Over Population.

[froggy]

Will the food supply be able to keep up?

World Birth/Death Rates (2009 est.)1

Birth Rate: Death Rate:
20 births/1,000 population 8 deaths/1,000 population
128.9 million births per year 53.4 million people die each year
353,015 births per day 146,357 people die each day
14,709 births each hour 6098 people die each hour
245 births each minute 102 people die each minute
4 births each second of every day almost 2 people die each second

 

[PoliticalChic]

Will the food supply be able to keep up?

World Birth/Death Rates (2009 est.)1

Birth Rate: Death Rate:
20 births/1,000 population 8 deaths/1,000 population
128.9 million births per year 53.4 million people die each year
353,015 births per day 146,357 people die each day
14,709 births each hour 6098 people die each hour
245 births each minute 102 people die each minute
4 births each second of every day almost 2 people die each second

MALTHUS WAS WRONG
In 1798, Thomas Malthus warned that the world's population growth would eventually outstrip the world's food supply, bringing about starvation, disease and wars. Despite continued warnings from Malthus' supporters, humanity still flourishes.

John Downen of the Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment argues that growth and managing the world's resources are not mutually exclusive, as evidenced by current population trends:

The United Nations estimates that the world's population will peak at about 9 billion by 2075, then begin declining thereafter.
In the poorest countries, where almost all population growth occurs, the average woman has only 2.9 children today, compared to 6.2 children in the 1950s.
Additionally, fertility rates in European countries are below the replacement rate of 2.1 children per woman.
As wealth increases and women become more educated, they tend to have fewer children. Furthermore, the world is not running out of resources, says Downen
According to Downen, human ingenuity and technological advances allow societies to find better, more efficient ways of using resources, and a free market is the best way to foster such innovation.
MALTHUS WAS WRONG

 

[froggy]

Will the food supply be able to keep up?

World Birth/Death Rates (2009 est.)1

Birth Rate: Death Rate:
20 births/1,000 population 8 deaths/1,000 population
128.9 million births per year 53.4 million people die each year
353,015 births per day 146,357 people die each day
14,709 births each hour 6098 people die each hour
245 births each minute 102 people die each minute
4 births each second of every day almost 2 people die each second

MALTHUS WAS WRONG
In 1798, Thomas Malthus warned that the world's population growth would eventually outstrip the world's food supply, bringing about starvation, disease and wars. Despite continued warnings from Malthus' supporters, humanity still flourishes.

John Downen of the Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment argues that growth and managing the world's resources are not mutually exclusive, as evidenced by current population trends:

The United Nations estimates that the world's population will peak at about 9 billion by 2075, then begin declining thereafter.
In the poorest countries, where almost all population growth occurs, the average woman has only 2.9 children today, compared to 6.2 children in the 1950s.
Additionally, fertility rates in European countries are below the replacement rate of 2.1 children per woman.
As wealth increases and women become more educated, they tend to have fewer children. Furthermore, the world is not running out of resources, says Downen
According to Downen, human ingenuity and technological advances allow societies to find better, more efficient ways of using resources, and a free market is the best way to foster such innovation.
MALTHUS WAS WRONG

But since some farm land has been aimed at raising crops for fuel, will that change?

 

[Oddball]

Will the food supply be able to keep up?

World Birth/Death Rates (2009 est.)1

Birth Rate: Death Rate:
20 births/1,000 population 8 deaths/1,000 population
128.9 million births per year 53.4 million people die each year
353,015 births per day 146,357 people die each day
14,709 births each hour 6098 people die each hour
245 births each minute 102 people die each minute
4 births each second of every day almost 2 people die each second

MALTHUS WAS WRONG

So was Paul Eherlich.

 

[tommywho70x]

garrett hardin wasn't mistaken

 

[PoliticalChic]

garrett hardin wasn't mistaken

Welcome to the board.

Based on your post, I guess you believed in Chicken Little, too.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Will the food supply be able to keep up?

World Birth/Death Rates (2009 est.)1

Birth Rate: Death Rate:
20 births/1,000 population 8 deaths/1,000 population
128.9 million births per year 53.4 million people die each year
353,015 births per day 146,357 people die each day
14,709 births each hour 6098 people die each hour
245 births each minute 102 people die each minute
4 births each second of every day almost 2 people die each second

MALTHUS WAS WRONG
In 1798, Thomas Malthus warned that the world's population growth would eventually outstrip the world's food supply, bringing about starvation, disease and wars. Despite continued warnings from Malthus' supporters, humanity still flourishes.

