Over 40 million americans living in extreme poverty.

So if they do advance themselves, do make better decisions, do put forth more effort they will still be in "extreme poverty"??

:cuckoo:

The majority of families living in poverty and in low income families in America have at least one working adult. Many of them have two working adults.

You want to try again to explain the rising percentages of poverty DD?
 
The majority of families living in poverty and in low income families in America have at least one working adult. Many of them have two working adults.

You want to try again to explain the rising percentages of poverty DD?

Because poverty is not about others not paying to get people out of poverty... poverty is about even less of a sense of personal responsibility...

I had a grandfather with an 8th grade education... but a man who continually bettered himself and did whatever the fuck he had to do, including working 2 and 3 jobs to make sure his family was taken care of.... now,you have more people bitching that their fry jockey job does not pay them enough to live comfortably and support a family with satellite TV, microwave popcorn, and new designer Nikes....

Rising percentages of poverty have coincided with the rising percentage of people believing in owed entitlement... waiting for someone else to take care of their personal needs, and whining and complaining until they get it... there will always be some very few people who truly CANNOT take care of themselves... but the majority in poverty simply WILL NOT take care of themselves, even though they are quite capable of doing so if they really chose to
 
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It is a UN calculation ...which considers the cost of living in the particular nation and the income of those people.

Although the cost of living is pretty low in the US... the wages are also extremely low....

Also healthcare is so appalling in the US... like a nightmare scenario that fortunately would never occur in Europe...where we have some sense of decency and justice.

The UN, huh? That tells me all I need to know. They probably evaluate cost of living in Beverly Hills and compare it to the rest of the country. Post a link. I'd just love to read their study.
 
I heard the number is closer to 500 million. That's why we need to elect Barack Obama now so he can raise taxes and pay for all kinds of government programs that will get rid poverty once and for all!

hear, hear!
i propose michael as barack's HUD secretary. he's obviously the man for the job.
 
Why is that?

Easy .. because Americans don't give a fuck about poor people.

Yes, we love Jesus .. Americans are a kind and generous people .. we are the shining light on the hill and an example to all the world .. oh yes, we love Jesus.

That's what Snow White's mirror tells us .. but the reflection in the real mirror tells a far different story and looks like a monster.

We just mass-murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people .. just because we could .. but that doesn't show up in Snow White's mirror .. nor the fact that we don't give a damn about poor people .. or Jesus for that matter.
 
Michealcollins has another leftwing defender. Who would of thunk it.

He is from England and so the question is VALID. His entire point is to bash America so the question is VALID and on point. Pull your head out of your ass and pay attention.

The question is VALID because it's the truth.

If looking out the window makes you feel better .. I do understand.
 
Easy .. because Americans don't give a fuck about poor people.

Yes, we love Jesus .. Americans are a kind and generous people .. we are the shining light on the hill and an example to all the world .. oh yes, we love Jesus.

That's what Snow White's mirror tells us .. but the reflection in the real mirror tells a far different story and looks like a monster.

We just mass-murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people .. just because we could .. but that doesn't show up in Snow White's mirror .. nor the fact that we don't give a damn about poor people .. or Jesus for that matter.




Sounds like you been sitting in Jeramiah Wrighteousness' pews.
 
The Poverty Epidemic in America, by the Numbers
April 24, 2007

America is the richest nation in the world, yet 37 million Americans live below the official poverty line and millions more struggle to get by every month.

A poverty epidemic

37 million: Number of Americans who live below the official poverty line—12.6 percent of the total population. Millions more struggle to get by.

