oysters and ocean acidity

[CrusaderFrank]

People also use CHAINSAWS, Crosstard. That cuts CO2 metabolizing, since the 1950s, as much as any cars or cement emit, and more. Like CARS, "c-saws" starts with a "C." Just sayin' . . . but I know you are the dumbest thing, since shit.

Tell me again about the 30% increase in ocean acidity

 

[whitehall]

The problem is that you really can't trust "research" funded directly or indirectly by the government. The "researchers" will come up with whatever propaganda the grant specifies for as long as the grant lasts. It's ironic that the demise of the oyster grounds coincides with the time span of federal assistance to battery manufacturing plants based on the West Coast that use extremely hazardous materials to make gigantic car batteries that nobody wants to buy. It's easy to blame global warming but regardless of safeguards it seems that haz-mat stuff winds up in the ocean somehow.

 

[bobgnote]

The RATS did it, wethole. This guy and his friends pissed in the water:

Crosstard, you know we aren't going to have oyster larvae, for awhile, in the Northern hemisphere, and the South is gathering data, but they should have a report, in our Fall. Why don't you try to be more like this guy, while we wait for fresh reports:

Here's something I didn't know. The water which upwells is basically the same water, which was at the surface, 50 years ago. So as the upwelling cycle matures, the water will be even more acidic, but it will tend to be from half-century old assimilation, of atmospheric carbon:

Along the Pacific Northwest coast, that ongoing process is intensified by a natural ocean circulation pattern, the seasonal upwelling that pulls water from the deep ocean onto the continental shelf each spring. According to a 2008 study by researchers at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the water stirred up by that natural upwelling has reached levels of acidity that scientists once believed wouldn't occur until 2050.

But that fast-forward is also a look backward. The deep ocean water stirred by the annual upwelling is the surface water of 50 years ago, increasingly richer in CO2 as the proportion increased in the atmosphere.

Now, as that old water resurfaces, it is creating new problems for shellfish growers.

New Study Links More Acidic Ocean to Oyster Die-Offs - AccuWeather.com

 

[skookerasbil]

The RATS did it, wethole. This guy and his friends pissed in the water:





Crosstard, you know we aren't going to have oyster larvae, for awhile, in the Northern hemisphere, and the South is gathering data, but they should have a report, in our Fall. Why don't you try to be more like this guy, while we wait for fresh reports:

Here's something I didn't know. The water which upwells is basically the same water, which was at the surface, 50 years ago. So as the upwelling cycle matures, the water will be even more acidic, but it will tend to be from half-century old assimilation, of atmospheric carbon:

Along the Pacific Northwest coast, that ongoing process is intensified by a natural ocean circulation pattern, the seasonal upwelling that pulls water from the deep ocean onto the continental shelf each spring. According to a 2008 study by researchers at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the water stirred up by that natural upwelling has reached levels of acidity that scientists once believed wouldn't occur until 2050.

But that fast-forward is also a look backward. The deep ocean water stirred by the annual upwelling is the surface water of 50 years ago, increasingly richer in CO2 as the proportion increased in the atmosphere.

Now, as that old water resurfaces, it is creating new problems for shellfish growers.

New Study Links More Acidic Ocean to Oyster Die-Offs - AccuWeather.com

but......................

 

[flacaltenn]

The problem is that you really can't trust "research" funded directly or indirectly by the government. The "researchers" will come up with whatever propaganda the grant specifies for as long as the grant lasts. It's ironic that the demise of the oyster grounds coincides with the time span of federal assistance to battery manufacturing plants based on the West Coast that use extremely hazardous materials to make gigantic car batteries that nobody wants to buy. It's easy to blame global warming but regardless of safeguards it seems that haz-mat stuff winds up in the ocean somehow.

In fact -- the whole OP of this thread is probably gonna become another example of warmer premature ejaculation. I'm putting up a new thread right now about the studies on oysters and acidification that are JUST NOW being done.. Convienient speculation is rampant. What's in the water is more desparation than acid..

