*O'Yeah, Christians Are Safe In Iraq Too!*

[Jroc]

You've got to love the way these idiots blame everybody but the wakos that comment these acts. I'm sure the Iraq people would rather be fighting these idiots as free people, then to be slaves of Saddam. and I'm still waiting for all that oil we stole from them

The wakos would not be attacking anyone in Iraq if the invasion and occupation had not occured. Given the amount of death and destruction since the Shockingly Aweful invasion occured I bet most Iraqis long for the calm days where all they had to worry about was Saddam and his hinchmen.

Yeah... you'd say that if one Saddam’s sons came and snatched you up and you took a trip to the rape room... the moral equivalency with you anti war people never cease to amaze me, Why don’t you read some history before you start making stupid statements



He saw something he liked, recalls his former aide Adib Shabaan, who helped arrange the party. Uday tightened the focus on a pretty 14-year-old girl in a bright yellow dress sitting with her father, a former provincial governor, her mother and her younger brother and sister.
Uday's bodyguards picked up the signal and walked through the darkened room, flicking cigarette lighters as they approached the girl's table. Uday, then 33, flipped on his too, confirming they had identified the right one. When the girl left the table for the powder room, Uday's bodyguards approached her with a choice, says Shabaan, who was Uday's business manager. She could ascend the platform now and congratulate Uday on his recovery, or she could call him on his private phone that night. Flustered, she apologized and said her parents would allow neither. One of the guards replied, "This is the chance of your life" and promised she would receive diamonds and a car. "All you have to do is go up there for 10 minutes," he urged. When she demurred again, the bodyguards pursued Uday's backup plan. They maneuvered the girl in the direction of the parking lot, picked her up and carried her to the backseat of Uday's car, covering her mouth to muffle her screams.

After three days the girl was returned to her home, with a new dress, a new watch and a large sum of cash. Her parents had her tested for rape; the result was positive. According to Shabaan's account, Uday heard she had been tested and sent aides to the clinic, where they warned doctors not to report a rape. Furious, the father demanded to see Saddam himself. Rebuffed, he kept complaining publicly about what Uday had done. After three months, the President's son had had enough. He sent two guards to the man to insist that he drop the matter. Uday had another demand: that the ex-governor bring his daughter and her 12-year-old sister to his next party. "Your daughters will be my girlfriends, or I'll wipe you off the face of the earth." The man complied, surrendering both girls.

It has long been known in Iraq and beyond that as venal and vicious as Saddam Hussein was, Uday was worse. Now that the regime has fallen, the quotidian details of the son's outrages are beginning to emerge. With Iraqis free to speak more openly, it has become clear that the malignancy of Uday's behavior actually exceeded that of his reputation. At the same time, new hints are emerging about his psychological state. Uday, now 38, suffered not only from the anguish of Saddam's disapproval



Read more: The Sum of Two Evils - TIME

http://www.gallup.com/poll/9334/ous...s-worth-hardships-endured-since-invasion.aspx

 

[Marc39]

Sorry bout that,


1. So you are saying Chritians, ie Booosh, did it to the Christians in Iraq yesterday?
2. Another rabid libturd on the loose if so.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

The invasion and occuaption of Iraq had some unintentional consequences. One of them is that women, minorities (including the Iraqi Christians) all lost rights.

Where in the totalitarian Arab world do people have rights? That would be nowhere.

 

[R.C. Christian]

They have rights in all the places your illiterate brain couldn't point out on a map. In any event, perhaps you should consider that many don't care about your version of "rights". Better go bomb some sense into em' John Wayne. "Beacause in every moooslim, there is an American waiting to get out", LOL.

 

[Marc39]

They have rights in all the places your illiterate brain couldn't point out on a map. In any event, perhaps you should consider that many don't care about your version of "rights". Better go bomb some sense into em' John Wayne. "Beacause in every moooslim, there is an American waiting to get out", LOL.