36.5 million: Population of California, America’s most populous state

5 million: Number of Americans who are poor today who weren’t in 2000

8 million: Number of Americans who live in neighborhoods of concentrated poverty where at least 40 percent of residents are poor

1 in 8: Proportion of Americans who now live in poverty

1 in 3: Proportion of Americans who are considered low-income

25: Percentage of all workers who were in jobs for which year-round full-time work would not pay enough to keep a family of four above the poverty threshold

1 in 5: Proportion of children who are poor, or 17.6 percent

42: Percentage of children born in the bottom income quintile who will remain in that quintile as adults

6: Percentage of children born in the bottom income quintile who will reach the top quintile as adults

1: Percentage of children from low-income families who will reach the top five percent of the income distribution

22: Percentage of children from wealthy families who will reach the top five percent of the income distribution

19: Percentage of children in poverty who lack health insurance, compared to 11.2 percent of children above poverty

$500 billion: Persistent childhood poverty’s estimated cost to the nation each year because of lost adult productivity and wages, increased crime, and higher health expenditures

Poverty by the Numbers

.. and all those numbers have gotten worse in the last year and Americans living in poverty has reached over 16% .. and rising .. fast
 
And again... your personal responsibility to earn and take care of yourself is your issue.... as the mantra of entitlement has been pushed forward, the more and more you have believing that someone else owes them... that it is someone else's problem they are poor or don't get the compensation they think they deserve
Sounds like a lot of people should have paid more attention to their education, their advancement in job skills, the decisions they have made, their choices in life, their work ethic, how seriously they take their responsibility to take care of their family, etc
 
Because poverty is not about others not paying to get people out of poverty... poverty is about even less of a sense of personal responsibility...

The above is your best reponse about families which are working who are sliding into poverty?

I had a grandfather with an 8th grade education... but a man who continually bettered himself and did whatever the fuck he had to do, including working 2 and 3 jobs to make sure his family was taken care of.... now,you have more people bitching that their fry jockey job does not pay them enough to live comfortably and support a family with satellite TV, microwave popcorn, and new designer Nikes....

Here we go...the people are too poor because they live too well myth.

Rising percentages of poverty have coincided with the rising percentage of people believing in owed entitlement... waiting for someone else to take care of their personal needs, and whining and complaining until they get it... there will always be some very few people who truly CANNOT take care of themselves... but the majority in poverty simply WILL NOT take care of themselves, even though they are quite capable of doing so if they really chose to

So it is your theory that depite the overwhelming statistical evidence that that the lowest 60% of the population of workers have been losing purchasing power for the last thirty years, this is THEIR FAULT?

Interesting rationalization.
 
The above is your best reponse about families which are working who are sliding into poverty?



Here we go...the people are too poor because they live too well myth.



So it is your theory that depite the overwhelming statistical evidence that that the lowest 60% of the population of workers have been losing purchasing power for the last thirty years, this is THEIR FAULT?

Interesting rationalization.

You or anyone else's earnings are everyone else's fault? A person, head of household, at age 26 still making minimum wage WHY? What have they done as an able minded, able bodied person to not even be an assistant manager at Home Depot?

The overwhelming FACT is that most simply WILL NOT do what it takes... they think they are entitled to more at the expense of others, no matter how little effort they put towards their personal responsibility of taking care of themselves and their family... it is an overwhelming FACT that most below the poverty CAN take care of themselves, but simply do not. Whether that be because of poor choices, laziness, etc....
 
The above is your best reponse about families which are working who are sliding into poverty?



Here we go...the people are too poor because they live too well myth.



So it is your theory that depite the overwhelming statistical evidence that that the lowest 60% of the population of workers have been losing purchasing power for the last thirty years, this is THEIR FAULT?

Interesting rationalization.

Damn .. you beat me to it :eusa_angel:
 
None of the 40 million work? That is a partisan statment backed up without any data and a troll like response.

Actually, it's pretty easy to assume that most of the people living in poverty don't want to work or don't want to work MORE. How do I make such a claim? Easy, by comparing to the unemployment rate.

The current unemployment rate is 6.1%, but that means 6.1% of of the WORKING FORCE is unemployed. People not looking for jobs or who are under 18 are not included when calculating unemployment. The current number of unemployed workers or people unsatisfied with their work who are actively seeking employment is estimated at 9.5 million people.

There are 39.4 million people in America living below the poverty line, 12.9 million of which are children. So 26.5 million adults live below the poverty line, and only 9.5 million of them are seeking a job or a better job.

Apparently, only 65% of those in poverty are trying to do anything about it.
 

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