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[Red Dawn]

Remember when our friendly flat-earth climate change denialists repeatedly cited some study allegedly from the University of Illinois Arctic Climate center, that supposedly showed the extent of sea ice is the now the same now as it was in 1979? I was always suspicious of that because there was never a credible link to back it up. All we got was some link from some site that is infamous for spreading rightwing disinformation.

Well, George Will wrote a column using this rightwing talking point, and the University of Illinois says he's full of crap. There is no University of Illinois study showing sea ice rebounded to 1979 levels.

The flat earth society just made up that story out of whole cloth.

From George Will's column:

"According to the University of Illinois' Arctic Climate Research Center, global sea ice levels now equal those of 1979."

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But within hours of Will's column appearing, the University of Illinois ACRC had posted the following statement on its website:


"We do not know where George Will is getting his information, but our data shows that on February 15, 1979, global sea ice area was 16.79 million sq. km and on February 15, 2009, global sea ice area was 15.45 million sq. km. Therefore, global sea ice levels are 1.34 million sq. km less in February 2009 than in February 1979. This decrease in sea ice area is roughly equal to the area of Texas, California, and Oklahoma combined.

It is disturbing that the Washington Post would publish such information without first checking the facts."

TPMMuckraker | Talking Points Memo | Where There's a (George) Will There's A Way ... To Deny Global Warming

 

[random3434]

Hmmmmmmmmm, who owns the Washington Post Red Dawn?

 

[Red Dawn]

Hmmmmmmmmm, who owns the Washington Post Red Dawn?

LOL, rupert murdoch?


Meh, Will wrote an editorial with an obvious fabrication. The fact that will hasn't corrected the record shows that he - and most of the other flat earthers - don't care about the science. They are propagandists.

 

[random3434]

Hmmmmmmmmm, who owns the Washington Post Red Dawn?

LOL, rupert murdoch?


Meh, Will wrote an editorial with an obvious fabrication. The fact that will hasn't corrected the record shows that he - and most of the other flat earthers - don't care about the science. They are propagandists.

Maybe next he can write about the dinosaurs living with Romans!

 

[Red Dawn]

Hmmmmmmmmm, who owns the Washington Post Red Dawn?

LOL, rupert murdoch?


Meh, Will wrote an editorial with an obvious fabrication. The fact that will hasn't corrected the record shows that he - and most of the other flat earthers - don't care about the science. They are propagandists.

Maybe next he can write about the dinosaurs living with Romans!

awesome!

Isn't that what sarah palin believed, that dinosaurs roamed the planet with humans?

The right wing: they'd be cute if they weren't so dangerous for the rest of us!

 

[manu1959]

didn't some one post a link here that the calibration on the device measuring ice was busted and the size of the error was.............roughly equal to the area of california......

 

[Red Dawn]

didn't some one post a link here that the calibration on the device measuring ice was busted and the size of the error was.............roughly equal to the area of california......

I'll give this a 2 out of 10 for diversion attempt.


Your flat earth buddies have spent the past month saying that the University of Illinois allegedly reported that sea ice is the same now as it was in 1979.

The University of Illinois has put out a public statement that that's not true, and they have no idea where flat earthers came up with that.

It was fabricated. And I predict not a single flat earther will appear in this thread to admit they were pushing a fabrication for the last month.

 

[Anguille]

awesome!

Isn't that what sarah palin believed, that dinosaurs roamed the planet with humans?

The right wing: they'd be cute if they weren't so dangerous for the rest of us!

She was right.

example : RetiredGaySargeantosaurus

 

[manu1959]

didn't some one post a link here that the calibration on the device measuring ice was busted and the size of the error was.............roughly equal to the area of california......

I'll give this a 2 out of 10 for diversion attempt.


Your flat earth buddies have spent the past month saying that the University of Illinois allegedly reported that sea ice is the same now as it was in 1979.

The University of Illinois has put out a public statement that that's not true, and they have no idea where flat earthers came up with that.

It was fabricated. And I predict not a single flat earther will appear in this thread to admit they were pushing a fabrication for the last month.

so the ice measuring folks didn't have a faulty sensor in their equipment....

interesting i could have sworn this happened.....

