Palestine: the things you don’t hear about

[USAF 2023]

Why can’t you allow even one thread to say positive things about Palestinians without out trolling it? I count numerous pro-Israeli threads. Go wreck one of those instead,

Really?! Did you read the threads intended to say positive things about Israel? Did you police the trolling on those threads? Did you make sure it was only about positive things? Did you call them out on posts which didn't fit that positive thing trope? Did you call Team P out on trolling threads that are meant to be positive only?

Did you want to support objective standards here? Or what? There seems to be a double standard at play here.

Yes.

For example this thread: Your Favorite Things About Israel

A fun, light PLEASANT thread on cool Israeli stuff. IE..positive tropes that we have in fact moderated several times to cull out the trolling.

Now let me ask you. Why is it it so impossible to allow one thread like that for the Palestinians? Something besides hate, dead bodies, blah blah blah.

Why does Team Israel have to destroy and marginalize anything positive about Palestinians?

Double standards?

Why does Team Palestine have to destroy and marginalize anything positive about Israelis? What you accuse “ Team Israel” of doing I accuse the Pro Palestinian Team of doing

Double standards and a little hypocrisy?

 

[Coyote]

Why can’t you allow even one thread to say positive things about Palestinians without out trolling it? I count numerous pro-Israeli threads. Go wreck one of those instead,

Really?! Did you read the threads intended to say positive things about Israel? Did you police the trolling on those threads? Did you make sure it was only about positive things? Did you call them out on posts which didn't fit that positive thing trope? Did you call Team P out on trolling threads that are meant to be positive only?

Did you want to support objective standards here? Or what? There seems to be a double standard at play here.

Yes.

For example this thread: Your Favorite Things About Israel

A fun, light PLEASANT thread on cool Israeli stuff. IE..positive tropes that we have in fact moderated several times to cull out the trolling.

Now let me ask you. Why is it it so impossible to allow one thread like that for the Palestinians? Something besides hate, dead bodies, blah blah blah.

Why does Team Israel have to destroy and marginalize anything positive about Palestinians?

Double standards?

Why does Team Palestine have to destroy and marginalize anything positive about Israelis? What you accuse “ Team Israel” of doing I accuse the Pro Palestinian Team of doing

Double standards and a little hypocrisy?

Not at all. We have multiple times removed offensive off topic stuff from fun Israeli threads. In fact I quite enjoy the threads such as Things I Like About Israel and thought it would be nice to create something similar for Palestine, that didn't involve the usual crap and showed intetesting cultural things.

Why is this unacceptable to you?

 

[USAF 2023]

Why can’t you allow even one thread to say positive things about Palestinians without out trolling it? I count numerous pro-Israeli threads. Go wreck one of those instead,

Really?! Did you read the threads intended to say positive things about Israel? Did you police the trolling on those threads? Did you make sure it was only about positive things? Did you call them out on posts which didn't fit that positive thing trope? Did you call Team P out on trolling threads that are meant to be positive only?

Did you want to support objective standards here? Or what? There seems to be a double standard at play here.

Yes.

For example this thread: Your Favorite Things About Israel

A fun, light PLEASANT thread on cool Israeli stuff. IE..positive tropes that we have in fact moderated several times to cull out the trolling.

Now let me ask you. Why is it it so impossible to allow one thread like that for the Palestinians? Something besides hate, dead bodies, blah blah blah.

Why does Team Israel have to destroy and marginalize anything positive about Palestinians?

Double standards?

Why does Team Palestine have to destroy and marginalize anything positive about Israelis? What you accuse “ Team Israel” of doing I accuse the Pro Palestinian Team of doing

Double standards and a little hypocrisy?

Not at all. We have multiple times removed offensive off topic stuff from fun Israeli threads. In fact I quite enjoy the threads such as Things I Like About Israel and thought it would be nice to create something similar for Palestine, that didn't involve the usual crap and showed intetesting cultural things.

Why is this unacceptable to you?

It’s not unacceptable to me. I am just pointing out that Team Palestine always destroys and marginalizes anything positive about Israel . Two can play that game

 

[Shusha]

Yes.

For example this thread: Your Favorite Things About Israel

A fun, light PLEASANT thread on cool Israeli stuff. IE..positive tropes that we have in fact moderated several times to cull out the trolling.

Now let me ask you. Why is it it so impossible to allow one thread like that for the Palestinians? Something besides hate, dead bodies, blah blah blah.

Why does Team Israel have to destroy and marginalize anything positive about Palestinians?

Double standards?

Okay. Then, so apply the SAME standards to this thread that you do to the other threads which, as you have stated yourself, is to quietly moderate them to cut out the trolling. Why are you publicly calling out Team Israel? Repeatedly on this thread. Instead of applying the same standards?

