One More Fabrication: “The Southern Strategy”

[TroglocratsRdumb]

In order to hide their racist background, the Democrats/Liberals have developed a story line that the party created to end slavery somehow decided to ‘flip’ and become an endorser of racism….and then engaged in a ‘Southern Strategy’ to win the racist vote in the South.

Bogus.

Time to blow up that lie.





1.The facts are simple: The Democrat Party has always been the party of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship.
To obfuscate this and fortify it, the Democrats have largely used lies and violence.

One truly sophomoric attempt has been the ‘flip flop’ pretense, that a century after the Civil War, still sulking because the Republicans pried their slaves away from them, they tried to claim that the party formed to fight the Democrats and slavery, suddenly became the racists.

The lie is easily defeated by asking any reliable Democrat voter what the chances are that they would suddenly become Trump supporters.




2. Unable to comprehend that Southern Americans are not the racists that the Democrats are, they had to find some explanation for their ancient base, the South, turning to vote Republican. Sooo….they claimed that Nixon campaigned as a racist to gain the Deep South, to win over the Dixiecrats and segregationists to the Republican fold.

Of course, problem #1 is that the Democrats cannot provide a single example of an explicitly racist pitch in the campaign. There never was one.



3. “The two biggest issues in the 1968 campaign were the Vietnam War…and the anti-war movement….

Nixon campaigned on a strong anti-communist, law and order platform. While embracing the welfare state- Nixon was no conservative on domestic issues- he also railed against what he termed ‘the excesses of bleeding heart liberalism.’” "Death Of A Nation,” Dinesh D’Souza, p. 203




4.”Liberal neurotic obsession with this apocryphal notion- (that Southern Strategy) it’s been cited hundreds of times in the NYTimes- is supposed to explain why Democrats can’t get nice churchgoing, patriotic southerners to vote for the party of antiwar protesters, abortion, the ACLU and gay marriage.

They tell themselves it’s because they won’t stoop to pander to a bunch of racists. This slander should probably be the first clue as to why southerners don’t like them.

The central premise of this folklore is that anyone who votes Republican is a racist. Pretty sophisticated thinking.”
Coulter, Mugged



Soooo....what happened to the Southern voter?

They behaved as good Americans, refused to support racist Democrats, and the racist voters aged out....and died.

Rectitude and Republicans won out.

Hollywood relentlessly portrays southerners as racist, as dumb and as inferior people.
There are almost no positive portrayals of southerners.
Paradoxically the Liberals pride themselves as being against stereotyping and prejudice.


FBI state hate crime statistics.

 

[Mac1958]

And you say there was no flip? Learn history lady and not revisionist

On other threads they'll tell you that racism isn't an issue any more. All one can do is observe at this point.

"...they'll tell you that racism isn't an issue any more."
Can you give a few examples of where it is?
No?
Of course you can't, fence-sitter.

See?
.

Dude. THis is a thread about the supposed Southern Strategy,


you came to post in it, but you refuse to address the topic, other than to make snarky comments?


Can you see why we are sooo pissed?

Of course I can see why you're so pissed. You've been worked up into such a frenzy within your ideological sphere that there is no way to break into the bubble. The OP has, as always, transparently tried to take a tribal weak spot and turn it around on the other side. That's fine, she has her little online persona to advance, this Mark-Levin-with-tits routine of hers.

I'm the first to admit, I don't know what this stuff is supposed to accomplish, outside of pumping the tribe up even more. Maybe that's all this is.

Me, I see a problem, I want to fix it. That's clearly not what this charade is for.
.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Culturally the Left is anti-wasp and it is why they have so much contempt for the south and midwest .
Democrats don't understand why the people who they hate won't vote for them.

 

[bodecea]

Republicans say it was democrats who owned slaves but today it’s republicans who worship Robert e lee and fly confederate flags...and go to kkk rally’s.

And you say there was no flip? Learn history lady and not revisionist

Your linking of confederate flags and the kkk, is you being a bigot.

It is not credible that you missed the last 150 years, where the Confederate Flag, lost it's role as a symbol of secession and became a symbol of regional pride.


So, you are thus, lying, in order to rationalize your bigotry.

I'm gonna ask you to modify that post in this way...

While born and bred Southerners see the statues and the flag as their history and heritage....not an endorsement of slavery or racism, the Democrat Party- believing that every Southerner is as racist as the party is.....have played the flag as a call to racism.




