Only this administration could call THIS a victory.

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Doesn't matter. The Constitutional doesn't define enemy combatants.

Exactly. Therefore it's unconstitutional for the government to declare anybody an enemy combatant.

 

[Revere]

Doesn't matter. The Constitutional doesn't define enemy combatants.

Exactly. Therefore it's unconstitutional for the government to declare anybody an enemy combatant.

Bullshit. The Constitution does not deal with the prosecution of foreign nationals abroad.

You can ram Predator Drones up their asses every day without trying them if you want.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Doesn't matter. The Constitutional doesn't define enemy combatants.

Exactly. Therefore it's unconstitutional for the government to declare anybody an enemy combatant.

Bullshit. The Constitution does not deal with the prosecution of foreign nationals abroad.

You can ram Predator Drones up their asses every day without trying them if you want.

That's incorrect. If the Constitution doesn't "deal" with an issue then the government is not authorized to do it. That's how the Constitution works.

 

[Revere]

It doesn't deal with it. It only deals with it if you lack the sense to bring them on to US soil and try them here.

If you shoot them in the head in the field, or blow up their mud huts with Predator Drones, those are strictly international law isssues.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

It doesn't deal with it. It only deals with it if you lack the sense to bring them on to US soil and try them here.

If you shoot them in the head in the field, or blow up their mud huts with Predator Drones, those are strictly international law isssues.

The Constitution doesn't "deal" with Obamacare so using your logic Obamacare must be good too.

 

[uscitizen]

Rules are a bit different in a DECLARED war.

what difference does it make if it's declared or not?

In my opinion US troops should not be used for combat on foreign soild with an official declaration of war.
I suspect the founding fathers felt the same way.

 

[Revere]

It doesn't deal with it. It only deals with it if you lack the sense to bring them on to US soil and try them here.

If you shoot them in the head in the field, or blow up their mud huts with Predator Drones, those are strictly international law isssues.

The Constitution doesn't "deal" with Obamacare so using your logic Obamacare must be good too.

The Constitution affords US persons rights, whether citizens or not. Those rights don't extend to persons not on US soil.

If Obama is stupid enough to bring enemy combatants on US soil, that's his problem.

 

[elvis]

Rules are a bit different in a DECLARED war.

what difference does it make if it's declared or not?

In my opinion US troops should not be used for combat on foreign soild with an official declaration of war.
I suspect the founding fathers felt the same way.

but why do the rules change once war is declared? Since Germany declared war on Poland and Russia, they had the right to slaughter everyone they thought was a threat to their security? We know who they saw as "enemy combatants".

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

It doesn't deal with it. It only deals with it if you lack the sense to bring them on to US soil and try them here.

If you shoot them in the head in the field, or blow up their mud huts with Predator Drones, those are strictly international law isssues.

The Constitution doesn't "deal" with Obamacare so using your logic Obamacare must be good too.

The Constitution affords US persons rights, whether citizens or not. Those rights don't extend to persons not on US soil.

If Obama is stupid enough to bring enemy combatants on US soil, that's his problem.

Under that interpretation of the Constitution the U.S. government would have the authority to murder any person anywhere at any time, so long as they're not in the U.S. itself. That's ridiculous.

 

[Revere]

Barack Obama doesn't give a rat's ass about whether these guys go to prison, or for how long. He'll be long gone by them.

He's an egomaniacal fuckwad who wants to remake US justice to make his adoring public abroad approve of him.

 

[Revere]

The Constitution doesn't "deal" with Obamacare so using your logic Obamacare must be good too.

The Constitution affords US persons rights, whether citizens or not. Those rights don't extend to persons not on US soil.

If Obama is stupid enough to bring enemy combatants on US soil, that's his problem.

Under that interpretation of the Constitution the U.S. government would have the authority to murder any person anywhere at any time, so long as they're not in the U.S. itself. That's ridiculous.

The Constitution does not afford non-US persons rights, yes.

Uh, yeah. It's called war. For those of you who think war has to be declared, it's called congressional authority to prosecute hostile action abroad.

 

[elvis]

The Constitution affords US persons rights, whether citizens or not. Those rights don't extend to persons not on US soil.

If Obama is stupid enough to bring enemy combatants on US soil, that's his problem.

Under that interpretation of the Constitution the U.S. government would have the authority to murder any person anywhere at any time, so long as they're not in the U.S. itself. That's ridiculous.

Uh, yeah. It's called war. For those of you who think war has to be declared, it's called congressional authority to prosecute hostile action abroad.

he'll say that's unconstitutional, too.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

The Constitution affords US persons rights, whether citizens or not. Those rights don't extend to persons not on US soil.

If Obama is stupid enough to bring enemy combatants on US soil, that's his problem.

Under that interpretation of the Constitution the U.S. government would have the authority to murder any person anywhere at any time, so long as they're not in the U.S. itself. That's ridiculous.

The Constitution does not afford non-US persons rights, yes.

Uh, yeah. It's called war. For those of you who think war has to be declared, it's called congressional authority to prosecute hostile action abroad.

That's unconstitutional, too.

 

[Revere]

Under that interpretation of the Constitution the U.S. government would have the authority to murder any person anywhere at any time, so long as they're not in the U.S. itself. That's ridiculous.

Uh, yeah. It's called war. For those of you who think war has to be declared, it's called congressional authority to prosecute hostile action abroad.

he'll say that's unconstitutional, too.

I edited it, because I know the taffy pull about declared war or not is just around the corner.

 

[Revere]

Under that interpretation of the Constitution the U.S. government would have the authority to murder any person anywhere at any time, so long as they're not in the U.S. itself. That's ridiculous.

The Constitution does not afford non-US persons rights, yes.

Uh, yeah. It's called war. For those of you who think war has to be declared, it's called congressional authority to prosecute hostile action abroad.

That's unconstitutional, too.

Really? Every military action abroad is unconstitutional?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

The Constitution does not afford non-US persons rights, yes.

Uh, yeah. It's called war. For those of you who think war has to be declared, it's called congressional authority to prosecute hostile action abroad.

That's unconstitutional, too.

Really? Every military action abroad is unconstitutional?

Every one since WW2.

 

[Revere]

What are the "Constitutional" rights of OBL? KSM? The Imam in Yemen Obama wants whacked, whatever his name is?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

What are the "Constitutional" rights of OBL? KSM? The Imam in Yemen Obama wants whacked, whatever his name is?

Well since their crimes are against the United States they have a constitutional right to a trial by jury. They have this right because the Constitution does not specify that the U.S. government can try them in any other way.

 

[uscitizen]

The Constitution affords US persons rights, whether citizens or not. Those rights don't extend to persons not on US soil.

If Obama is stupid enough to bring enemy combatants on US soil, that's his problem.

Under that interpretation of the Constitution the U.S. government would have the authority to murder any person anywhere at any time, so long as they're not in the U.S. itself. That's ridiculous.

The Constitution does not afford non-US persons rights, yes.

Uh, yeah. It's called war. For those of you who think war has to be declared, it's called congressional authority to prosecute hostile action abroad.

And where is that power granted to congress by the constitution?

 

[uscitizen]

Morons think that the constituion only is against what they are against.