Bloomberg.com: News

NSIDC: satellite sea ice sensor has “catastrophic failure” - data faulty for the last 45 or more days « Watts Up With That?

 

[Old Rocks]

Yes, they did have an equipment failure. And immediatly upon realizing it, published that that was the case. Unlike you wingnuts that just continue to state the same lies even when they have been proven to be a lie. An equipment failure is a far differant matter than deliberate lies.

 

[Chris]

Yes, they did have an equipment failure. And immediatly upon realizing it, published that that was the case. Unlike you wingnuts that just continue to state the same lies even when they have been proven to be a lie. An equipment failure is a far differant matter than deliberate lies.

Damn liberal satellites!

 

[Red Dawn]

Still no comment for the USMB flat earth society?

Look, you dudes spent the last month patting yourself on the back and spiking the ball in the end zone, when you posted that supposedly the University of Illinois reported that sea ice was the same today in 1979.

You posted a fabrication. The University of Illinois says they never reported that.

Will you flat earthers come back and admit your were posting fabrications?

 

[Anguille]

Not till Flat Hell freezes over!!

 

[Amanda]

I don't get what you're celebrating here, but then again I wasn't part of whatever was said before. I'm getting that some evidence turned out to be false? That happens and you can't really blame media people like Will for believing it was real, can you? It happens both ways, just ask Dan Rather.

I don't get the mean-spirted nyay nyay nyay tone of the thread. Are you demonstrating liberal values with your behavior? Seriously, think about it. Talking about being kind and inclusive etc etc is all great talk, but it's the mean-spiritedness that's the louder message because it's what you're actually doing. When it comes to Liberal values I think they are fine ideals. I disagree with the approach but I can respect the point of view. Now I'm just waiting to find a liberal that actually lives the values. None in this thread.

 

[jillian]

Actually, you *can* blame people for making up things. The fact that others repeat it as true even in the face of all evidence to the contrary is secondary.

 

[Anguille]

I don't get what you're celebrating here, but then again I wasn't part of whatever was said before. I'm getting that some evidence turned out to be false? That happens and you can't really blame media people like Will for believing it was real, can you? It happens both ways, just ask Dan Rather.

I don't get the mean-spirted nyay nyay nyay tone of the thread. Are you demonstrating liberal values with your behavior? Seriously, think about it. Talking about being kind and inclusive etc etc is all great talk, but it's the mean-spiritedness that's the louder message because it's what you're actually doing. When it comes to Liberal values I think they are fine ideals. I disagree with the approach but I can respect the point of view. Now I'm just waiting to find a liberal that actually lives the values. None in this thread.

If you think these, what you call, "Liberal values" are fine ideals, why not try embracing them and be inclusive of Liberals who don't.

 

[Diuretic]

Hmmmmmmmmm, who owns the Washington Post Red Dawn?

LOL, rupert murdoch?


Meh, Will wrote an editorial with an obvious fabrication. The fact that will hasn't corrected the record shows that he - and most of the other flat earthers - don't care about the science. They are propagandists.

Maybe next he can write about the dinosaurs living with Romans!

Okay then Ms Smartypants, if dinosaurs didn't live with Romans, then how come they've all got Latin names? Hmmmmm? Get out of THAT one!

 

[Truthmatters]

Lol

 

[Diuretic]

The poor old flat-earthers, they hit that bloody big iceberg called "fact" and sink every time they try and make science malleable and a matter of opinion. Isn't that the definition of true stupidity? You know, trying something, finding out it's wrong, then trying it again to see if you get a different result this time?

 

[Red Dawn]

LOL, rupert murdoch?


Meh, Will wrote an editorial with an obvious fabrication. The fact that will hasn't corrected the record shows that he - and most of the other flat earthers - don't care about the science. They are propagandists.

Maybe next he can write about the dinosaurs living with Romans!

Okay then Ms Smartypants, if dinosaurs didn't live with Romans, then how come they've all got Latin names? Hmmmmm? Get out of THAT one!

Fool!!!

Of course humans lived with dinosaurs.

The "Creation Science Museum" in Ohio (and Sarah Palin too!) prove it!

Creation Science Museum: