Only 4.7% Of Americans Believe The U.s. Government Perpetrated The 9/11 Attacks

[eots]

You mean the post where I proved that the popular mechanics magazine had a lot of experts such as professors, scientists, and engineers?



You didnt cherry pick? Please. You looked over the most credible people and chose the people with the least amount of experience. Perhaps some of the writers you remarked as a silly expert just simply had something used from an article that they previously did and that is why they are on there. Again, you do not know the context in which everyone was used. Do you really think that professors of engineering know anything about a building collapse?
Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report - Popular Mechanics

ok big dickhead here we go cut and paste



here is the sum total of poular mechanics aviati9on experts

Aviation




Fred E.C. Culick, Ph.D., S.B., S.M. professor of aeronautics, California Institute of Technology
ok

Robert Everdeen public affairs, Northrop Grumman

not aviator but a PR guy

Clint Oster professor of public and environmental affairs, Indiana University;

ok thats a phd but not in a relevant field or very illustrious

Capt. Bill Scott (Ret. USAF) Rocky Mountain bureau chief, Aviation Week

a pilot and writer

Bill Uher News Media Office, NASA Langley Research Center

no a scientist or phd but a media guy

Col. Ed Walby (Ret. USAF)
director, business development, HALE Systems Enterprise, Unmanned Systems, Northrop Grumman

at least a pilot,,but nothing special

and thats it !!...now lets see aviation..ok

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Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career.

Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.



Capt. Edgar Mitchell, U.S. Navy (ret), BS Industrial Management, BS Aeronautical Engineering, Doctor of Science, Aeronautics and Astronautics from MIT – Pilot and Astronaut. Sixth man to walk on the moon (Apollo 14 mission). Patrol bomber and attack plane pilot, U.S. Navy. Test Pilot, Air Test and Evaluation Squadron 5 (VX-5). Chief of Project Management Division, Navy Field Office for the Manned Orbiting Laboratory Project. Graduated first in his class from the Aerospace Research Pilot School, and served as an instructor there. Recipient of many awards and honors including the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the USN Distinguished Medal and three NASA Group Achievement Awards. Inducted to the Space Hall of Fame in 1979 and the Astronaut Hall of Fame in 1998. Recipient of honorary doctorates in engineering from New Mexico State University, the University of Akron, Carnegie Mellon University, and a ScD from Embry-Riddle University. Founder of the Institute of Noetic Sciences.
Endorser of and proposed



Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech). Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.


Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see General Stubblebine, Colonel Nelson, Commander Muga, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. Latas, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, Barbara Honegger, April Gallop, Colonel Bunel, and Steve DeChiaro.


Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"The government conspiracy theory does not hold up to scrutiny. As a professional with over 30 years experience working with gas turbines (jet engines) and fuels - kerosene (jet fuel) does not burn in any open flame hot enough to effect steel - well under 1000 deg F. Also bogus are the explanations regarding why no planes were intercepted. SOP [Standard Operating Procedure] is they are always, always intercepted if they stray off course and/or turn off the transponder like these flights all did. No command decision needed. Has our government ever been untruthful to us?" AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 500 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." Sign the Petition

 

[Big_D]

And you say you are not cherry picking the information! Why exactly did you ONLY choose the aviation section? You just picked the ONE section out of the five. You omitted NUMEROUS professors, scientist, and people with tons of degrees. There are almost 20 people with high degrees on that site. Many of which you did not touch. And I dont mean someone with a BS or a masters. Degrees such as a P.H.D., S.B., S.M., Sc.D., and S.E.

You admit that there was Fred Culick was an expert but so are the others.

Also, wouldn't you think a Colonel and a Captain of the United States AIR FORCE would know something about aviation? They don't hand these titles out willy-nilly.

Also, Bill Uher isnt only a media guy. He is also in the NASA Langley research center. I think to get into NASA you have to know something about aviation.

You also write off Clint Oster as inexperience in this field when he is a aviation safety expert! This gentleman is also a professor at Indiana University. According to his bio at the university's website:

Professor Oster has served on seven special study committees and four expert panels for the National Academy of Science and has chaired three of those committees and one of the panels. He currently chairs the Transportation Research Board’s Committee for The Study of Traffic Safety Lessons from Benchmark Nations and recently served on TRB’s Expert Panel on the Status of U.S. Air Traffic Control Modernization. He is a member of the National Aviation Advisory Group of the U.S. Government Accountability Office and of the Aviation Network on Aviation Research and Policy for the Dutch Ministry of Transport. Dr. Oster served as Research Director for the Aviation Safety Commission in 1987-88 and is former Director of Indiana University's Transportation Research Center. He has won both graduate and undergraduate teaching awards at Indiana University. He has served as an expert witness for both the Environment and Natural Resource Division and the Antitrust Division of the U.S. Department of Justice. He has been a consultant on aviation and other transportation issues to the U.S. Department of Transportation, Federal Aviation Administration, NASA, the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, state and local governments, and private sector companies in the U.S., Canada, the United Kingdom, Russia, and Australia. He is also an accident investigator for the Indy Racing League. Professor Oster received a B.S.E. from Princeton University, an M.S. from Carnegie-Mellon University, and a Ph.D. from Harvard University.
Faculty/Research - School of Public Affairs and Environmental Sciences, IU Bloomington

According to this there he knows a thing or two about aviation.

