OWS shuts down Port of Oakland

[Conservative]

Their right to protest, IMHO, ends where it infringes on my right to earn a paycheck to feed my family.

So it ends when it inconveniences you.

But don't paint the dock workers as victims. Most of them are supportive of this move and participated in it.

Nice to know you consider being able to earn a paycheck an inconvenience.

 

[Dragon]

Nice to know you consider being able to earn a paycheck an inconvenience.

It's not like anyone at the dock is going to be permanently out of a job.

Did you read the rest of my post?

 

[Si modo]

OWS can be proud that they prevented thousands of working class folks from being paid for at least a day.

That's not chump change to those families, either.

 

[Conservative]

Nice to know you consider being able to earn a paycheck an inconvenience.

It's not like anyone at the dock is going to be permanently out of a job.

Did you read the rest of my post?

Whether the workers support the OWS protestors in general or not is immaterial to the bigger picture.

Their right to protest does not trump someone else's right to earn a paycheck, even it the interruption is a day, that's a day too long.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Time to roll in the water cannons.

 

[Conservative]

Time to roll in the water cannons.

I don't have a problem with a peaceful, non-violent protest that doesn't prevent uninvolved people from getting to their jobs.

 

[Kiki Cannoli]

Gotta break a few eggs to make a cake.

 

[Dragon]

Whether the workers support the OWS protestors in general or not is immaterial to the bigger picture.

Their right to protest does not trump someone else's right to earn a paycheck, even it the interruption is a day, that's a day too long.

Any protest that is effective is going to disrupt something. If it doesn't, the P.T.B. have no reason to pay attention. You just happen to be latching onto this "get a paycheck" thing because it's there and it's convenient; if they were disrupting something else, like traffic, or the flow of business into a store, you would be saying that, too, trumps the right of protest.

What you are essentially saying, therefore, is that there is a right of protest -- until it becomes effective.

 

[Si modo]

Whether the workers support the OWS protestors in general or not is immaterial to the bigger picture.

Their right to protest does not trump someone else's right to earn a paycheck, even it the interruption is a day, that's a day too long.

Any protest that is effective is going to disrupt something. If it doesn't, the P.T.B. have no reason to pay attention. You just happen to be latching onto this "get a paycheck" thing because it's there and it's convenient; if they were disrupting something else, like traffic, or the flow of business into a store, you would be saying that, too, trumps the right of protest.

What you are essentially saying, therefore, is that there is a right of protest -- until it becomes effective.

That is a steaming pile of horseshit.

The TP never forced anyone to lose a day of work.

And, they got and still get plenty of coverage and attention.

 

[Conservative]

Whether the workers support the OWS protestors in general or not is immaterial to the bigger picture.

Their right to protest does not trump someone else's right to earn a paycheck, even it the interruption is a day, that's a day too long.

Any protest that is effective is going to disrupt something. If it doesn't, the P.T.B. have no reason to pay attention. You just happen to be latching onto this "get a paycheck" thing because it's there and it's convenient; if they were disrupting something else, like traffic, or the flow of business into a store, you would be saying that, too, trumps the right of protest.

What you are essentially saying, therefore, is that there is a right of protest -- until it becomes effective.

No, what I am saying is that I support their right to peacefully protest, as long as said protest doesn't cost someone else who is NOT protesting, their job... even for a day.

What YOU are saying is that the rights of the OWS protestors trump everyone else's rights, and fuck those people who don't understand.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Time to roll in the water cannons.

I don't have a problem with a peaceful, non-violent protest that doesn't prevent uninvolved people from getting to their jobs.

Me either.
Should these children ever revert to such a thing, the water cannons and tear gas can be put away.

 

[Conservative]

whether the workers support the ows protestors in general or not is immaterial to the bigger picture.

Their right to protest does not trump someone else's right to earn a paycheck, even it the interruption is a day, that's a day too long.

any protest that is effective is going to disrupt something. If it doesn't, the p.t.b. Have no reason to pay attention. You just happen to be latching onto this "get a paycheck" thing because it's there and it's convenient; if they were disrupting something else, like traffic, or the flow of business into a store, you would be saying that, too, trumps the right of protest.

What you are essentially saying, therefore, is that there is a right of protest -- until it becomes effective.

that is a steaming pile of horseshit.

The tp never forced anyone to lose a day of work.

And, they got and still get plenty of coverage and attention.

you lie!

 

[Dragon]

The TP never forced anyone to lose a day of work.

And, they got and still get plenty of coverage and attention.

The Tea Party was reinforcing a standard conservative/authoritarian line favorable to the Powers That Be, and so was not really a protest.

 

[Si modo]

The TP never forced anyone to lose a day of work.

And, they got and still get plenty of coverage and attention.

The Tea Party was reinforcing a standard conservative/authoritarian line favorable to the Powers That Be, and so was not really a protest.

It wasn't, eh?

I know you don't like the Constitution - the "Powers That Be" - so I can see how you would think that.

 

[Dragon]

I know you don't like the Constitution - the "Powers That Be" - so I can see how you would think that.

Please stop lying.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The TP never forced anyone to lose a day of work.

And, they got and still get plenty of coverage and attention.

The Tea Party was reinforcing a standard conservative/authoritarian line favorable to the Powers That Be, and so was not really a protest.

The OWS kids are reinforcing a standard liberal/authoritarian line favorable to the Powers That Be, and so are not really a protest.
:shrug:

 

[driveby]

The TP never forced anyone to lose a day of work.

And, they got and still get plenty of coverage and attention.

The Tea Party was reinforcing a standard conservative/authoritarian line favorable to the Powers That Be, and so was not really a protest.

Right, it's not really a protest unless there is littering, public urination and property damage.......

 

[California Girl]

I think TEA stands for Taxed Enough Already, not associated with the colonial revolt.

Violence is unacceptable. Shutting down the port for one day is fine, the effects will hit deep pockets. But I say one day, make your point and leave.

Most people who work those docks do not have 'deep pockets'. They have families to feed, rent or mortgages to pay, and no one has the right to force them out of work for their own selfish wants.

Your rights do not outweigh mine. Not rocket science.

 

[Dragon]

Right, it's not really a protest unless there is littering, public urination and property damage.......

By that standard, Occupy isn't a protest movement, either. You need to stop believing (or perhaps pretending to believe) the lies.

 

[syrenn]

'Occupy Oakland' Protesters Clash With Police Following Day Of Protests | Fox News

Police clashed with protesters in Oakland after thousands of demonstrators shut down one of the nation's busiest shipping ports, escalating a movement whose tactics had largely been limited to marches, rallies and tent encampments since it began in September.

The crowd disrupted port operations by overwhelming the area with people and blocking exits with chain-link fencing and illegally parked vehicles. The demonstrators also erected fences to block main streets to the port. No trucks were allowed into or out of the area.

Port spokesman Isaac Kos-Read said evening operations had been "effectively shut down."

And later port officials released a statement saying that maritime activity would be cancelled indefinitely, but they hoped to resume the work day Thursday.

"Our hope is that the work day can resume tomorrow and that Port workers will be allowed to get to their jobs without incident," the statement read. "Continued missed shifts represent economic hardship for maritime workers, truckers, and their families, as well as lost jobs and lost tax revenue for our region."

Oakland organizers said they targeted the port because they want to stop the "flow of capital."

As protesters left the area on foot some stopped to burn money, others bickered, and one burned an American flag.

Zachary RunningWolf, a well-known Bay Area activist, said he burned the flag "to start an educated discussion among us."

morons.

Ass holes!


Yep... the asshole 99%...... hurting other 99%ers.


Good job! That will show the 1% they mean business.