Bill Clinton, life-long Democrat and life-long racist, used the flag in that way:

1. Bill Clinton had a Confederate flag-like issue, every year he was governor: 1979-1992 Arkansas Code Annotated, Section 1-5-107, provides as follows:
   
   (a) The Saturday immediately preceding Easter Sunday of each year is designated as ‘Confederate Flag Day’ in this state.
   
   (b) No person, firm, or corporation shall display an Confederate flag or replica thereof in connection with any advertisement of any commercial enterprise, or in any manner for any purpose except to honor the Confederate States of America. [Emphasis added.]
   
   (c) Any person, firm, or corporation violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be fined not less than one hundred dollars ($100) nor more than one thousand dollars ($1,000).
   
   Bill Clinton took no steps during his twelve years as governor to repeal this law.
   Hillary Clinton's Confederacy Hypocrisy | The Gateway Pundit

Hillary Clinton's Confederacy Hypocrisy


View attachment 214924

You know that "clinton-gore" sign was individually made and was not a mass-produced pin for the campaign, right? Anyone can make a pin.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And you say there was no flip? Learn history lady and not revisionist

On other threads they'll tell you that racism isn't an issue any more. All one can do is observe at this point.

"...they'll tell you that racism isn't an issue any more."
Can you give a few examples of where it is?
No?
Of course you can't, fence-sitter.

See?
.

"...they'll tell you that racism isn't an issue any more."
Can you give a few examples of where it is?
No?
Of course you can't, fence-sitter.



As soon as you were challenged on your contention.....off you scurry with your tail between your legs.


Good little fence-sitter.

 

[PoliticalChic]

In order to hide their racist background, the Democrats/Liberals have developed a story line that the party created to end slavery somehow decided to ‘flip’ and become an endorser of racism….and then engaged in a ‘Southern Strategy’ to win the racist vote in the South.

Bogus.

Time to blow up that lie.





1.The facts are simple: The Democrat Party has always been the party of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship.
To obfuscate this and fortify it, the Democrats have largely used lies and violence.

One truly sophomoric attempt has been the ‘flip flop’ pretense, that a century after the Civil War, still sulking because the Republicans pried their slaves away from them, they tried to claim that the party formed to fight the Democrats and slavery, suddenly became the racists.

The lie is easily defeated by asking any reliable Democrat voter what the chances are that they would suddenly become Trump supporters.




2. Unable to comprehend that Southern Americans are not the racists that the Democrats are, they had to find some explanation for their ancient base, the South, turning to vote Republican. Sooo….they claimed that Nixon campaigned as a racist to gain the Deep South, to win over the Dixiecrats and segregationists to the Republican fold.

Of course, problem #1 is that the Democrats cannot provide a single example of an explicitly racist pitch in the campaign. There never was one.



3. “The two biggest issues in the 1968 campaign were the Vietnam War…and the anti-war movement….

Nixon campaigned on a strong anti-communist, law and order platform. While embracing the welfare state- Nixon was no conservative on domestic issues- he also railed against what he termed ‘the excesses of bleeding heart liberalism.’” "Death Of A Nation,” Dinesh D’Souza, p. 203




4.”Liberal neurotic obsession with this apocryphal notion- (that Southern Strategy) it’s been cited hundreds of times in the NYTimes- is supposed to explain why Democrats can’t get nice churchgoing, patriotic southerners to vote for the party of antiwar protesters, abortion, the ACLU and gay marriage.

They tell themselves it’s because they won’t stoop to pander to a bunch of racists. This slander should probably be the first clue as to why southerners don’t like them.

The central premise of this folklore is that anyone who votes Republican is a racist. Pretty sophisticated thinking.”
Coulter, Mugged



Soooo....what happened to the Southern voter?

They behaved as good Americans, refused to support racist Democrats, and the racist voters aged out....and died.

Rectitude and Republicans won out.

There is only one problem with your partisan adventure in spin-doctoring...

After the 1964 passage of the Civil Rights Act, Dixiecrats (Southern Democrats) shifted to the Republican Party.

Taking the Dixiecrat mindset with them, to the opposite side of the aisle.

The evidence being... the preponderance of consistent Red States in the Old South versus the number of consistent Blue States pre-1964.

Next batter, please.

Your map does nothing to refute my assertion that there are now more states voting CONSISTENTLY red than blue.

CONSISTENTLY.

Not an occasional exception to the rule, like 1976, when people could not forgive Ford for pardoning Nixon, but CONSISTENTLY.

Go find the track record of each state of the Old South from 1964 to the present day.

Average them out.

The answer will not please you, nor support your silly assertions.

Yes, the south became republican, eventually.


