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YAAAAAAAWWWWWWNNNN .............You are a total Wanker
Sorry bout that,
1. Some govenor renamed Israel to *Palestine*, after the Jews were kicked out.
2. Romans or some losers.
3. Stupid Arabs Losers, have borrowed this term, and have staked claim to it, to be some fictitious peoples, in order to falsely stake claims to the land of Israel.
4. They have no claim, its bogus.
5. Maybe if they can find the Hitties, Sodomites, Cannites, and whatever *ites* that got thrown out by God, to bring the Jews in, then okay, lets hear their claims?
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
,keep pecking and scratching around you TURKEY,in the dirt.
I'm theliq ..ever living,ever faithful,ever sure.
HoHoHoHo LINK OK........BY THE VERY SAME BERNARD LEWIS (HO,HO,Ho) THE ASSASSINS by the Bernard you are all spouting as YOUR AUTHORITY(HO,HO,Ho I can't help myself) Copyright 1967 updated 2003 published by Weidenfeld and Nicolson...PAGE 130 ..................Ho,Ho,Ho.
Stoned and others like Horshair....theliq was born a winner...YOU ALL SCORED AN OWN GOALNO LINK Ha,Ha,Ha...SUPPOSITION WHAT COMPLETE IDIOTS YOU ARE.
I'm theliq..........How Ever Am I To Soar With Eagles When I Have To Deal With Turkeys Like These.............You Loose Now Take A Walk
What the fuck kind of gibber-talk is that, anyway???
Wouldn't it have been easier to say that you just don't know the answers to Jillian's questions?
O Jill O Jillianwhat was the capital of a palestinian state?
what was its form of government?
who were its trading partners?
what was it's primary means of acquiring wealth?
thanks for playing.
i note the silence from THE STONED AND JILLIAN POSSEE....of course we all do because dispite all their BOLLOCKS RHETORIC...THEY ARE NOW DEFEATED AND CONSIGNED TO THE US MESSAGE BOARD DUSTBIN
YAAAAAAAWWWWWWNNNN .............You are a total WankerSorry bout that,
1. Some govenor renamed Israel to *Palestine*, after the Jews were kicked out.
2. Romans or some losers.
3. Stupid Arabs Losers, have borrowed this term, and have staked claim to it, to be some fictitious peoples, in order to falsely stake claims to the land of Israel.
4. They have no claim, its bogus.
5. Maybe if they can find the Hitties, Sodomites, Cannites, and whatever *ites* that got thrown out by God, to bring the Jews in, then okay, lets hear their claims?
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
eoples who originated from the Aegean and Mediterranean Seas. [King] David fought Goliath the Philistine. Hadrian added the final insult to injury by renaming Jerusalem "Aelia Capitolina" after his family name Aelius.In response to increased Roman oppression, the Jewish people rose again in resistance, but, the rebels were forced into the single fortress of Bethar, south-west of Jerusalem. There they held out for two years.
With their destruction, the names Judea and Jerusalem were blotted from the Roman language. The country was renamed Palestina, and Aelia Capitolina rose as a Roman city on the ruins of Jerusalem.
again thank you for your inciteful comments here.
YAAAAAAAWWWWWWNNNN .............You are a total WankerSorry bout that,
1. Some govenor renamed Israel to *Palestine*, after the Jews were kicked out.
2. Romans or some losers.
3. Stupid Arabs Losers, have borrowed this term, and have staked claim to it, to be some fictitious peoples, in order to falsely stake claims to the land of Israel.
4. They have no claim, its bogus.
5. Maybe if they can find the Hitties, Sodomites, Cannites, and whatever *ites* that got thrown out by God, to bring the Jews in, then okay, lets hear their claims?
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
Absolutely correct.
Judea, from which "Jew" is derived, was renamed the Latin "Syria Palaestina" in the aftermath of the Hadrianic reprisals brought about by the Jewish Bar Kokhba rebellion against Roman oppression.
Palaestina was derived from the Philistines, ancient enemies of the Hebrews also known as the Sea
The Judaea Capta coins minted by the Romans verify the Jewish name Judah of the land prior to being renamed the Latin Palaestina.