As I have also said in the past I have also provided information for other experts on their views that correspond with the official story of 9/11.

 

[DiveCon]

I'd like Eots to find info on ANY of the guys he keeps quoting, that doesn't come from a 9/11 conspiracy nut site


and yes, that means no site connected to Alex Jones

 

[eots]

I'd like Eots to find info on ANY of the guys he keeps quoting, that doesn't come from a 9/11 conspiracy nut site


and yes, that means no site connected to Alex Jones

Well any site that does you will call a conspiracy site buy virtue of the fact that they that they report what you don't wish to hear...

 

[eots]

And you say you are not cherry picking the information! Why exactly did you ONLY choose the aviation section? You just picked the ONE section out of the five. You omitted NUMEROUS professors, scientist, and people with tons of degrees. There are almost 20 people with high degrees on that site. Many of which you did not touch. And I dont mean someone with a BS or a masters. Degrees such as a P.H.D., S.B., S.M., Sc.D., and S.E.

You admit that there was Fred Culick was an expert but so are the others.

Also, wouldn't you think a Colonel and a Captain of the United States AIR FORCE would know something about aviation? They don't hand these titles out willy-nilly.

Also, Bill Uher isnt only a media guy. He is also in the NASA Langley research center. I think to get into NASA you have to know something about aviation.

You also write off Clint Oster as inexperience in this field when he is a aviation safety expert! This gentleman is also a professor at Indiana University. According to his bio at the university's website:

Professor Oster has served on seven special study committees and four expert panels for the National Academy of Science and has chaired three of those committees and one of the panels. He currently chairs the Transportation Research Board’s Committee for The Study of Traffic Safety Lessons from Benchmark Nations and recently served on TRB’s Expert Panel on the Status of U.S. Air Traffic Control Modernization. He is a member of the National Aviation Advisory Group of the U.S. Government Accountability Office and of the Aviation Network on Aviation Research and Policy for the Dutch Ministry of Transport. Dr. Oster served as Research Director for the Aviation Safety Commission in 1987-88 and is former Director of Indiana University's Transportation Research Center. He has won both graduate and undergraduate teaching awards at Indiana University. He has served as an expert witness for both the Environment and Natural Resource Division and the Antitrust Division of the U.S. Department of Justice. He has been a consultant on aviation and other transportation issues to the U.S. Department of Transportation, Federal Aviation Administration, NASA, the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, state and local governments, and private sector companies in the U.S., Canada, the United Kingdom, Russia, and Australia. He is also an accident investigator for the Indy Racing League. Professor Oster received a B.S.E. from Princeton University, an M.S. from Carnegie-Mellon University, and a Ph.D. from Harvard University.
Faculty/Research - School of Public Affairs and Environmental Sciences, IU Bloomington

According to this there he knows a thing or two about aviation.

As I have also said in the past I have also provided information for other experts on their views that correspond with the official story of 9/11.

just man up and admit that popular mechanics and its so called experts pale in comparison to patriotsquestion 911 and those that signed the petition

 

[DiveCon]

Well any site that does you will call a conspiracy site buy virtue of the fact that they that they report what you don't wish to hear...

i've looked for info on the guys you post
only 2 have i ever found anything from them that were not truther sites
Ed Mitchell(and he had his feedback page disabled)
and one other that slips my mind
neither had anything to do with 9/11 on their personal pages
for people that feel so strongly about this, you would think they would at least have a link or something about your favorite group

 

[Big_D]

just man up and admit that popular mechanics and its so called experts pale in comparison to patriotsquestion 911 and those that signed the petition

As I have said a number of times now, Popular mechanics had numerous scientists, engineers, professors, people with very high degrees and it isn't the only one out there! This is just ONE of the sources I showed you and it consisted of 70+ individuals.

Here is are some links which shows numerous professors collaborated on papers that shows the fall of the twin towers:
http://www-math.mit.edu/~bazant/WTC/WTC-asce.pdf
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html
http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/wtc.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1540044.stm
mceer.buffalo.edu/meetings/AEI/presentations/06Mlakar-paper.pdf
http://news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2007a/070612HoffmannWTC.html

They each have a great number of people who agree it was done by terrorists.

Here are two links that show COUNTLESS professors that agree with the TRUE story of 9/11
http://www.debunking911.com/paper.htm
http://www.debunking911.com/civil.htm

If you also recall Bin Laden has confessed to this on a few occasions:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3966741.stm
http://www.chinadaily.net/english/doc/2004-10/30/content_387058.htm
http://ics.leeds.ac.uk/papers/vp01.cfm?outfit=pmt&folder=1087&paper=1088

Also, on patriots question 911 all of these people are NOT saying they agree with the 9-11 conspiracy theorists. For example, Wesley Clark is the one of the first people listed and the quote him saying that he wants the 9/11 investigation reopened. He is not saying that the govt perpetrated the attacks! I'm sure he doesnt appreciate being on that website.