Arabs have rights in despotic totalitarian dictatorial Arab Muslim shitholes? LOL

What About Arab Apartheid?
by Khaled Abu Toameh

It is funny to see countries such as Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Egypt condemn Israel for being an "apartheid" state and for restricting freedom of religion. These countries, along with the Palestinian Authority and predominantly Islamic countries, should be the last to talk about "apartheid," freedom of religion bad persecution of minorities. Of all Arab and Islamic countries, Saudi Arabia is often described as a "glaring example of religious apartheid." Although Saudi authorities allow Christians to enter the country as temporary workers, they don’t permit them to practice their faith. Items and articles belonging to religions other than Islam are prohibited. Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is considered apostasy, a crime punishable by death. Saudi Arabia does not allow non-Muslim clergy to enter the kingdom country for the purpose of conducting religious services. Christians, and other non-Muslims, are prohibited from entering the cities of Mecca and Medina.

In Riyadh, the death sentence against a Lebanese charged with "sorcery" has just been re-confirmed. The man, Ali Hussein Sibat, a father of five, is a former host of a popular call-in-show that aired on a Lebanese satellite TV channel. H was arrested by Saudi Arabia’s religious police and charged with sorcery while visiting the country in May 2008. According to his lawyer, Sibat’s only crime was the he used to predict the future on his show and give out advice to his audience. The real threat to peace in the Middle East is the absence of freedom, democracy and transparency in the Arab and Islamic world.

In Cairo earlier this week, a court postponed the trial of three Egyptian Muslims accused of murdering six Coptic Christians and a police officer in southern Egypt last January. The murderers sprayed worshippers with bullets as they emerged from services on the eve of the Coptic Orthodox Christmas in the village of Nagga Hammadi. Egypt’s Copts are an endangered minority. Over the past few decades, hundreds of thousands have emigrated, while many of those who are left behind are forced to convert to Islam every year to escape persecution.

In Baghdad earlier this week, Iraqi Christians took to the streets to protest against increased attacks and to demand government protection. The demonstration was held after nine Christians were killed in the past two weeks in the city of Mosul. The United Nations says more than 600 Christian families have fled the city since the recent attacks. Attacks on Christians in Iraq are not a new phenomenon. In 2004, five churches in Baghdad were bombed, and any Christians have since been kidnapped, murdered and maimed. Earlier this month, more than 200 villagers, most of them Christians, were slaughtered by Muslims in a Nigerian town called Jos. The perpetrators were reported to have set homes on fire and slashed peoplke with knives and machetes. In Rabat, Moroccan authorities last week expelled some 70 foreign Christian aid workers for allegedly trying to convert local Muslims. Many of those targeted in the nationwide crackdown cared for 33 Moroccan orphans at the Christian orphanage Village of Hope in the town of Ain Leuh. Morocco’s government defended the decision by claiming that the Christians had violated the Islamic country’s religious traditions and legislation banning proselytizing.

Earlier this month, more than 200 villagers, most of them Christians, were slaughtered by Muslims in a Nigerian a town called Jos. The perpetrators were reported to have set homes on fire and slashed people with knives and machetes. In Sudan, Christians, especially those living in the southern part of the country continue to complain about persecution and murder. In Lebanon, Christians continue to flee the country in search of a better life in North America and Europe. In Bethlehem last week, the Palestinian Authority closed down the only Palestinian Christian TV station in the West Bank. The station, called Al-Mahed (Nativity) TV, had been operating for the past 14 years and was known as the only mouthpiece for the Christian minority in the Holy Land. The Palestinian Authority claimed that the station was shut because it did not have a proper license..

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[rdean]

Sorry bout that,

They didn't have any problems when Saddam was there.

1. So saddam was better for Iraq, is what you're saying?


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

No, that's what they're saying. "They're" being Iraqi women, gays, and just about everyone else. Maybe not the Kurds.

 

[uscitizen]

Umm who has said that Christians were safe in Iraq?

Or does that do along with being a democracy?

 

[rdean]

Umm who has said that Christians were safe in Iraq?

Or does that do along with being a democracy?

I can't tell you how many right wingers on this board called me names for pointing out what has happened to the Christians in Iraq. Beyond the names they normally call me.

Right wingers here have said Iraq is stabilizing and is now a free democracy.

The Christians are finally able to worship the way they always wanted.

That it is better now than it was under Saddam.

That women in Iraq always wore burkas (I can't believe someone actually said that).