Judaea Capta coinage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Through it all, Jews continued to refer to their country as Eretz Yisrael--Land of Israel.
Palestine does not appear in the Bible. Israel appears over 2000 times.
Biblical scholar and historian James Parkes...
In response to increased Roman oppression, the Jewish people rose again in resistance, but, the rebels were forced into the single fortress of Bethar, south-west of Jerusalem. There they held out for two years.
With their destruction, the names Judea and Jerusalem were blotted from the Roman language. The country was renamed Palestina, and Aelia Capitolina rose as a Roman city on the ruins of Jerusalem.
what was the capital of a palestinian state?
what was its form of government?
who were its trading partners?
what was it's primary means of acquiring wealth?
thanks for playing.
How many times is Palestine mentioned in the Bible: Zero times.
Israel is referenced 2000 times in the Bible
Sorry bout that,
1. Here is another aspect of this that shouldn't escape everybody.
2. Most if not all the arabs claim a link to Abraham, through Ishmael, who was son of Abraham from the slave women Hagar.
3. Abraham was the first Jew, who God cleared the land of Israel for him, to set up Gods and Abrahams heritage, which ofcourse Abraham did.
4. So the people run out of Israel at that time, which there were a people known as The Philistines, those people had no link to Abraham, so if the arabs who have squatted in Israel over the years after the Jews were dispersed, make a claim to be these people, then in fact they can not, seeing they are also claiming to be sons of Ishmael, and fathered by Abraham, through this nefarious affair between their mother Hagar and Abraham.
5. What actually happened to the Philistines?
6. They were absorbed within the clans of the arabs would be my guess, or rounded up and all killed by the same.
7. No need to thank me.
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
what was the capital of a palestinian state?
what was its form of government?
who were its trading partners?
what was it's primary means of acquiring wealth?
thanks for playing.
How many times is Palestine mentioned in the Bible: Zero times.
Israel is referenced 2000 times in the Bible
could that possibly be because the majority of the bible was written by jews? why go to all that trouble of writing a book unless you can slant it your way?
Once more, the Jews revolted against the Romans, this time under the leadership of a certain Bar Kokhba. The success of the rebels was short-lived , for, of course the Roman legions were ultimately victorious. All Jews were excluded from the province, whose name was changed from Judaea to Syria Palaestina.
How many times is Palestine mentioned in the Bible: Zero times.
Israel is referenced 2000 times in the Bible
could that possibly be because the majority of the bible was written by jews? why go to all that trouble of writing a book unless you can slant it your way?
The Christian Bible that mentions Israel 2000 times was written by Jews, dink?
The same Christian Bible that does not mention Palestine once?
I've already covered this Stoney,and so have you aboveEminent Historian Bernard Lewis...
The adjective Palestinian is comparatively new. This, I need hardly remind you, is a region of ancient civilization and of deep-rooted and often complex identitites. But, Palestine was not one of them. People might identify themselves for various purposes, by religion, by descent, or by allegiance to a particular state or ruler, or, sometimes, locality. But, when they did it locally it was generally either the city and the immediate district or the larger province, so they would have been Jerusalemites or Jaffaites or Syrians, identifying province of Syria
The constitution or the formation of a political entity called Palestine which eventually gave rise to a nationality called Palestinian were lasting innovations of the British Mandate [1948]
http://www.asmeascholars.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=6
Israel was established by the Jewish People 3000 years ago, verified by the archaeological record, where Jews have lived to today.
Pulitzer Prize-Winning Writer Charles Krauthammer...
Israel is the very embodiment of Jewish continuity: It is the only nation on earth that inhabits the same land, bears the same name, speaks the same language, and worships the same God that it did 3,000 years ago. You dig the soil and you find pottery from Davidic times, coins from Bar Kokhba, and 2,000-year-old scrolls written in a script remarkably like the one that today advertises ice cream at the corner candy store.
PBS: Civilization and the Jews
The interaction of Jewish history and Western civilization successively assumed different forms. In the Biblical and Ancient periods, Israel was an integral part of the Near Eastern and classical world, which gave birth to Western civilization. It shared the traditions of ancient Mesopotamia and the rest of that world with regard to it’s own beginning; it benefited from the decline of Egypt and the other great Near Eastern empires to emerge as a nation in it’s own right; it asserted it’s claim to the divinely promised Land of Israel...
PBS - Heritage
University of Chicago Oriental Institute---Empires in the Fertile Crescent: : Israel, Ancient Assyria, and AnatoliaVisitors will get a rare look at one of the most important geographic regions in the ancient Near East beginning January 29 with the opening of "Empires in the Fertile Crescent: Ancient Assyria, Anatolia and Israel," the newest galleries at the Museum of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago.
The galleries showcase artifacts that illustrate the power of these ancient civilizations, including sculptural representations of tributes demanded by kings of ancient Assyria, and some sources of continual fascination, such as a fragment of the Dead Sea Scrolls--one of the few examples in the United States.
"Visitors begin in Assyria, move across Anatolia and down the Mediterranean coast to the land of ancient Israel. The galleries also trace the conquests of the Assyrian empire across the Middle East and follow their trail to Israel."
The Israelites, who emerged as the dominant people of that region in about 975 B.C. are documented by many objects of daily life, a large stamp engraved with a biblical text and an ossuary (box for bones) inscribed in Hebrew.
Probably the most spectacular portion of the Megiddo gallery, however, is the Megiddo ivories. These exquisitely carved pieces of elephant tusks were inlays in furniture, and a particularly large piece was made into a game board.
Oriental Institute | Museum
Harvard Semitic Museum: The Houses of Ancient Israel
In archaeological terms The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine focuses on the Iron Age (1200-586 B.C.E.). Iron I (1200-1000 B.C.E.) represents the premonarchical period. Iron II (1000-586 B.C.E.) was the time of kings. Uniting the tribal coalitions of Israel and Judah in the tenth century B.C.E., David and Solomon ruled over an expanding realm. After Solomon's death (c. 930 B.C.E.) Israel and Judah separated into two kingdoms.
Israel was led at times by strong kings, Omri and Ahab in the ninth century B.C.E. and Jereboam II in the eighth. In the end, however, Israel was no match for expansionist Assyria. Samaria, the Israelite capital, fell to the Assyrians in 722 B.C.E.
The Houses of Ancient Israel § Semitic Museum
University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology: Canaan and Ancient Israel
The first major North American exhibition dedicated to the archaeology of ancient Israel and neighboring lands, "Canaan and Ancient Israel" features more than 350 rare artifacts from about 3,000 to 586 B.C.E., excavated by University of Pennsylvania Museum archaeologists in Israel,
Artcom Museums Tour: University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology, Philadelphia PA
Yale Law School Faculty Scholarship Series: Ancient Land Law in Israel, Mesopotamia, Egypt
This Article provides an overview of the land regimes that the peoples of Mesopotamia, Egypt, and Israel created by law and custom between 3000 B.C. and 500 B.C
A look at land regimes in the earliest periods of human history can illuminate debate over the extent to which human institutions can be expected to vary from time to time and place to place.
"Ancient Land Law: Mesopotamia, Egypt, Israel" by Robert C. Ellickson and Charles DiA. Thorland
Yale University Press: Education in Ancient Israel
In this groundbreaking new book, distinguished biblical scholar James L. Crenshaw investigates both the pragmatic hows and the philosophical whys of education in ancient Israel and its surroundings. Asking questions as basic as "Who were the teachers and students and from what segment of Israelite society did they come?" and "How did instructors interest young people in the things they had to say?" Crenshaw explores the institutions and practices of education in ancient Israel. The results are often surprising and more complicated than one would expect.
Education in Ancient Israel - Crenshaw, James L - Yale University Press
Yale University Press: The Archaeology of Ancient Israel
In this lavishly illustrated book some of Israel's foremost archaeologists present a thorough, up-to-date, and readily accessible survey of early life in the land of the Bible, from the Neolithic era (eighth millennium B.C.E.) to the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the First Temple in 586 B.C.E. It will be a delightful and informative resource for anyone who has ever wanted to know more about the religious, scientific, or historical background of the region.