 

[José]

Because she doesn't have an authoritarian nature... because she is a tolerant, democratic moderator.

She doesn't like to ban people, delete threads and posts and go out of her way to avoid these actions...

She takes those extreme measures that hurt posters only as a last resort.

 

[Coyote]

The beat goes on for Palestinian drum craftsman | Reuters

(Reuters) - Ayoub al-Zaatari combines tradition and artistry in the handmade drums he crafts in his workshop in the ancient town of Hebron.

The 55-year-old Palestinian learned his trade from his father, and sells his clay drums in the occupied West Bank and in Israel.

It takes Zaatari about 40 minutes to paint the body of the instruments, available in four sizes, and then stretch and attach their animal hide drumheads.

 

[Coyote]

Crafting beautiful music in Palestine

Crafting beautiful music in Palestine

Ramallah, occupied West Bank - Shehada Shalalda, 24, is the youngest among the very few luthiers in Palestine. He was born in the old centre of Ramallah, next to the shop where he now works.

About a decade ago, when Shalalda was 15, al-Kamandjati music school opened its doors just metres from his house. Having never seen musical instruments or heard live music before, he says he was immediately attracted by the beautiful sounds of the violin and the oud, a traditional Arabic instrument.

In 2008, a luthier came to Ramallah to repair violins in the workshop near his house. Shalalda says he became very interested in the craftsmanship, and tried to make his own violin from a piece of wood. Noticing the young man's dedication, luthier Paolo Sortigiantoni invited him to his workshop in Florence, where Shalalda made his first two violins. A year later, Shalalda set off for the UK to study to become a luthier.

 

[Coyote]

Palestinian life beyond the conflict....

Yes...ostrich farming...

Can Palestinian ostrich farming help beat Israeli occupation?


Given ostrich meat is not a common delicacy among Israelis or Palestinians, for now Abu Tir sells only on demand, but he is optimistic the business can grow.

“It will take a while for the idea of eating ostrich to gain traction in the local market. For Palestinians it’s a strange meat and it’s also fairly expensive,” he said.

“Even turkey took a while to catch on. Palestinians prefer to eat fattier meat such as lamb.”

Abu Tir has an arsenal of arguments to promote his product.

“Ostrich meat is better for your health, and the way they are farmed is much less damaging to the environment than with sheep or cattle,” he said.

 

[Coyote]

About ShamsArd

ShamsArd Design Studio was founded in 2012 by a collective of architects with the goal of finding design solutions that hold social and environmental responsibility at its core. The studio specializes in natural building design and supervision, active and passive solar solutions, wastewater recycling and regenerative landscaping, in addition to ecological interior and furniture design. ShamsArd is based in Ramallah, Palestine.

Moon House
Completed 2013
The building is a quad-dome 84 sqm private residence, built entirely of earth using the technique of earth-filled bags. The house uses many passive solar techniques for comfort. It incorporates natural ventilation technique through a aind-catching tower "Malqaf". The domed rooftop has operable openings at the top that allow for hot air to escape and be replaced by cool air from the Malqaf. The building filters gray water and uses it for irrigation of the surrounding garden, and uses local traditional tiles and locally made finishes

 

[Coyote]

On pencil leads, young Palestinian artist carves breathtaking micro-sculptures

Feature: On pencil leads, young Palestinian artist carves breathtaking micro-sculptures - Xinhua | English.news.cn


The young man, who is considered the first Palestinian to practice this kind of art, said this art requires much patience and steady nerves.

With much concentration, Abu Zour can carve miniature figures out of pencil graphite, turning pencil leads into fine art works.

His micro-sculptures have featured items representing love, peace, homeland and many world famous iconic buildings, including the Big Ben clock tower in London.

 

[Coyote]

Sand Scultures on a Gaza Beach...

 

[Coyote]

Meet the man out to save Gaza's antiquities

A treasure trove of 'ancient' archaeology tucked away in Gaza | Reuters

 

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[Linkiloo]

It seems that the Palestinians are doing pretty well. They are eductaed and well fed. I had the impression that they were lving in a concentration camp. Thanks for sharing these interesting articles.

 

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[Coyote]

This Young Palestinian Engineer Is Helping Rebuild Gaza With Waste

 

[Coyote]

Palestinian student invents solar panel cleaning robot

Palestinian student invents solar panel cleaning robot

Solar panels lose out on efficiency as they become dusty, so Al-Barghouti designed and produced a robot which operates independently to clean the panels regardless to how much dust there is.