John Downen of the Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment argues that growth and managing the world's resources are not mutually exclusive, as evidenced by current population trends:

The United Nations estimates that the world's population will peak at about 9 billion by 2075, then begin declining thereafter.
In the poorest countries, where almost all population growth occurs, the average woman has only 2.9 children today, compared to 6.2 children in the 1950s.
Additionally, fertility rates in European countries are below the replacement rate of 2.1 children per woman.
As wealth increases and women become more educated, they tend to have fewer children. Furthermore, the world is not running out of resources, says Downen
According to Downen, human ingenuity and technological advances allow societies to find better, more efficient ways of using resources, and a free market is the best way to foster such innovation.
MALTHUS WAS WRONG

But since some farm land has been aimed at raising crops for fuel, will that change?

Here is the operative sentence: "As wealth increases and women become more educated, they tend to have fewer children..."

As you probably know, selfishness rules, especially as a society becomes more wealthy. Thus the precipitous drop in replacement rates in so many countries.

 

[boedicca]

Yes, the bigger issue is under population for most developed nations.

The replacement birth rate (to just keep population stable), is 2.1 live births per woman. The U.S. at 2.05 is slightly under that rate due to immigrants. Our neighbor to the north is 1.58, a sign of serious trouble.

Japan is at 1.2 - which is a death spiral, literally for the country.

Much of Europe is below the replacement rate as well - which makes the Muslim immigrant problem worse. The immigrants are far more fertile, not assimilating, and intent on "reforming" those countries toward Sharia Law.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2127rank.html

 

[tommywho70x]

garrett hardin wasn't mistaken

Welcome to the board.

Based on your post, I guess you believed in Chicken Little, too.

what has chicken little got to do with garrett hardin?

 

[boedicca]

Hello? He claimed that giving food to starving Africans would make the overpopulation problem worse.

Hateful.

He was pretty much the opposite of this wonderful man:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Borlaug

 

[PoliticalChic]

garrett hardin wasn't mistaken

Welcome to the board.

Based on your post, I guess you believed in Chicken Little, too.

what has chicken little got to do with garrett hardin?

"A major focus of his career, and one to which he returned repeatedly, was the issue of human overpopulation."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_Hardin

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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you're a John Holdrin fan as well.

 

[tommywho70x]

Welcome to the board.

Based on your post, I guess you believed in Chicken Little, too.

what has chicken little got to do with garrett hardin?

"A major focus of his career, and one to which he returned repeatedly, was the issue of human overpopulation."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_Hardin

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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you're a John Holdrin fan as well.

my college class held its 30th reunion two years ago. my degree is in marine science and i remember hardin's writing to be much less alarmist and seemingly more soundly based on ecological principles than people like ehrlich.

never even heard of john holdrin.

 

[froggy]

MALTHUS WAS WRONG
In 1798, Thomas Malthus warned that the world's population growth would eventually outstrip the world's food supply, bringing about starvation, disease and wars. Despite continued warnings from Malthus' supporters, humanity still flourishes.

John Downen of the Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment argues that growth and managing the world's resources are not mutually exclusive, as evidenced by current population trends:

The United Nations estimates that the world's population will peak at about 9 billion by 2075, then begin declining thereafter.
In the poorest countries, where almost all population growth occurs, the average woman has only 2.9 children today, compared to 6.2 children in the 1950s.
Additionally, fertility rates in European countries are below the replacement rate of 2.1 children per woman.
As wealth increases and women become more educated, they tend to have fewer children. Furthermore, the world is not running out of resources, says Downen
According to Downen, human ingenuity and technological advances allow societies to find better, more efficient ways of using resources, and a free market is the best way to foster such innovation.
MALTHUS WAS WRONG

But since some farm land has been aimed at raising crops for fuel, will that change?

Here is the operative sentence: "As wealth increases and women become more educated, they tend to have fewer children..."

As you probably know, selfishness rules, especially as a society becomes more wealthy. Thus the precipitous drop in replacement rates in so many countries.

