Only 53% Say Capitalism Better than Socialism

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    Come on, capitalism!
     
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    I would like to know how the questions were asked. Those are staggering numbers.
     
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    The Nanny State is almost complete. I had hoped the Entitlement Generation wasn't above 30%, but it was not to be. Each year it gets higher and higher. Eventually, we'll have too many "socialistic thinkers" to live free.
     
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    Slowly becoming a George Orwell novel D:
     
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    Sheez, we need to raise the voting age.
     
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    What will they do when there is nobody left to feed off of?
     
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    There's nothing wrong with capitalism. It's just that the GOP is more interested in establishing an oligarchy than in preserving the Republic. Their notion of unregulated free-markets presupposes a rational society...which we clearly lack.
     
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    But the GOP is as much of interventionist as the Democrats... as Bush has plainly proven. The batch of Republicans we've seen recently wouldn't know free markets if it hit them in the head. The control of our money supply, by a central bank, is the anti-thesis to a free market. Think of how many wars were funded by the notion that the federal government can print any amount of money whenever it wants. Iraq, itself, wouldn't have been invaded if there was no money to be printed to fund it. The invasion of our privacy, through spying, wouldn't happen, again, without a central bank printing the money to fund it. Think of the hundreds of millions that have died in wars as a result of the command economy last century. Think of the millions that live in poverty because of the inflation produced by a command economy. Command economies should remain an unfortunate relic of the past, but it seems, we are eager to regress to a point in time where our King decides who can own property, what we are to do with our property, and how we are to make a living. In essence, we haven't had free markets since 1913, and only sparingly before then.

    Now a gold standard has it's shortcomings. But it's certainly a lot better than what we have currently. Although, there have been times where dictators have done away with the standard, in order to pursue war (i.e. Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, etc), it does restrain government power a lot better than the last 35 years of fiat has shown.

    Rationality has nothing to do with freedom. Every person will act differently, spend or save differently, and that's assumed in a free society. There isn't a mold every person should fit into. In my eyes, anyone that supports economic regulations, if were to remain consistent on their belief government can control its subjects like the days of monarchies, must believe that regulations of their private behavior is acceptable as well.

    The dictator would surely say, "Speech must be regulated! Press must be regulated! Right to protest must be regulated! Privacy must be regulated! And, lastly, property must be regulated!" For some bizarre reason, property regulations are deemed okay, despite it being the most regressive and intrusive regulation of them all (I'd rather be able to eat than be able to do things privately, slightly), yet any infringement of the other freedoms we have are quick to draw the ire of the bulk of our population, as they should. But in actuality, there is no difference between economic freedom and civil freedom. You can't have a free republic without unregulated, undisturbed, free markets. It's impossible. If you want your leaders to control property, you are submitting to them the most awesome and ultimate power, and that is not how you achieve freedom. The best option is to let the individuals control their destiny, of course, through the unregulated free-market.
     
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    Socialism defined- government control of the production and distribution of goods. In other words spreading your wealth to others.

    Capitalism defined- economic system of private ownership of capital.

    I think that this poll demonstrates that people really don't understand what socialism is, because if they did they certainly would not think that it is anywhere near as good as capitalism.

    In the end socialism punishes success and rewards failure, capitalism rewards success and punishes failure.

    Margaret Thacther, " Socialism works fine until you run out of other people's money."
     
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    This poll is stupid, and you are correct. When most people think of socialism, they think of European countries and their policies. While European countries do spread the wealth to a greater degree than happens in the US, they are not socialist. They do have more government run programs and higher taxes, but free enterprise is still the main driving force of their economies.

    The only real difference between the US and most of Europe is that those governments offer some type of national healthcare as does Canada. Does anyone here think Canada is a socialist country? I sure don't. Now there are very valid arguments for and against national healthcare, but having it does not make a country socialist.
     

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