Online Purchases Soon To Be Taxed Nationwide...

Et tu, Brute? Et tu?

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of Envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Sir Winston Churchill

Those pushing this who call themselves 'Conservatives', really should read this quote over & over & over again. You've lost your way. Time to get back on track. A true Conservative would never support this.

Maybe they just realize that you can balance a budget by raising revenue instead of cutting medical care for single moms.

When have democrats attempted that balance?

The answer is never.............
 
Screwed by the phony Conservatives and Socialists/Progressives again.


Small companies who want to sell their products online are in real trouble. Some Republican governors, eager to enrich their thinning state coffers, are endorsing a tax that would be imposed on products sold online.According to the National Conference of State Legislatures Strapped, states could reap as much as $23 billion in new annual revenue.

Bigger chains are happy with the move. Scott Mason, a vice president at Lowe's Cos, who noted that Lowe’s has a 5 percent to 10 percent price disadvantage compared with online rivals, exclaimed, "Having one of the most recognized and widely popular Republican leaders take this position gives other politicians comfort that the online sales tax is fair and helps state budgets in crisis.”

Until recently, consumers could purchase items online without paying sales tax, a strategy that enabled consumers to shop at local stores but then order the same products online so they could avoid the sales tax. In order to level the playing field, there has been a push to tax the online purchases so local business owners could compete.

The giant Amazon.com, which initially viewed with disfavor the idea of a sales tax, has decided that they now like the idea. Why? Because Amazon plans to offer same-day delivery, which will mean it needs more local warehouses, and it will then get hit by state taxes anyway.

Small online competitors are upset. Steve DelBianco, executive director of NetChoice, a trade group representing eBay, Overstock.com and others, said, "Besides the Republican support, this position change is being driven by the millions of dollars being spent by the big-box retailers—and now Amazon—to push the sales tax through Congress."

States that already have an online sales tax are Kansas, Kentucky, North Dakota, New York, Texas and Washington. Other state that are planning to join them are California (Sept. 2012), Indiana (Jan. 2014), Nevada (Jan. 2014), New Jersey (July 2013), South Carolina (Jan. 2016),Tennessee (Jan 2014) and Virginia (Sept 2013)...

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It never met a tax it didn't like.
 
Et tu, Brute? Et tu?

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of Envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Sir Winston Churchill

Those pushing this who call themselves 'Conservatives', really should read this quote over & over & over again. You've lost your way. Time to get back on track. A true Conservative would never support this.

Maybe they just realize that you can balance a budget by raising revenue instead of cutting medical care for single moms.

When have democrats attempted that balance?

The answer is never.............

A LONG time ago. Before you were born. In the late 90s.
 
Hey... I'm all for avoiding taxation when possible, particularly in light of how wasteful our government, both federal and state have become. But when I look at it from the small retailer's POV, I just can't see how it's fair to ask them to collect taxes, but not the online guys.
It's the small online retailers who stand the most to lose here.

Big online retailers like Amazon can absorb the additional costs of the requisite added accounting, which will push the small operators with smaller margins out of business.

And yet small brick and mortar businesses must absorb these costs...

Why should the tax system give an advantage to the small online business over the small brick and mortar business?
Since when did taxation become about fairness?

Seems to me you're reframing "when you spread the wealth around...."
 
What about on-line auction sites, like e-Bay?

Does some guy who wants to sell his baseball card collection have to collect TAXES from the winning bidder? If I win an auction for a used book on e-Bay, will I be forced to pay taxes on it?

BULLSHIT!
 
Why should brick and mortar stores be at a competitive disadvantage and online retailers get preferential treatment from the government?

Personally, I shop locally whenever I can, and at smaller local places rather than the big-box places. But there are things that are not available locally that I can get online. (Ain't the internet great!) Even those suppliers tend to be smaller businesses. Now, in addition to increasing costs of shipping, I'll have to cough up taxes, too?




If they were available locally, you would buy them at the higher retail price AND you would have to pay sales tax.


So what's your point?
 
Why should brick and mortar stores be at a competitive disadvantage and online retailers get preferential treatment from the government?

Personally, I shop locally whenever I can, and at smaller local places rather than the big-box places. But there are things that are not available locally that I can get online. (Ain't the internet great!) Even those suppliers tend to be smaller businesses. Now, in addition to increasing costs of shipping, I'll have to cough up taxes, too?




If they were available locally, you would buy them at the higher retail price AND you would have to pay sales tax.


So what's your point?
But you also get the benefit of face-to-face service...Not everyone shops online to save money.
 
Screwed by the phony Conservatives and Socialists/Progressives again.


Small companies who want to sell their products online are in real trouble. Some Republican governors, eager to enrich their thinning state coffers, are endorsing a tax that would be imposed on products sold online.According to the National Conference of State Legislatures Strapped, states could reap as much as $23 billion in new annual revenue.