 

[flacaltenn]

The RATS did it, wethole. This guy and his friends pissed in the water:



Crosstard, you know we aren't going to have oyster larvae, for awhile, in the Northern hemisphere, and the South is gathering data, but they should have a report, in our Fall. Why don't you try to be more like this guy, while we wait for fresh reports:

Here's something I didn't know. The water which upwells is basically the same water, which was at the surface, 50 years ago. So as the upwelling cycle matures, the water will be even more acidic, but it will tend to be from half-century old assimilation, of atmospheric carbon:

Along the Pacific Northwest coast, that ongoing process is intensified by a natural ocean circulation pattern, the seasonal upwelling that pulls water from the deep ocean onto the continental shelf each spring. According to a 2008 study by researchers at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the water stirred up by that natural upwelling has reached levels of acidity that scientists once believed wouldn't occur until 2050.

But that fast-forward is also a look backward. The deep ocean water stirred by the annual upwelling is the surface water of 50 years ago, increasingly richer in CO2 as the proportion increased in the atmosphere.

Now, as that old water resurfaces, it is creating new problems for shellfish growers.

New Study Links More Acidic Ocean to Oyster Die-Offs - AccuWeather.com

BullShit.. OA is a surface phenomenom with 100s of years of lag for deeper colder water.

And BS on "not having any oyster larvae in the Northern Hemi" --- See the new thread going up tonight for details..

OSU is gonna be real embarrassed by that article you cited when REAL scientists actually test the theory.. Those idiots need a good whooping..

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Bobgnote, how is the ocean 30% more acidic?

 

[flacaltenn]

NEWFLASH for the OP of this tired thread..

http://www.usmessageboard.com/envir...ill-oysters-with-massive-co2.html#post5592008

The oysters are probably not dying of CO2..
Details at 11.. Leave your rat's asses here..

 

[koshergrl]

I don't think those oysters are native to the Oregon Coast, incidentally.

Climates change. Boo fucking hoo, get over it.

 

[koshergrl]

Soooo...

we have warmers pissing and moaning that introduced commercial oyster beds, that typically grow in much warmer waters than what Oregon has to offer, are not doing hot?

Seriously?

How are our native oysters doing?

Oh, why, they're coming back in our estuaries....in Coos, Netarts and Yaqina Bay.....

So what, exactly, is the environmental impact of these introduced oysters failing to thrive?

Zip. Nada.

We aren't allowed to harvest our own fucking wood, and local guys can't fish our own waters.... but apparently somebody thought it would be a really good idea to start growing Japanese oysters here.

Too bad so sad.

 

[flacaltenn]

Soooo...

we have warmers pissing and moaning that introduced commercial oyster beds, that typically grow in much warmer waters than what Oregon has to offer, are not doing hot?

Seriously?

How are our native oysters doing?

Oh, why, they're coming back in our estuaries....in Coos, Netarts and Yaqina Bay.....

So what, exactly, is the environmental impact of these introduced oysters failing to thrive?

Zip. Nada.

We aren't allowed to harvest our own fucking wood, and local guys can't fish our own waters.... but apparently somebody thought it would be a really good idea to start growing Japanese oysters here.

Too bad so sad.

Hey what do you know.. You're not even ALLOWED to eat oysters...

 

[koshergrl]

Cripes.

 

[koshergrl]

The native oysters (which are doing great) we aren't allowed to touch.

The pacific oysters are ALL privately owned, and non-native.

 

[flacaltenn]

The native oysters (which are doing great) we aren't allowed to touch.

The pacific oysters are ALL privately owned, and non-native.

Check out the new study I linked at post #48..

 

[PredFan]

Bought a bushel of Florida oysters for the 4th of July. They were HUGE and delicious.