The Archaeology of Ancient Israel - Ben-Tor, Amnon; Greenberg, R. - Yale University Press
Cambridge University Press: The World of Ancient Israel
The Bodies of God and the World of Ancient Israel - Academic and Professional Books - Cambridge University Press
Cambridge University Press: Wisdom in Ancient Israel
Wisdom in Ancient Israel - Academic and Professional Books - Cambridge University Press
PBS Nova...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvg2EZAEw5c]1/13 The Bible's Buried Secrets (NOVA PBS) - YouTube[/ame]In the banks of the Nile in southern Egypt in 1896, British archaeologisit Flinders Petrie unearthed one of the most important discoveries in biblical archaeology known as the Merneptah Stele. Merneptah's stele announces the entrance on the world stage of a People named Israel.
The Merneptah Stele is powerful evidence that a People called the Israelites are living in Canaan over 3000 years ago
Dr. Donald Redford, Egyptologist and archaeologist: The Merneptah Stele is priceless evidence for the presence of an ethnical group called Israel in Canaan.
it really is a fabulous place....and very calming and peaceful......and then you realise it must have been murder and mayhem in a past epochs.I've already covered this Stoney,and so have you aboveEminent Historian Bernard Lewis...
Professor Bernard Lewis, Chairman
Israel was established by the Jewish People 3000 years ago, verified by the archaeological record, where Jews have lived to today.
Pulitzer Prize-Winning Writer Charles Krauthammer...
PBS: Civilization and the Jews
University of Chicago Oriental Institute---Empires in the Fertile Crescent: : Israel, Ancient Assyria, and Anatolia
Harvard Semitic Museum: The Houses of Ancient Israel
University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology: Canaan and Ancient Israel
Yale Law School Faculty Scholarship Series: Ancient Land Law in Israel, Mesopotamia, Egypt
Yale University Press: Education in Ancient Israel
Yale University Press: The Archaeology of Ancient Israel
Cambridge University Press: The World of Ancient Israel
The Bodies of God and the World of Ancient Israel - Academic and Professional Books - Cambridge University Press
Cambridge University Press: Wisdom in Ancient Israel
Wisdom in Ancient Israel - Academic and Professional Books - Cambridge University Press
PBS Nova...
1/13 The Bible's Buried Secrets (NOVA PBS) - YouTube
Sorry bout that,
1. When I was there in 1993 it was nothing but a desert.
2. Really?
Wrote by thelig:
"Meggieddo Stoney is the most facinating place,built on a mountain top over looking a flat fertile plain as far as the eye can see."
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
The Jews are to blame for Jesus death. They pushed Pontious Pilot to crucify him. The palestinians have no historical or legal right to Israel, it is they that are invaders and occupying Israel.I'm sorry Stoney but Joinvilles account was written at the time 1249,the other thing is I have studied Ghengis Khan in great detail and he received much BAD press over the years,he was infact a brilliant Military Strategist,in his Capital Quaroran,he had complete freedom of speech and faith.....hence people from throughout the world including Jews and Christians lived and worked there moreover at one time the Crusaders requested his help against Saladin and the Sarecens but his emmesaries (he used Chinese subjects for all his administrative work throughout his vast empire,anyway they told the Templars that he couldn't help because certain elements of their force were cannibals!!!!!!!which proved to be true!!!!!!!!
Ghengis Khan only promoted by ability not by favour and the loyalty of his conquered subjects was profound,he conquered from China to close to Vienna in Europe.
Stoned by 1249 the Jews had been dispersed throughout the know world by then,many living as far away as Spain where there was a large community who lived freely under Muslim rule at the time,regrettably when the Christians under Phillip of Spain defeated the Muslims(who had by then created stupendous cities,and even the Christians at the time were so impressed they did not destroy or raise these cities to the ground,these towns and cities are still there for us to admire today,the Muslims had by this time built Universities and were the pinnicle of learning,it was here that Jews developed and grew,such was their mental capacity to lean and innovate etc,.)But when the Christians took over it was the usual anti-semetism and banishment,not only Spain but all over Europe and England.These Pograms were much like the Pograms in Russia in 1890's and 1900's.....where many Jewish families migrated to the US,England and countries like South Africa,Australia and New Zealand.The final disgraceful attack against the Jewish people was 30 years or so later under hitler and the nazis,the German people(most) and many others including Croatians and parts of the Catholic Church,who were partners in this attempt to wipe out Jews from the face of the earth.