Bigger chains are happy with the move. Scott Mason, a vice president at Lowe's Cos, who noted that Lowe’s has a 5 percent to 10 percent price disadvantage compared with online rivals, exclaimed, "Having one of the most recognized and widely popular Republican leaders take this position gives other politicians comfort that the online sales tax is fair and helps state budgets in crisis.”

Until recently, consumers could purchase items online without paying sales tax, a strategy that enabled consumers to shop at local stores but then order the same products online so they could avoid the sales tax. In order to level the playing field, there has been a push to tax the online purchases so local business owners could compete.

The giant Amazon.com, which initially viewed with disfavor the idea of a sales tax, has decided that they now like the idea. Why? Because Amazon plans to offer same-day delivery, which will mean it needs more local warehouses, and it will then get hit by state taxes anyway.

Small online competitors are upset. Steve DelBianco, executive director of NetChoice, a trade group representing eBay, Overstock.com and others, said, "Besides the Republican support, this position change is being driven by the millions of dollars being spent by the big-box retailers—and now Amazon—to push the sales tax through Congress."

States that already have an online sales tax are Kansas, Kentucky, North Dakota, New York, Texas and Washington. Other state that are planning to join them are California (Sept. 2012), Indiana (Jan. 2014), Nevada (Jan. 2014), New Jersey (July 2013), South Carolina (Jan. 2016),Tennessee (Jan 2014) and Virginia (Sept 2013)...

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yep, chris christie is a disgusting fat pig.
 
It's the small online retailers who stand the most to lose here.

Big online retailers like Amazon can absorb the additional costs of the requisite added accounting, which will push the small operators with smaller margins out of business.

And yet small brick and mortar businesses must absorb these costs...

Why should the tax system give an advantage to the small online business over the small brick and mortar business?
Since when did taxation become about fairness?

Seems to me you're reframing "when you spread the wealth around...."


You're making the argument.

The argument that is isn't fair to small online retailers because the big online retailers can absorb the costs of accounting...

I am expanding that exact same argument, but contrasting it against the comparison of the small online business versus the small brick and mortar business.
 
Why should brick and mortar stores be at a competitive disadvantage and online retailers get preferential treatment from the government?

Personally, I shop locally whenever I can, and at smaller local places rather than the big-box places. But there are things that are not available locally that I can get online. (Ain't the internet great!) Even those suppliers tend to be smaller businesses. Now, in addition to increasing costs of shipping, I'll have to cough up taxes, too?




If they were available locally, you would buy them at the higher retail price AND you would have to pay sales tax.


So what's your point?

So far, we are fortunate in AK, there is no state sales tax, no state income tax, either. Some localities levy a sales tax, but Anchorage does not. Lots of people come to Anchorage to buy big-ticket items. I'm not sure how much longer this blissful situation will continue. Our legislature, like many others, are proving incapable of living within a reasonable budget. Federal money will become less plentiful, too. And the oil industry is finding better prospects overseas. Federal and State regulations are chocking the oil industry to death up here. What was once the saving grace for our state is leaving for greener pastures.

Oh, yeah...my point is, I firmly believe in "buying locally". There's a lot to be said for knowing your neighbors and the people who provide the goods and services you pay or barter for. It is well worth the small added expense, if there is any. Remember, I have options and access to larger population centers where things might be somewhat less expensive, so lots of local businesses will "cut some slack" for the locals they trade with.
 
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Personally, I shop locally whenever I can, and at smaller local places rather than the big-box places. But there are things that are not available locally that I can get online. (Ain't the internet great!) Even those suppliers tend to be smaller businesses. Now, in addition to increasing costs of shipping, I'll have to cough up taxes, too?




If they were available locally, you would buy them at the higher retail price AND you would have to pay sales tax.


So what's your point?
But you also get the benefit of face-to-face service...Not everyone shops online to save money.


Considering the quality of the "help" you get these days, face-to-face service is not always a benefit.
 
Big Brother has to have his hand in everything. When are the People going to stand up and say enough is enough?
 
If they were available locally, you would buy them at the higher retail price AND you would have to pay sales tax.


So what's your point?
But you also get the benefit of face-to-face service...Not everyone shops online to save money.


Considering the quality of the "help" you get these days, face-to-face service is not always a benefit.

True. Nice to have the alternatives a free market provides...for now anyway.
 
...as the advantage only goes to online retailers with no locations within the borders of the state.

How exactly do online retailers have an advantage? Please be specific.

Keep in mind, as has been stated previously, that tax requirements are EXACTLY THE SAME for brick&mortar as they are for online retailers. If you sell a product to a customer out of the state in which your retail establishment is domiciled and ship that product to the customer, it's the customer's responsibility to pay the tax in the state in which he lives. This is true for any kind of retailer, online or brick&mortar. Similarly, if a retailer sells a product to a customer in the same state in which the retailer is domiciled, the retailer must collect the state tax. Again, this is true for any kind of retailer, online or brick&mortar.

So I ask again, how exactly do online retailers have an advantage?


If people were obeying the law, no one would be complaining about this change...because they would be paying the same sales tax for online purchases already.

Obviously they are not...hence their outrage.
 
And yet small brick and mortar businesses must absorb these costs...

Why should the tax system give an advantage to the small online business over the small brick and mortar business?
Since when did taxation become about fairness?

Seems to me you're reframing "when you spread the wealth around...."


You're making the argument.

The argument that is isn't fair to small online retailers because the big online retailers can absorb the costs of accounting...

I am expanding that exact same argument, but contrasting it against the comparison of the small online business versus the small brick and mortar business.
I'm comparing apples to apples, you're not....Pricing isn't the only reason people choose to shop online or at a brick-and-mortar store...I have recent first-hand experience.

I had to replace the foot controller for the trolling motor on my boat...The retailer for that item is in Minneapolis, 2 1/2 hours away....However I was going into town the next day and compared the time and effort it would've taken to go to the store and pick it up + sales tax, versus the shipping charge that was clearly more than what I'd have paid in tax...Having the item shipped made more sense to me, as I would have had to drive 20 miles out of my way to pick it up in person, even though I could've saved a few bucks.
 
It won't dissuade me from continuing to buy most things online. That is the wave of the future, and that is why the government wants its normal "take."
 
...as the advantage only goes to online retailers with no locations within the borders of the state.

How exactly do online retailers have an advantage? Please be specific.

Keep in mind, as has been stated previously, that tax requirements are EXACTLY THE SAME for brick&mortar as they are for online retailers. If you sell a product to a customer out of the state in which your retail establishment is domiciled and ship that product to the customer, it's the customer's responsibility to pay the tax in the state in which he lives. This is true for any kind of retailer, online or brick&mortar. Similarly, if a retailer sells a product to a customer in the same state in which the retailer is domiciled, the retailer must collect the state tax. Again, this is true for any kind of retailer, online or brick&mortar.

So I ask again, how exactly do online retailers have an advantage?


If people were obeying the law, no one would be complaining about this change...because they would be paying the same sales tax for online purchases already.

Obviously they are not...hence their outrage.

You completely dodged the question, which I assume means you now agree that online retailers have no advantage with regard to state taxes. Okay, baby steps.

Now, if we have a problem with people paying their taxes, why in heaven's name should be force that burden upon retailers? Isn't that the job of the tax collection agencies? What next, shall we force the guy that owns the land where a flea market takes place to collect the sales tax from the individual sales that take place on a Saturday morning?

Looking at the bigger picture, why in the heck would you want the government to collect yet MORE money from the people? Not enough government spending going on these days?
 
Socialists/Progressives pushing more Big Brother oppression is very predictable. It's very sad, but predictable. But even more sad, is so-called 'Conservative Republicans' pushing it. The Republican Party is breaking apart. True Conservatives are finding it harder & harder to remain in the Party.

Now you're trying to pin this on "progressives"? WTF? They aren't exactly champions of big box stores, now are they? Who are the ones fighting Wal Marts in their neighborhoods so that Mom and Pop stores survive? Who do the big box stores give more money to election-wise - whose pocket are they really in? You really are a piece of work. The article is about a REPUBLICAN pushing for this. Amazing...
 
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How exactly do online retailers have an advantage? Please be specific.

Keep in mind, as has been stated previously, that tax requirements are EXACTLY THE SAME for brick&mortar as they are for online retailers. If you sell a product to a customer out of the state in which your retail establishment is domiciled and ship that product to the customer, it's the customer's responsibility to pay the tax in the state in which he lives. This is true for any kind of retailer, online or brick&mortar. Similarly, if a retailer sells a product to a customer in the same state in which the retailer is domiciled, the retailer must collect the state tax. Again, this is true for any kind of retailer, online or brick&mortar.

So I ask again, how exactly do online retailers have an advantage?


If people were obeying the law, no one would be complaining about this change...because they would be paying the same sales tax for online purchases already.

Obviously they are not...hence their outrage.

You completely dodged the question, which I assume means you now agree that online retailers have no advantage with regard to state taxes. Okay, baby steps.

Now, if we have a problem with people paying their taxes, why in heaven's name should be force that burden upon retailers? Isn't that the job of the tax collection agencies? What next, shall we force the guy that owns the land where a flea market takes place to collect the sales tax from the individual sales that take place on a Saturday morning?

Looking at the bigger picture, why in the heck would you want the government to collect yet MORE money from the people? Not enough government spending going on these days?


Of course there is an advantage.

At the brick and mortar store the sales tax must be paid.

At the online retailer, the tax can be, and almost universally is, avoided.

Rep on the way for a nice try though.
 

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