But that does not support that that was driven by race. Other factors were in play.

Not, it seems, to the terminally indoctrinated....racism is all they've been trained to see.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Republicans say it was democrats who owned slaves but today it’s republicans who worship Robert e lee and fly confederate flags...and go to kkk rally’s.

And you say there was no flip? Learn history lady and not revisionist

Your linking of confederate flags and the kkk, is you being a bigot.

It is not credible that you missed the last 150 years, where the Confederate Flag, lost it's role as a symbol of secession and became a symbol of regional pride.


So, you are thus, lying, in order to rationalize your bigotry.

I'm gonna ask you to modify that post in this way...

While born and bred Southerners see the statues and the flag as their history and heritage....not an endorsement of slavery or racism, the Democrat Party- believing that every Southerner is as racist as the party is.....have played the flag as a call to racism.




Bill Clinton, life-long Democrat and life-long racist, used the flag in that way:

1. Bill Clinton had a Confederate flag-like issue, every year he was governor: 1979-1992 Arkansas Code Annotated, Section 1-5-107, provides as follows:
   
   (a) The Saturday immediately preceding Easter Sunday of each year is designated as ‘Confederate Flag Day’ in this state.
   
   (b) No person, firm, or corporation shall display an Confederate flag or replica thereof in connection with any advertisement of any commercial enterprise, or in any manner for any purpose except to honor the Confederate States of America. [Emphasis added.]
   
   (c) Any person, firm, or corporation violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be fined not less than one hundred dollars ($100) nor more than one thousand dollars ($1,000).
   
   Bill Clinton took no steps during his twelve years as governor to repeal this law.
   Hillary Clinton's Confederacy Hypocrisy | The Gateway Pundit

Hillary Clinton's Confederacy Hypocrisy


View attachment 214924

You know that "clinton-gore" sign was individually made and was not a mass-produced pin for the campaign, right? Anyone can make a pin.

Wow....revealing the Confederate flag pin by the Clinton campaign really brings out the fear in you leftists.

Imagine, the party of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship, the Democrats, trying to deny that they are wedded to the confederacy!!!!


"In 1987, when her husband was governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton signed Act 116 that stated “The blue star above the word “ARKANSAS” is to commemorate the Confederate States of America.”

When the Confederate flag issue arose in the 2000 election, Matt Drudge reportedthat then-President Bill Clinton’s spokesman Joe Lockhart was asked about the issue. Lockhart told reporters, “I’ve just never heard any discussion or any objections that the president has raised.”
Flashback: As Governor, Bill Clinton Honored Confederacy On Arkansas Flag

As Governor, Bill Clinton Kept 'Confederate' Star On The Arkansas Flag | HuffPost




And, when asked directly about the authenticity of the Confederate Flag Clinton-Gore pin.....this is what we get from the career criminal:

"Hillary Clinton camp won’t say if Confederate flag button was official part of '92 presidential campaign
· Pin badges featuring distinctive Confederate symbol being sold on Ebay Clinton team have so-far refused to comment on whether it was endorsed

· Follows calls to scrap 'symbol of hate' from Capitol building


Hillary Clinton is refusing to say whether a Clinton-Gore pin featuring a Confederate flag was part of her husband's official campaign merchandise.

.....the former Arkansas first lady has not responded to questions by The Blaze over whether she knew if the pin was part of the official campaign. She has also failed to respond to requests over whether she is opposed now, or opposed then, to an act signed by her husband honoring the Confederate flag, the website said. "
Hillary Clinton won’t say if Confederate flag button was part of '92 presidential campaign | Daily Mail Online




Of course it was the official pin of the Democrat campaign.

Trying to lie your way away from it now, huh?

 

[PoliticalChic]

6. More telling about the Nixon/GOP voters is this description of the Miami Beach Republican Convention of 1968:


“Kruse’s portrait of Nixon’s base of white middle-class Republicans as a reincarnation of the old South racists is contradicted by Norman Mailer, who reported on the Republican Convention in Miami Beach in 1968. He found “a parade of wives and children and men who owned hardware stores or were druggists, or first teller in the bank, proprietor of a haberdashery or principal of a small-town high school, local lawyer, retired doctor, a widow on a tidy income, her minister and fellow-delegate, minor executives from minor corporations, men who owned their farms.”



As Mailer recognized, this was not a rally of Ku Klux Klansmen of the type that attended, say, the Democratic Convention of 1924.

This was Nixon’s “silent majority,” the ordinary Americans whom Nixon said worked hard and played by the rules and didn’t complain or set fire to anything and, precisely for this reason, had been ignored and even reviled by the Democratic Party.” The Switch That Never Happened: How the South Really Went GOP - American Greatness




Never forget this rule:
Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.

 

[Mac1958]

And you say there was no flip? Learn history lady and not revisionist

On other threads they'll tell you that racism isn't an issue any more. All one can do is observe at this point.

"...they'll tell you that racism isn't an issue any more."
Can you give a few examples of where it is?
No?
Of course you can't, fence-sitter.

See?
.

"...they'll tell you that racism isn't an issue any more."
Can you give a few examples of where it is?
No?
Of course you can't, fence-sitter.



As soon as you were challenged on your contention.....off you scurry with your tail between your legs.


Good little fence-sitter.

Whatever you like, hon.
.

 

[bodecea]

Republicans say it was democrats who owned slaves but today it’s republicans who worship Robert e lee and fly confederate flags...and go to kkk rally’s.

And you say there was no flip? Learn history lady and not revisionist

Your linking of confederate flags and the kkk, is you being a bigot.

It is not credible that you missed the last 150 years, where the Confederate Flag, lost it's role as a symbol of secession and became a symbol of regional pride.


So, you are thus, lying, in order to rationalize your bigotry.

I'm gonna ask you to modify that post in this way...

While born and bred Southerners see the statues and the flag as their history and heritage....not an endorsement of slavery or racism, the Democrat Party- believing that every Southerner is as racist as the party is.....have played the flag as a call to racism.




Bill Clinton, life-long Democrat and life-long racist, used the flag in that way:

1. Bill Clinton had a Confederate flag-like issue, every year he was governor: 1979-1992 Arkansas Code Annotated, Section 1-5-107, provides as follows:
   
   (a) The Saturday immediately preceding Easter Sunday of each year is designated as ‘Confederate Flag Day’ in this state.
   
   (b) No person, firm, or corporation shall display an Confederate flag or replica thereof in connection with any advertisement of any commercial enterprise, or in any manner for any purpose except to honor the Confederate States of America. [Emphasis added.]
   
   (c) Any person, firm, or corporation violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be fined not less than one hundred dollars ($100) nor more than one thousand dollars ($1,000).
   
   Bill Clinton took no steps during his twelve years as governor to repeal this law.
   Hillary Clinton's Confederacy Hypocrisy | The Gateway Pundit

Hillary Clinton's Confederacy Hypocrisy


View attachment 214924

You know that "clinton-gore" sign was individually made and was not a mass-produced pin for the campaign, right? Anyone can make a pin.

Wow....revealing the Confederate flag pin by the Clinton campaign really brings out the fear in you leftists.

Imagine, the party of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship, the Democrats, trying to deny that they are wedded to the confederacy!!!!


"In 1987, when her husband was governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton signed Act 116 that stated “The blue star above the word “ARKANSAS” is to commemorate the Confederate States of America.”

When the Confederate flag issue arose in the 2000 election, Matt Drudge reportedthat then-President Bill Clinton’s spokesman Joe Lockhart was asked about the issue. Lockhart told reporters, “I’ve just never heard any discussion or any objections that the president has raised.”
Flashback: As Governor, Bill Clinton Honored Confederacy On Arkansas Flag

As Governor, Bill Clinton Kept 'Confederate' Star On The Arkansas Flag | HuffPost




And, when asked directly about the authenticity of the Confederate Flag Clinton-Gore pin.....this is what we get from the career criminal:

"Hillary Clinton camp won’t say if Confederate flag button was official part of '92 presidential campaign
· Pin badges featuring distinctive Confederate symbol being sold on Ebay Clinton team have so-far refused to comment on whether it was endorsed

· Follows calls to scrap 'symbol of hate' from Capitol building


Hillary Clinton is refusing to say whether a Clinton-Gore pin featuring a Confederate flag was part of her husband's official campaign merchandise.

.....the former Arkansas first lady has not responded to questions by The Blaze over whether she knew if the pin was part of the official campaign. She has also failed to respond to requests over whether she is opposed now, or opposed then, to an act signed by her husband honoring the Confederate flag, the website said. "
Hillary Clinton won’t say if Confederate flag button was part of '92 presidential campaign | Daily Mail Online




Of course it was the official pin of the Democrat campaign.

Trying to lie your way away from it now, huh?

Too funny! Try try try and try again.

 

[Correll]

And you say there was no flip? Learn history lady and not revisionist

On other threads they'll tell you that racism isn't an issue any more. All one can do is observe at this point.

"...they'll tell you that racism isn't an issue any more."
Can you give a few examples of where it is?
No?
Of course you can't, fence-sitter.

See?
.

Dude. THis is a thread about the supposed Southern Strategy,


you came to post in it, but you refuse to address the topic, other than to make snarky comments?


Can you see why we are sooo pissed?

Of course I can see why you're so pissed. You've been worked up into such a frenzy within your ideological sphere that there is no way to break into the bubble. The OP has, as always, transparently tried to take a tribal weak spot and turn it around on the other side. That's fine, she has her little online persona to advance, this Mark-Levin-with-tits routine of hers.

I'm the first to admit, I don't know what this stuff is supposed to accomplish, outside of pumping the tribe up even more. Maybe that's all this is.

Me, I see a problem, I want to fix it. That's clearly not what this charade is for.
.

We cannot have anything resembling rational discussion or social harmony, when one side is allowed to just dismiss the other, whenever convenient by calling them "racist".


If you want to fix ANYTHING, you can't do it while the nation is divided into two halves that are incapable of communication.


Your side is the one that is not listening.


Ask yourself what you are doing in this thread? Are you being constructive? Are you fixing any problems?


Or are you making it worse?

 

[Mac1958]

We cannot have anything resembling rational discussion or social harmony, when one side is allowed to just dismiss the other, whenever convenient by calling them "racist".

We also can't fix our racial issues when the other side convinces itself that racism no longer exists and that it's not even an issue.

As I point out constantly, both ends of this issue need to clean their own house first, and both ends always deny it.

That would involve effort, honesty and humility, qualities that in tragically short supply on both ends.

I'm not trying to accomplish anything in this thread. There is nothing to be accomplished on an online message board.

As always, I just observe and belch out my little opinion here and there. Invariably, someone comes right along to prove me right.
.

 

[Correll]

Republicans say it was democrats who owned slaves but today it’s republicans who worship Robert e lee and fly confederate flags...and go to kkk rally’s.

And you say there was no flip? Learn history lady and not revisionist

Your linking of confederate flags and the kkk, is you being a bigot.

It is not credible that you missed the last 150 years, where the Confederate Flag, lost it's role as a symbol of secession and became a symbol of regional pride.


So, you are thus, lying, in order to rationalize your bigotry.

I'm gonna ask you to modify that post in this way...

While born and bred Southerners see the statues and the flag as their history and heritage....not an endorsement of slavery or racism, the Democrat Party- believing that every Southerner is as racist as the party is.....have played the flag as a call to racism.




Bill Clinton, life-long Democrat and life-long racist, used the flag in that way:

1. Bill Clinton had a Confederate flag-like issue, every year he was governor: 1979-1992 Arkansas Code Annotated, Section 1-5-107, provides as follows:
   
   (a) The Saturday immediately preceding Easter Sunday of each year is designated as ‘Confederate Flag Day’ in this state.
   
   (b) No person, firm, or corporation shall display an Confederate flag or replica thereof in connection with any advertisement of any commercial enterprise, or in any manner for any purpose except to honor the Confederate States of America. [Emphasis added.]
   
   (c) Any person, firm, or corporation violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be fined not less than one hundred dollars ($100) nor more than one thousand dollars ($1,000).
   
   Bill Clinton took no steps during his twelve years as governor to repeal this law.
   Hillary Clinton's Confederacy Hypocrisy | The Gateway Pundit

Hillary Clinton's Confederacy Hypocrisy


View attachment 214924

You know that "clinton-gore" sign was individually made and was not a mass-produced pin for the campaign, right? Anyone can make a pin.

Wow....revealing the Confederate flag pin by the Clinton campaign really brings out the fear in you leftists.

Imagine, the party of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship, the Democrats, trying to deny that they are wedded to the confederacy!!!!


"In 1987, when her husband was governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton signed Act 116 that stated “The blue star above the word “ARKANSAS” is to commemorate the Confederate States of America.”

When the Confederate flag issue arose in the 2000 election, Matt Drudge reportedthat then-President Bill Clinton’s spokesman Joe Lockhart was asked about the issue. Lockhart told reporters, “I’ve just never heard any discussion or any objections that the president has raised.”
Flashback: As Governor, Bill Clinton Honored Confederacy On Arkansas Flag

As Governor, Bill Clinton Kept 'Confederate' Star On The Arkansas Flag | HuffPost




And, when asked directly about the authenticity of the Confederate Flag Clinton-Gore pin.....this is what we get from the career criminal:

"Hillary Clinton camp won’t say if Confederate flag button was official part of '92 presidential campaign
· Pin badges featuring distinctive Confederate symbol being sold on Ebay Clinton team have so-far refused to comment on whether it was endorsed

· Follows calls to scrap 'symbol of hate' from Capitol building


Hillary Clinton is refusing to say whether a Clinton-Gore pin featuring a Confederate flag was part of her husband's official campaign merchandise.

.....the former Arkansas first lady has not responded to questions by The Blaze over whether she knew if the pin was part of the official campaign. She has also failed to respond to requests over whether she is opposed now, or opposed then, to an act signed by her husband honoring the Confederate flag, the website said. "
Hillary Clinton won’t say if Confederate flag button was part of '92 presidential campaign | Daily Mail Online




Of course it was the official pin of the Democrat campaign.

Trying to lie your way away from it now, huh?

Too funny! Try try try and try again.

Nice unsupported assertion. So you just here to be an ass?

 

[Correll]

We cannot have anything resembling rational discussion or social harmony, when one side is allowed to just dismiss the other, whenever convenient by calling them "racist".

We also can't fix our racial issues when the other side convinces itself that racism no longer exists and that it's not even an issue.

As I point out constantly, both ends of this issue need to clean their own house first, and both ends always deny it.

That would involve effort, honesty and humility, qualities that in tragically short supply on both ends.

I'm not trying to accomplish anything in this thread. There is nothing to be accomplished on an online message board.

As always, I just observe and belch out my little opinion here and there. Invariably, someone comes right along to prove me right.
.

You talk about how both sides need to do something, but when I point out what your side is doing, instead of addressing it,

you immediately try to turn it around.


And we CAN have rational discussion or social harmony, when one side "convinces itself that racism no longer exists and that it's not even an issue."


All it means is that each time your side wants to cry racism, it actually has to make the case there there is a real injustice occurring, instead of just screaming it, and expecting that to be enough.


The SOuthern Strategy is a lie. Nixon did not pander to southern Racists. The South drifted right, due to the South becoming more and more prosperous and educated.

 

[Mac1958]

We cannot have anything resembling rational discussion or social harmony, when one side is allowed to just dismiss the other, whenever convenient by calling them "racist".

We also can't fix our racial issues when the other side convinces itself that racism no longer exists and that it's not even an issue.

As I point out constantly, both ends of this issue need to clean their own house first, and both ends always deny it.

That would involve effort, honesty and humility, qualities that in tragically short supply on both ends.

I'm not trying to accomplish anything in this thread. There is nothing to be accomplished on an online message board.

As always, I just observe and belch out my little opinion here and there. Invariably, someone comes right along to prove me right.
.

You talk about how both sides need to do something, but when I point out what your side is doing, instead of addressing it,

you immediately try to turn it around.


And we CAN have rational discussion or social harmony, when one side "convinces itself that racism no longer exists and that it's not even an issue."


All it means is that each time your side wants to cry racism, it actually has to make the case there there is a real injustice occurring, instead of just screaming it, and expecting that to be enough.


The SOuthern Strategy is a lie. Nixon did not pander to southern Racists. The South drifted right, due to the South becoming more and more prosperous and educated.

As you well know, no one on this board takes more shit from the PC police/Identity Politics zealots/Regressive Left than me. If you seriously can't see that, there's nothing else I can say. That's pretty disappointing, but I guess that's the way things go here.

There will be some who will hopefully be part of a conversation that leads to healing. Obviously, there will be many who will not be.
.

 

[skews13]

In order to hide their racist background, the Democrats/Liberals have developed a story line that the party created to end slavery somehow decided to ‘flip’ and become an endorser of racism….and then engaged in a ‘Southern Strategy’ to win the racist vote in the South.

Bogus.

Time to blow up that lie.





1.The facts are simple: The Democrat Party has always been the party of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship.
To obfuscate this and fortify it, the Democrats have largely used lies and violence.

One truly sophomoric attempt has been the ‘flip flop’ pretense, that a century after the Civil War, still sulking because the Republicans pried their slaves away from them, they tried to claim that the party formed to fight the Democrats and slavery, suddenly became the racists.

The lie is easily defeated by asking any reliable Democrat voter what the chances are that they would suddenly become Trump supporters.




2. Unable to comprehend that Southern Americans are not the racists that the Democrats are, they had to find some explanation for their ancient base, the South, turning to vote Republican. Sooo….they claimed that Nixon campaigned as a racist to gain the Deep South, to win over the Dixiecrats and segregationists to the Republican fold.

Of course, problem #1 is that the Democrats cannot provide a single example of an explicitly racist pitch in the campaign. There never was one.



3. “The two biggest issues in the 1968 campaign were the Vietnam War…and the anti-war movement….

Nixon campaigned on a strong anti-communist, law and order platform. While embracing the welfare state- Nixon was no conservative on domestic issues- he also railed against what he termed ‘the excesses of bleeding heart liberalism.’” "Death Of A Nation,” Dinesh D’Souza, p. 203




4.”Liberal neurotic obsession with this apocryphal notion- (that Southern Strategy) it’s been cited hundreds of times in the NYTimes- is supposed to explain why Democrats can’t get nice churchgoing, patriotic southerners to vote for the party of antiwar protesters, abortion, the ACLU and gay marriage.

They tell themselves it’s because they won’t stoop to pander to a bunch of racists. This slander should probably be the first clue as to why southerners don’t like them.

The central premise of this folklore is that anyone who votes Republican is a racist. Pretty sophisticated thinking.”
Coulter, Mugged



Soooo....what happened to the Southern voter?

They behaved as good Americans, refused to support racist Democrats, and the racist voters aged out....and died.

Rectitude and Republicans won out.

There is only one problem with your partisan adventure in spin-doctoring...

After the 1964 passage of the Civil Rights Act, Dixiecrats (Southern Democrats) shifted to the Republican Party.

Taking the Dixiecrat mindset with them, to the opposite side of the aisle.

The evidence being... the preponderance of consistent Red States in the Old South versus the number of consistent Blue States pre-1964.

Next batter, please.

I thought she was just a willfully ignorant right winger at first. This post verified shes just a troll

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

In order to hide their racist background, the Democrats/Liberals have developed a story line that the party created to end slavery somehow decided to ‘flip’ and become an endorser of racism….and then engaged in a ‘Southern Strategy’ to win the racist vote in the South.

Bogus.

Time to blow up that lie.





1.The facts are simple: The Democrat Party has always been the party of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship.
To obfuscate this and fortify it, the Democrats have largely used lies and violence.

One truly sophomoric attempt has been the ‘flip flop’ pretense, that a century after the Civil War, still sulking because the Republicans pried their slaves away from them, they tried to claim that the party formed to fight the Democrats and slavery, suddenly became the racists.

The lie is easily defeated by asking any reliable Democrat voter what the chances are that they would suddenly become Trump supporters.




2. Unable to comprehend that Southern Americans are not the racists that the Democrats are, they had to find some explanation for their ancient base, the South, turning to vote Republican. Sooo….they claimed that Nixon campaigned as a racist to gain the Deep South, to win over the Dixiecrats and segregationists to the Republican fold.

Of course, problem #1 is that the Democrats cannot provide a single example of an explicitly racist pitch in the campaign. There never was one.



3. “The two biggest issues in the 1968 campaign were the Vietnam War…and the anti-war movement….

Nixon campaigned on a strong anti-communist, law and order platform. While embracing the welfare state- Nixon was no conservative on domestic issues- he also railed against what he termed ‘the excesses of bleeding heart liberalism.’” "Death Of A Nation,” Dinesh D’Souza, p. 203




4.”Liberal neurotic obsession with this apocryphal notion- (that Southern Strategy) it’s been cited hundreds of times in the NYTimes- is supposed to explain why Democrats can’t get nice churchgoing, patriotic southerners to vote for the party of antiwar protesters, abortion, the ACLU and gay marriage.

They tell themselves it’s because they won’t stoop to pander to a bunch of racists. This slander should probably be the first clue as to why southerners don’t like them.

The central premise of this folklore is that anyone who votes Republican is a racist. Pretty sophisticated thinking.”
Coulter, Mugged



Soooo....what happened to the Southern voter?

They behaved as good Americans, refused to support racist Democrats, and the racist voters aged out....and died.

Rectitude and Republicans won out.

Hollywood relentlessly portrays southerners as racist, as dumb and as inferior people.
There are almost no positive portrayals of southerners.
Paradoxically the Liberals pride themselves as being against stereotyping and prejudice.


FBI state hate crime statistics.
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New Jersey's probably the most racist state, presumably because of all it's Italians.

 

[miketx]

Republicans say it was democrats who owned slaves but today it’s republicans who worship Robert e lee and fly confederate flags...and go to kkk rally’s.

And you say there was no flip? Learn history lady and not revisionist

Lol! The KKK? They are shadow on their former selves, a card to play by desperate lying liberals who draw them like a gun.