Christians at these times blamed the Jews for the death of Christ.
Thankfully they failed,my only argument with you is that you are attempting to airbrush the Palestinians out of history which when you reflect on the nazis,thats exactly what they attempted to do and almost succeeded.The irony is that when hitler had finished with the Jews his next target was the Palestinians , he and the nazis believe they were related.
Palestinians have every right like the Jews have every right to their own homeland,samantics aside this is only the fair thing as most Jews will agree too...the problem with some ultra orthodox Jews is that they are moving the goal posts to ensure this will not happen,much like Hamas in their call to eliminate Jews both sides are the same....Idiots.
Stoned I know often you read passages of the Bible but I like to read of peoples utterings in or at real time when it was happening(witnesses if you like)not from a book where the writings are often centuries after the event.
steven..aka theliq
%%%%%AS FOR JILLIAN WHO KEEPS SENDING ME BORING MESSAGES....LIKE STONED AND OTHERS,YOU SHOULD GET OUT MORE AND START TO LIVE!!!!!!!Eminent Historian Bernard Lewis...
The adjective Palestinian is comparatively new. This, I need hardly remind you, is a region of ancient civilization and of deep-rooted and often complex identitites. But, Palestine was not one of them. People might identify themselves for various purposes, by religion, by descent, or by allegiance to a particular state or ruler, or, sometimes, locality. But, when they did it locally it was generally either the city and the immediate district or the larger province, so they would have been Jerusalemites or Jaffaites or Syrians, identifying province of Syria
The constitution or the formation of a political entity called Palestine which eventually gave rise to a nationality called Palestinian were lasting innovations of the British Mandate
Cambridge University Press
Encyclopedia of the Ottoman Empire...
Palestine did not exist in the geographical imagination of the Ottomans...[Before modern Israel], Jews referred to the territory as Eretz Yisrael, the land of Israel. Throughout the Ottoman period, pilgrims and clergy from both religious traditions visited what they considered the "Holy Land" following a route from the port of Jaffa to Jerusalem.
The adjective Palestinian is comparatively new. This, I need hardly remind you, is a region of ancient civilization and of deep-rooted and often complex identitites. But, Palestine was not one of them. People might identify themselves for various purposes, by religion, by descent, or by allegiance to a particular state or ruler, or, sometimes, locality. But, when they did it locally it was generally either the city and the immediate district or the larger province, so they would have been Jerusalemites or Jaffaites or Syrians, identifying province of Syria
The constitution or the formation of a political entity called Palestine which eventually gave rise to a nationality called Palestinian were lasting innovations of the British Mandate [1948]
The Palestine entity, formally established and defined by Britain, was formally abolished in 1948 with the termination of the British Mandate and Israeli statehood
For more than four decades, Bernard Lewis has been one of the most respected scholars and prolific writers on the history and politics of the Middle East. In this compilation of more than 50 journal articles and essays, he displays the full range of his eloquence, knowledge, and insight regarding this pivotal and volatile region."
Oxford University Press: Faith and Power:
No one had heard of a Palestinian people before the mid-1960s. They did not exist. Israel under the British Mandate until Israel' s Independence in 1948 was called Palestine. All Jews who were born there until i948 had the word « Palestine » stamped on their passports. The current Palestinians are those Arabs who, for a variety of reasons, decided to leave the land during the 1947 War of Independence, when five countries Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq attacked the 600,000 people in the fledgling state of Israel the day after its birth, hoping to kill it in the crib.
The War Against Israel Goes On- by Guy Millière | DRZZ.fr
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.
Zuheir Mohsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
How many times is Palestine mentioned in the Bible: Zero times.
Israel is referenced 2000 times in the Bible
could that possibly be because the majority of the bible was written by jews? why go to all that trouble of writing a book unless you can slant it your way?
The Christian Bible that mentions Israel 2000 times was written by Jews, dink?
The same Christian Bible that does not mention Palestine once?