Usually children come when women are young and dumb, not rich and flouting.

 

[froggy]

China 1,323,591,583
India 1,156,897,766
United States 307,212,123
Indonesia 240,271,522
Brazil 198,739,269
Pakistan 174,578,558
Bangladesh 156,050,883
Nigeria 149,229,090
Russia 140,041,247
Japan 127,078,679
Source: U.S. Census Bureau, International Data Base

Ten Largest Countries in Population

 

[froggy]

Estimated births per day 345,600. Estimated deaths per day 192,000, do the math

 

[boedicca]

Great! More people - more productivity (if they live in a country with a vibrant economy and opportunity).

 

[GHook93]

I agree with that. But look at the population growth in the last 58 years its insane. The growth the last 58 years is greater than the entire human history of growth! Soylent Green could be a a reality one day!

Year....Population......Increase
1750..............700 mil
1850..............1.2 Bil......................500 mil
1900..............1.65 Bil....................450 mil
1950..............2.5 Bil......................850 mil (note: This period saw the world 2 bloodest wars)
2008..............6.7 Bil......................4.2 Bil (That is an insane increase!)

World population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Note: I hate using just wikipedia, but in this case I got lazy!

Will the food supply be able to keep up?

World Birth/Death Rates (2009 est.)1

Birth Rate: Death Rate:
20 births/1,000 population 8 deaths/1,000 population
128.9 million births per year 53.4 million people die each year
353,015 births per day 146,357 people die each day
14,709 births each hour 6098 people die each hour
245 births each minute 102 people die each minute
4 births each second of every day almost 2 people die each second

MALTHUS WAS WRONG
In 1798, Thomas Malthus warned that the world's population growth would eventually outstrip the world's food supply, bringing about starvation, disease and wars. Despite continued warnings from Malthus' supporters, humanity still flourishes.

John Downen of the Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment argues that growth and managing the world's resources are not mutually exclusive, as evidenced by current population trends:

The United Nations estimates that the world's population will peak at about 9 billion by 2075, then begin declining thereafter.
In the poorest countries, where almost all population growth occurs, the average woman has only 2.9 children today, compared to 6.2 children in the 1950s.
Additionally, fertility rates in European countries are below the replacement rate of 2.1 children per woman.
As wealth increases and women become more educated, they tend to have fewer children. Furthermore, the world is not running out of resources, says Downen
According to Downen, human ingenuity and technological advances allow societies to find better, more efficient ways of using resources, and a free market is the best way to foster such innovation.
MALTHUS WAS WRONG

 

[GHook93]

Yes, the bigger issue is under population for most developed nations.

The replacement birth rate (to just keep population stable), is 2.1 live births per woman. The U.S. at 2.05 is slightly under that rate due to immigrants. Our neighbor to the north is 1.58, a sign of serious trouble.

Japan is at 1.2 - which is a death spiral, literally for the country.

Much of Europe is below the replacement rate as well - which makes the Muslim immigrant problem worse. The immigrants are far more fertile, not assimilating, and intent on "reforming" those countries toward Sharia Law.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2127rank.html

I do believe Russia is at 0.9!!!

 

[froggy]

Yes, the bigger issue is under population for most developed nations.

The replacement birth rate (to just keep population stable), is 2.1 live births per woman. The U.S. at 2.05 is slightly under that rate due to immigrants. Our neighbor to the north is 1.58, a sign of serious trouble.

Japan is at 1.2 - which is a death spiral, literally for the country.

Much of Europe is below the replacement rate as well - which makes the Muslim immigrant problem worse. The immigrants are far more fertile, not assimilating, and intent on "reforming" those countries toward Sharia Law.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2127rank.html

I do believe Russia is at 0.9!!!

Russia 140,041,247 and growing.

 

[GHook93]

China 1,323,591,583
India 1,156,897,766
United States 307,212,123
Indonesia 240,271,522
Brazil 198,739,269
Pakistan 174,578,558
Bangladesh 156,050,883
Nigeria 149,229,090
Russia 140,041,247
Japan 127,078,679
Source: U.S. Census Bureau, International Data Base

Ten Largest Countries in Population

Note: I believe China, Russia (forsure) and Japan have all decreased in the last 10 years