The student from the department of mechanics and mechatronics engineering said production took eight months, including the time it took to research and develop the robot.

 

[Coyote]

Stunning horses...

Palestinians in East Jerusalem cherish horses as family | Reuters

For Palestinians, Raising Arabian Horses Is ‘the Hobby of the Poor’

JERUSALEM — In the violent East Jerusalem slum of Issawiya, trash burned next to an open bin, filling the air with an acrid stench. Arabic graffiti covered a stone wall on one side of a steep lane scattered with stones left from clashes between Palestinian residents and Israeli soldiers. A knot of children stopped and eyed two strangers with suspicion.

Then a gray metal gate rumbled open near the top of the street. A pair of exquisitely groomed Arabian horses emerged, their hooves clacking on the dusty pavement. The horses pranced toward the center of town with their riders, Alaa Mustafa, 24, and his cousin Oday Muheisan, 19. Behind them, the open gate revealed a tiny, five-sided lot for exercising horses and a stable with a dozen stalls amid a jumble of apartment buildings.

The two gleaming black horses, certified purebreds named Rawnaq and Furys, provided a glimpse of a Palestinian passion — some call it an obsession — for raising show horses, racehorses and more modest steeds in what might seem like impossible conditions. The horses are bred and to some extent trained in gritty East Jerusalem neighborhoods like Issawiya, Tur and Jabal al-Mukaber, often by families who struggle to share tiny, cramped homes.

“In America, they call raising horses the hobby of the rich,” said Muhamed Hamdan, 25, a Palestinian trainer who studied in the United States. “Here, it’s the hobby of the poor.”

...Many Palestinians say that affection helps them endure life under Israeli occupation. Palestinians and Israelis in the business, as well as foreign trainers and judges who know the region, say that Arabian horses have another effect that is almost magical: They coax Israelis and Palestinians into the same arenas, where the conflict briefly melts away and everyone admires the horses as they strut, dance, gallop and compete for trophies.

“The Arabian horse makes the world so small and puts people together,” said Renata Schibler, a Swiss official with the European Conference of Arab Horse Organizations, who volunteers as a judge in horse shows — essentially, beauty contests — in Israel, where both Israeli and Palestinian horses compete. “The Israelis, Palestinians, sitting together, enjoying the horses. It’s difficult to describe.”

 

[Linkiloo]

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Stunning horses...

Palestinians in East Jerusalem cherish horses as family | Reuters

For Palestinians, Raising Arabian Horses Is ‘the Hobby of the Poor’

JERUSALEM — In the violent East Jerusalem slum of Issawiya, trash burned next to an open bin, filling the air with an acrid stench. Arabic graffiti covered a stone wall on one side of a steep lane scattered with stones left from clashes between Palestinian residents and Israeli soldiers. A knot of children stopped and eyed two strangers with suspicion.

Then a gray metal gate rumbled open near the top of the street. A pair of exquisitely groomed Arabian horses emerged, their hooves clacking on the dusty pavement. The horses pranced toward the center of town with their riders, Alaa Mustafa, 24, and his cousin Oday Muheisan, 19. Behind them, the open gate revealed a tiny, five-sided lot for exercising horses and a stable with a dozen stalls amid a jumble of apartment buildings.

The two gleaming black horses, certified purebreds named Rawnaq and Furys, provided a glimpse of a Palestinian passion — some call it an obsession — for raising show horses, racehorses and more modest steeds in what might seem like impossible conditions. The horses are bred and to some extent trained in gritty East Jerusalem neighborhoods like Issawiya, Tur and Jabal al-Mukaber, often by families who struggle to share tiny, cramped homes.

“In America, they call raising horses the hobby of the rich,” said Muhamed Hamdan, 25, a Palestinian trainer who studied in the United States. “Here, it’s the hobby of the poor.”

...Many Palestinians say that affection helps them endure life under Israeli occupation. Palestinians and Israelis in the business, as well as foreign trainers and judges who know the region, say that Arabian horses have another effect that is almost magical: They coax Israelis and Palestinians into the same arenas, where the conflict briefly melts away and everyone admires the horses as they strut, dance, gallop and compete for trophies.

“The Arabian horse makes the world so small and puts people together,” said Renata Schibler, a Swiss official with the European Conference of Arab Horse Organizations, who volunteers as a judge in horse shows — essentially, beauty contests — in Israel, where both Israeli and Palestinian horses compete. “The Israelis, Palestinians, sitting together, enjoying the horses. It’s difficult to describe.”

I've never heard of a hobby for the poor being raising throughbred horses. They must be much ealthier than European poor. How to feed them, groom them, care for them if you are poor? Sounds strange to me but it isn't clearly explained in the article.