Orion program deep into production, processing and testing for EFT-1

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    Orion program deep into production, processing and testing for EFT-1
    Click here for Orion articles: Orion | NASASpaceFlight.com
    Orion program deep into production, processing and testing for EFT-1 | NASASpaceFlight.com

    Why does it take to 2020 to have a man mission on one of these?
     
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    NASA Completes Another Orion Parachute Testby Staff Writers
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    NASA Completes Another Orion Parachute Test
     
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    Safety first.

    An "oops" on earth is a "Holy Shit We Are All Going Two Die!!" in space.
     
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    From 1960-1969, we went from launching the first man into space to the moon.(Mercury to Appolo). This nation is really starting to fall behind the rest of the world. :eusa_boohoo: China and Russia currently have more ability to get into space. Russia and the EU both have equal jet fighters in ability(euro-fighter). I'd hate russia slipping their new one to china in case of a war. :eusa_silenced: Competes with the f-22.

    India and Japan are advancing their programs too. We sure as hell won't have the most advance military on this planet in 10 years if we don't put more money into our technology programs like Drapa, nasa, JPL, ect. We DO NOT want China to get the military tech edge on us with their industry. They might kick our fucking ass. :eusa_shhh:
     
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    matthew, don't be silly...it would take all other countries another 100 years before they could ever match our military might............we spend more than the whole world combined on our Defense Budget.
     
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    Russia tried to out produce us

    and lost, big time

    If china tries the same, the results will be the same.

    communism and socialism cannot out work capitalism, no matter how cheap the labor or how much money they spend.

    Did you know that russias military was much much larger?
     
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    As of now. In the future China has an ever increasing economy(second biggest on earth) that could shift a large part of their gdp towards their military to match ours. They have a huge industry and a population that loves to builds things.

    Size doesn't really matter as iraq had a pretty big military. Technology has an ever increasing importance.

    I think it is best we make peace with the Chinese.:eusa_boohoo:
     
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    1000 years ago China had the 2nd biggest economy on earth.
    2000 years ago China had the 2nd largest economy on Earth

    and now China has the second economy on Earth....

    they haven't moved up the ladder to first and never have held first in 2000 years...their infrastructure and communism gets in the way, I suppose?

    It ain't gonna happen Matthew....we may reach bottom on all other categories, but our military and defense won't be one of them...the world has a very very very very long way to go, to EVER catch up with us....
     
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    Not if they steal our technology like China does frequently.
     
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    If we get into a war with China. Russia may hand them the designs or this.

    Russia's new fighter
    Sukhoi PAK FA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Performance

    Maximum speed: Mach 2+, 2,100-2,600 km/h[95][97][99] (1,300-1,560 mph) ; at 17,000 m (45,000 ft) altitude
    Cruise speed: 1,300-1,800 km/h[97] (808-1,118 mph)
    Ferry range: 5,500 km[61] (3,417 mi)
    Service ceiling: 20,000 m (65,600 ft)
    Rate of climb: 350 m/s (68,900 ft/min)
    Wing loading: 330-470 kg/m2 (67-96 lb/ft2)
    Thrust/weight: 1.19[95]

    Maximum g-load: 9+ g[95]

    Heres our best---The f-22 Raptor
    Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Performance

    Maximum speed:

    At altitude: Mach 2.25 (1,500 mph, 2,410 km/h) [estimated][140]
    Supercruise: Mach 1.82 (1,220 mph, 1,963 km/h)[140]
    Range: >1,600 nmi (1,840 mi, 2,960 km) with 2 external fuel tanks
    Combat radius: 410 nmi (with 100 nmi in supercruise) [304] (471 mi, 759 km)
    Ferry range: 2,000 mi (1,738 nmi, 3,219 km)
    Service ceiling: 65,000 ft (Currently restricted to 44,000 ft, sans vests)[309] (19,812 m)
    Wing loading: 77 lb/ft² (375 kg/m²)
    Thrust/weight: 1.09 (1.26 with loaded weight & 50% fuel)

    Maximum design g-load: -3.0/+9.0 g[140]


    With China's industry, I could see our 200 rapters being topped in a matter of weeks. This doesn't make me feel very good that their fighters can compete with ours.

    I think it's time to get out of the middle east and shift some more of our defense funding into Darpa. Maybe nasa too.
     
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