 

[Correll]

We cannot have anything resembling rational discussion or social harmony, when one side is allowed to just dismiss the other, whenever convenient by calling them "racist".

We also can't fix our racial issues when the other side convinces itself that racism no longer exists and that it's not even an issue.

As I point out constantly, both ends of this issue need to clean their own house first, and both ends always deny it.

That would involve effort, honesty and humility, qualities that in tragically short supply on both ends.

I'm not trying to accomplish anything in this thread. There is nothing to be accomplished on an online message board.

As always, I just observe and belch out my little opinion here and there. Invariably, someone comes right along to prove me right.
.

You talk about how both sides need to do something, but when I point out what your side is doing, instead of addressing it,

you immediately try to turn it around.


And we CAN have rational discussion or social harmony, when one side "convinces itself that racism no longer exists and that it's not even an issue."


All it means is that each time your side wants to cry racism, it actually has to make the case there there is a real injustice occurring, instead of just screaming it, and expecting that to be enough.


The SOuthern Strategy is a lie. Nixon did not pander to southern Racists. The South drifted right, due to the South becoming more and more prosperous and educated.

As you well know, no one on this board takes more shit from the PC police/Identity Politics zealots/Regressive Left than me. If you seriously can't see that, there's nothing else I can say. That's pretty disappointing, but I guess that's the way things go here.

There will be some who will hopefully be part of a conversation that leads to healing. Obviously, there will be many who will not be.
.

I have seen that, and defended you on many occasions.


That being said, you just made a statement lamenting the impossibility of rational discussion, and then airy dismissed my post, instead of responding to any of my four valid and serious points.


So, how is that going to lead to a conversation that leads to healing?

 

[Correll]

In order to hide their racist background, the Democrats/Liberals have developed a story line that the party created to end slavery somehow decided to ‘flip’ and become an endorser of racism….and then engaged in a ‘Southern Strategy’ to win the racist vote in the South.

Bogus.

Time to blow up that lie.





1.The facts are simple: The Democrat Party has always been the party of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship.
To obfuscate this and fortify it, the Democrats have largely used lies and violence.

One truly sophomoric attempt has been the ‘flip flop’ pretense, that a century after the Civil War, still sulking because the Republicans pried their slaves away from them, they tried to claim that the party formed to fight the Democrats and slavery, suddenly became the racists.

The lie is easily defeated by asking any reliable Democrat voter what the chances are that they would suddenly become Trump supporters.




2. Unable to comprehend that Southern Americans are not the racists that the Democrats are, they had to find some explanation for their ancient base, the South, turning to vote Republican. Sooo….they claimed that Nixon campaigned as a racist to gain the Deep South, to win over the Dixiecrats and segregationists to the Republican fold.

Of course, problem #1 is that the Democrats cannot provide a single example of an explicitly racist pitch in the campaign. There never was one.



3. “The two biggest issues in the 1968 campaign were the Vietnam War…and the anti-war movement….

Nixon campaigned on a strong anti-communist, law and order platform. While embracing the welfare state- Nixon was no conservative on domestic issues- he also railed against what he termed ‘the excesses of bleeding heart liberalism.’” "Death Of A Nation,” Dinesh D’Souza, p. 203




4.”Liberal neurotic obsession with this apocryphal notion- (that Southern Strategy) it’s been cited hundreds of times in the NYTimes- is supposed to explain why Democrats can’t get nice churchgoing, patriotic southerners to vote for the party of antiwar protesters, abortion, the ACLU and gay marriage.

They tell themselves it’s because they won’t stoop to pander to a bunch of racists. This slander should probably be the first clue as to why southerners don’t like them.

The central premise of this folklore is that anyone who votes Republican is a racist. Pretty sophisticated thinking.”
Coulter, Mugged



Soooo....what happened to the Southern voter?

They behaved as good Americans, refused to support racist Democrats, and the racist voters aged out....and died.

Rectitude and Republicans won out.

There is only one problem with your partisan adventure in spin-doctoring...

After the 1964 passage of the Civil Rights Act, Dixiecrats (Southern Democrats) shifted to the Republican Party.

Taking the Dixiecrat mindset with them, to the opposite side of the aisle.

The evidence being... the preponderance of consistent Red States in the Old South versus the number of consistent Blue States pre-1964.

Next batter, please.

I thought she was just a willfully ignorant right winger at first. This post verified shes just a troll

Says the poster that has not addressed one point seriously in the whole thread.

Troll.