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    Okay. So let's break down what we do agree on.

    We agree that Turkey renounced the territory referred to as Palestine.

    We agree that through a complex development of the concept of self-determination in IL, the territory was set to become an independent nation, under temporary administration (but never sovereignty) of the UK under a Mandate system.

    We agree the borders of this territory were set prior to 1923 through standard practice of the time and exist, unchanged, up until today.

    We agree that the territory has not been divided through any lasting, permanent treaty or agreement.

    We agree the nationality of the people normally follows the changes in sovereignty.


    Yes?

    So what is the question? Who has sovereignty on that territory? And how did they obtain it? My claim is that Israel holds sovereignty. My claim is justified by the documents I submitted to you, as well as clear and simple facts.

    1. That the right of the Jewish people to a national homeland in that territory is an historical right to self-determination.

    2. That this right for the Jewish people has been supported by the international community for more than 100 years.

    3. That this right has been entrenched in international legal agreements and treaties which have not and can not be abrogated, except through Israel's consent.

    4. That the territory HAS borders, as inherited from previous agreements and treaties, in compliance with normative law, from previous sovereigns (or in this case, administrators).

    5. That those borders are confirmed through international treaties with surrounding States.

    6. That she has Declared her Independence in the normative way.

    7. That having fulfilled the requirements for sovereignty of government, population, territory and international relations, and having been accepted by the international community as a full member with all rights, obligations and privileges, acts on the world stage as an equal to all other State actors.

    8. That she exerts control over territory in the absence of any other sovereign.
     
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    My question and I never get answers.
     
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    Palestinian students stage a protest in Birzeit University in Ramallah in solidarity with the Palestinian detainee Samer al-Arabeed who is currently in a coma after being exposed to severe torture by Israeli interrogators.

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    And not a single was Jew murdered by Arabs in Hebron the following 4 years.
    Coincidence?

    :www_MyEmoticons_com__shush:
     
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    Oh the poor victim...
    Let's just practice that sad kitten face, right?

    And hope they don't find out your Jihadi filth bombed a 17 year girl to death.
     
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    I LITERALLY answered it in the post you quoted.
     
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    And may this horrific excuse for a human being always be condemned for his vile and inhumane act of terrorism. May he serve as a singular reminder of what every Jew, and what every human being, of whatever ethnicity, must resist becoming.
     
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