. “By 1864, a clear-cut Jewish majority emerged in Jerusalem - more than half a century before the arrival of the British Empire and the League of Nations Mandate. During the years that the Jewish presence in Eretz Israel was restored, a huge Arab population influx transpired as Arab immigrants sought to take advantage of higher wages and economic opportunities that resulted from Jewish settlement in the land. President Roosevelt concluded in 1939 that "Arab immigration into Palestine since 1921 has vastly exceeded the total Jewish immigration during the whole period."

The present Arab declaration challenging the Jewish character of Israel cannot be ignored because it is not just an expression of dissatisfaction by a minority about their socio-economic situation but a reminder that Islamist radicalism and fundamentalism has now decided to challenge openly the legitimacy of the Jewish state using Arab citizens of Israel as its proxy in Israel. It must not be forgotten that the Israeli Arabs are part and parcel of the same Global Jihad that has been murdering our gallant soldiers on the war fronts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[destroythedome]

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"Civilian" is not the definitive term to determine terrorism. Palestine has no military. All Palestinians are civilians. Some Palestinians are "protected persons" and some are not. Israel settlers are not protected persons.

Palestine has had international borders since 1922. Israel has no borders.

No for the last time terrorists are not civillians they are animals. And no person who aids or supports terrorists are protected.Law abideing civillians on both sides are protected.As for haveing no millitary I sure see alot of heavily armed men in gaza. Looks like a military to me. The only thing palestinians dont have is the balls to fight openly like men.

 

[JStone]

"Civilian" is not the definitive term to determine terrorism. Palestine has no military. All Palestinians are civilians. Some Palestinians are "protected persons" and some are not. Israel settlers are not protected persons.

Palestine has had international borders since 1922. Israel has no borders.

No for the last time terrorists are not civillians they are animals. And no person who aids or supports terrorists are protected.Law abideing civillians on both sides are protected.As for haveing no millitary I sure see alot of heavily armed men in gaza. Looks like a military to me. The only thing palestinians dont have is the balls to fight openly like men.

Tinhead's page says he should be ignored at all costs, so, dont waste too much oxygen on the freak