 

[bobgnote]

NEWFLASH for the OP of this tired thread..

http://www.usmessageboard.com/envir...ill-oysters-with-massive-co2.html#post5592008

The oysters are probably not dying of CO2..
Details at 11.. Leave your rat's asses here..

Deflecting queer clown FECALTOONS loaded a link, to his new thread, where he somehow insinuates some place called "The Roberts Lab" is the NOAA, which funded a rather irrelevant study, published at the Roberts Lab blog.

Roberts Lab refers to some guy, named Steven Roberts and his colleagues, which studied pCO2 in water, with degree of mortality, for backing off the known mortality temperature, for oysters, starting at 44 C.

The study did not attempt to simulate actual ocean conditions, where water of various temperature and salinity assimilates CO2, then settles, to the bottom, to be subjected, to upwelling phenomena, after exchanging CO2 to H2CO3 and CaCO3, over 50 years or some other relevant time-frame.

The study took readings for effects of induced pCO2, over 72 hours, in order to assess the basic toxicity of CO2, which was apparently of interest, to somebody, while assessing the mortality of oysters, while backing off, from the known mortality temperature, of water, which the oceans are not likely to approach, until humans are also dying, of something only marginally foreseen.

Fecaltoons has apparently learned nothing, about double-entry accounting OR science, but he has learned, to suck both ass and balls, from sucksassandballs.

But what did sucksassandballs learn? Nothing, I bet.

 

[flacaltenn]

NEWFLASH for the OP of this tired thread..

http://www.usmessageboard.com/envir...ill-oysters-with-massive-co2.html#post5592008

The oysters are probably not dying of CO2..
Details at 11.. Leave your rat's asses here..

Deflecting queer clown FECALTOONS loaded a link, to his new thread, where he somehow insinuates some place called "The Roberts Lab" is the NOAA, which funded a rather irrelevant study, published at the Roberts Lab blog.

Roberts Lab refers to some guy, named Steven Roberts and his colleagues, which studied pCO2 in water, with degree of mortality, for backing off the known mortality temperature, for oysters, starting at 44 C.

The study did not attempt to simulate actual ocean conditions, where water of various temperature and salinity assimilates CO2, then settles, to the bottom, to be subjected, to upwelling phenomena, after exchanging CO2 to H2CO3 and CaCO3, over 50 years or some other relevant time-frame.

The study took readings for effects of induced pCO2, over 72 hours, in order to assess the basic toxicity of CO2, which was apparently of interest, to somebody, while assessing the mortality of oysters, while backing off, from the known mortality temperature, of water, which the oceans are not likely to approach, until humans are also dying, of something only marginally foreseen.

Fecaltoons has apparently learned nothing, about double-entry accounting OR science, but he has learned, to suck both ass and balls, from sucksassandballs.

But what did sucksassandballs learn? Nothing, I bet.

Wow -- what a dumbass. I linked to the study thru the NOAA website and the Reports have NOAA written all over them..
They ARE the official REQUIRED Progress Reports to the sponsor..

Just go away.. You're annoying and gross and stupid. CO2 and acidity is NOT causing oyster farming to die on the West Coast. Stupidity is the cause.. It's rampant.. Read why over in the thread that I referenced..

Little tiny factoids got you down? Go debate whether Obama could beat Romney in bowling.

 

[bobgnote]

Eat SHIT, you cocksucking queer, Fecaltoons. You linked to a study, at a webpage, headed "Roberts Lab."

The link to the study at The Roberts Lab described pCO2 and temperature experiments, which temperatures were based on incremental back-off, from mortality temperature, NOT H2CO3 in simulated ocean water, of varying cold temperatures and eddy-behavior, which IF they simulated the deadly upwellings would be relevant study NUMBER ONE.

Raw pCO2 isn't deadly. 44 C is. Whoop-de-fucking-doodly-dog-doo, shit-eating Fecaltoons!

The NOAA emblem is at the bottom of the Roberts Lab webpage, with a claim, to funding the study.

Eat dog-shit, you queer fecophile.