Paddock prescribed antidepressants in June, which means virtually every mass shooter....

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    If you are talking about pushing drugs for blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease, COPD...then yes.

    But I don't prescribe narcotic or benzos. I've had a lot of pissed patients walk out when I told them this.
     
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    And yet EVERY mass shooter in American history has been a political jihadist / known political terrorist and / or a person on prescribed psychotropic drugs / under the care of a medical professional.
     
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    Valium s NOT a powerful psychotropic drug. It is considered one of the safest drugs in the world.
     
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    I mean really, just take a LOOK at all of the potential side effects of just one of these drugs, lorazepam, which is pretty commonly prescribed, yet WEED is illegal. Lol.

    Lorazepam Side Effects in Detail - Drugs.com


    For the Consumer
    Applies to lorazepam: oral solution, oral tablet

    Other dosage forms:

    Along with its needed effects, lorazepam may cause some unwanted effects. Although not all of these side effects may occur, if they do occur they may need medical attention.

    Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side effects occur while taking lorazepam:

    More common
    • Drowsiness
    • relaxed and calm
    • sleepiness
    Incidence not known
    • Abdominal or stomach pain
    • aggressive, angry
    • agitation
    • attack, assault, or force
    • black, tarry stools
    • bleeding gums
    • blood in the urine or stools
    • bluish lips or skin
    • blurred vision
    • change in consciousness
    • chills
    • coma
    • confusion
    • confusion about identity, place, and time
    • convulsions
    • cough or hoarseness
    • dark urine
    • decreased urine output
    • difficulty with breathing or swallowing
    • difficulty with speaking
    • discouragement
    • dizziness, faintness, or lightheadedness when getting up suddenly from a lying or sitting position
    • drooling
    • dry mouth
    • excitation
    • false or unusual sense of well-being
    • fast or irregular heartbeat
    • feeling sad or empty
    • fever with or without chills
    • general feeling of tiredness or weakness
    • headache
    • hives, itching, or rash
    • hyperventilation
    • increased thirst
    • irregular, fast or slow, or shallow breathing
    • irritability
    • loss of appetite
    • loss of balance control
    • loss of consciousness
    • loss of interest or pleasure
    • loss of memory
    • lower back or side pain
    • muscle pain or cramps
    • muscle trembling, jerking, or stiffness
    • nausea or vomiting
    • not breathing
    • painful or difficult urination
    • pale or blue lips, fingernails, or skin
    • pinpoint red spots on the skin
    • problems with memory
    • puffiness or swelling of the eyelids or around the eyes, face, lips, or tongue
    • reddening of the skin, especially around ears
    • restlessness
    • seeing, hearing, or feeling things that are not there
    • seizures
    • shaking
    • shuffling walk
    • sore throat
    • sores, ulcers, or white spots on the lips or in the mouth
    • stiffness of the limbs
    • sweating
    • swelling of the eyes or inside of the nose
    • swelling of the face, ankles, or hands
    • swollen glands
    • thoughts or attempts at killing oneself
    • tightness in the chest
    • trouble concentrating
    • trouble sleeping
    • twisting movements of body
    • uncontrolled movements, especially of the face, neck, and back
    • unexplained bleeding or bruising
    • unpleasant breath odor
    • unusual bleeding or bruising
    • unusual tiredness or weakness
    • vomiting of blood
    • yellow eyes or skin
    Get emergency help immediately if any of the following symptoms of overdose occur while taking lorazepam:

    Symptoms of overdose
    • Changes in patterns and rhythms of speech
    • increased sweating
    • loss of strength or energy
    • nightmares
    • shakiness and unsteady walk
    • slurred speech
    • trouble speaking
    • unsteadiness, trembling, or other problems with muscle control or coordination
    • unusual drowsiness, dullness, tiredness, weakness, or feeling of sluggishness
    • unusual excitement, nervousness, restlessness, or irritability
    • unusual paleness
    • unusual weak feeling
    Some side effects of lorazepam may occur that usually do not need medical attention. These side effects may go away during treatment as your body adjusts to the medicine. Also, your health care professional may be able to tell you about ways to prevent or reduce some of these side effects. Check with your health care professional if any of the following side effects continue or are bothersome or if you have any questions about them:

    Incidence not known
    • Being forgetful
    • clumsiness
    • constipation
    • decreased interest in sexual intercourse
    • disturbed color perception
    • dizziness or lightheadedness
    • double vision
    • drowsiness
    • feeling of constant movement of self or surroundings
    • hair loss or thinning of the hair
    • halos around lights
    • inability to have or keep an erection
    • increased in sexual ability, desire, drive, or performance
    • increased interest in sexual intercourse
    • lack or loss of self-control
    • lethargy
    • loss in sexual ability, desire, drive, or performance
    • muscle aches, twitching, or weakness
    • night blindness
    • overbright appearance of lights
    • rapid weight gain
    • sensation of spinning
    • shakiness in the legs, arms, hands, or feet
    • shivering
    • stupor
    • trembling or shaking of the hands or feet
    • tunnel vision
    • weak or feeble pulse

     
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    Here are some of the side effects of diazepam (brand name - Valium)

    For the Consumer
    Applies to diazepam: oral capsule extended release, oral solution, oral tablet

    Other dosage forms:

    Along with its needed effects, diazepam may cause some unwanted effects. Although not all of these side effects may occur, if they do occur they may need medical attention.

    Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side effects occur while taking diazepam:

    More common
    • Shakiness and unsteady walk
    • unsteadiness, trembling, or other problems with muscle control or coordination
    Incidence not known
    • Abdominal or stomach pain
    • agitation
    • black, tarry stools
    • blistering, flaking, or peeling of the skin
    • blurred vision
    • changes in patterns and rhythms of speech
    • chills
    • confusion
    • cough
    • dark urine
    • decrease in the frequency of urination
    • decrease in urine volume
    • difficulty in passing urine (dribbling)
    • discouragement
    • dizziness, faintness, or lightheadedness when getting up suddenly from a lying or sitting position
    • false beliefs that cannot be changed by facts
    • fast heartbeat
    • fast or irregular breathing
    • feeling sad or empty
    • feeling that others are watching you or controlling your behavior
    • feeling that others can hear your thoughts
    • feeling, seeing, or hearing things that are not there
    • fever
    • headache
    • hyperexcitability
    • increased muscle spasms or tone
    • irritability
    • itching or rash
    • lack of memory of what takes place after a certain event
    • loss of appetite
    • loss of bladder control
    • loss of interest or pleasure
    • lower back or side pain
    • nausea
    • nightmares
    • outbursts of anger
    • painful or difficult urination
    • pale skin
    • restlessness
    • seizures
    • slurred speech
    • sore throat
    • sweating
    • trouble concentrating
    • trouble sleeping
    • trouble speaking
    • ulcers, sores, or white spots in the mouth
    • unpleasant breath odor
    • unusual behavior
    • unusual bleeding or bruising
    • unusual feeling of excitement
    • unusual tiredness or weakness
    • vomiting of blood
    • yellow eyes or skin
    Get emergency help immediately if any of the following symptoms of overdose occur while taking diazepam:

    Symptoms of overdose
    • Change in consciousness
    • difficult or troubled breathing
    • irregular, fast or slow, or shallow breathing
    • lack of coordination
    • loss of consciousness
    • loss of strength or energy
    • muscle pain or weakness
    • pale or blue lips, fingernails, or skin
    • sleepiness
    • unusual drowsiness, dullness, tiredness, weakness, or feeling of sluggishness
    Some side effects of diazepam may occur that usually do not need medical attention. These side effects may go away during treatment as your body adjusts to the medicine. Also, your health care professional may be able to tell you about ways to prevent or reduce some of these side effects. Check with your health care professional if any of the following side effects continue or are bothersome or if you have any questions about them:

    Incidence not known
    • Constipation
    • decreased interest in sexual intercourse
    • diarrhea
    • difficulty with swallowing
    • double vision
    • dry mouth
    • feeling of constant movement of self or surroundings
    • inability to have or keep an erection
    • increase in sexual ability, desire, drive, or performance
    • increased interest in sexual intercourse
    • increased watering of the mouth
    • indigestion
    • loss of sexual ability, desire, drive, or performance
    • passing of gas
    • seeing double
    • sensation of spinning
     
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    Hmm. I'm thinking that some people are probably better off without the psychotropics. We are so dependent upon drugs. Is that the ONLY way you can feel better. What did people used to do in the old days before the days of Valium and all of these "feel good" prescription drugs? They dealt with it in other ways is what they did.
     
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    Look up aspirin's side-effects.

    Every medicine has potential side-effects, but the vast majority of people that take a particular medicine never get any side-effects. Or they get some side-effects but they are minor and transient.
     
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    You might be better off without the psychotropics. But many people are NOT better off without them.
     
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    Valium causes violent behavior ? It only causes me to get another pillow and listen to some Floyd. Which one is pink ?
     
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    Yes, I know that. I know all about the side effects of meds because of my job. However, these are LISTED side effects which means they were observed during clinical trials or reported by patients. Just because it is rare doesn't mean it doesn't happen and with more and more people being medicated and sent on their way, then you can expect that there are going to be more "bad reactions" to these meds. Besides that, mass shootings are rare, so who is to say that these people didn't experience some side effects? Who would deny the possibility of that? No doctor that I know of!
     
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