OWS & Wall Street Are On Same Team. They Both Share The Entitlement Mentality...

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    The sad irony is that both OWS and Wall Street really do share the same Entitlement mentality. It's all about stealing from fellow Citizens to better themselves. It's a very selfish outlook. I've been paying close attention to the signs and what most of the OWS protesters are saying. And it does seem to boil down to them truly believing they're entitled to someone else's income. And it's obviously the same with Wall Street. It's the belief that just because they're here on Planet Earth,they deserve to have something given to them. I don't think most Americans support that mentality though. That's why i think the OWS will eventually fade out. These are just my own observations though. What do you think?
     
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    OWS was onto something early on when it was about being angry with Wall Street. But then it got hijacked by the Soros-funded Left Wing groups. Since then it's been all about the Entitlement whining. They've lost so much support.
     
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    They shouldn't have allowed the hardcore Left Wing Socialist groups to hijack their Movement. It went from being angry at Wall Street to 'GIMME GIMME GIMME!!" after the Entitlement kooks took over. They blew it.
     
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    "Ron Paul and Josef Stalin are on the same team. They both share the civilization mentality." -- Conan the Barbarian

    It's all a matter of perspective. ;)
     
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    That's cool. Not sure i agree but ok. I just see this selfish Entitlement mentality coming from both. I guess it really is 'Generation Gimme.' But can our nation survive it.
     
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    tell me how many countries survived the concentration of wealth that we have now ?
     
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    Is OWS still going on?

    Anyway...yes...they both have the same mentality...they both want the govt to take from others to give to them.

    Corporate bailouts
    College loan bailouts
     
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    no takers to answer the question?
     
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    Yea but they were onto something early on in being angry at Wall Street. That was something most Americans could actually get behind. But then they got hijacked by the radical Left. It went downhill fast. The Entitlement kooks took over the Movement for good. Now it's all about stealing from fellow Citizens to better themselves. They're no different than Wall Street. They're just demanding handouts too. The Movement is dead in my opinion.
     
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    Here's what I mean. Wall Street has a view of how wealth is produced that might be called the "factory" model. In this model, wealth production is a cooperative effort by multiple people, and the necessary effort is divided such that it there is no obvious and natural way to determine who contributes exactly what to the production of what is produced; the wealth is divided up after the fact according to agreements depending on bargaining leverage. This is similar to the way things work in a modern factory.

    Libertarians tend to use what might be called a "sole craftsman" model, in which each individual produces wealth independently of all others and the correct level of prosperity for each person is easily determined and, in fact, accrues naturally. This is similar to the way things work with independent solitary craftsmen.

    Occupy agrees with Wall Street that the factory model is more accurate. Wall Street uses its influence with the company president (so to speak) to ensure that it get a high and growing share of the collectively-produced wealth. Occupy thinks this is unfair and furthermore that the company president is a corrupt sleazebag. It wants the company to divide the wealth more equitably or, failing that, to toss the creeps out and institute a worker-owned collective. (I'm still speaking metaphorically.)

    Naturally, libertarians would see a similarity between the two, since both are using the same model for how the economy works, and both approve of redistribution of wealth (Wall Street to favor the 1%, Occupy to favor the 99%). As far as that goes, they're right -- just as Conan would be right to see a similarity between Ron Paul and Stalin, from his own barbarian perspective. But that doesn't mean in either case that the differences between the two aren't profound as well.
     

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