One million Wisconson voters want to sign a recall petition for the republicans

[skookerasbil]

I love this forum!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Stephanie]

The Biggest DEMOCRAT parasite.

#28 George Soros
Net Worth: $7.2 billion
Source: Finance, hedge funds

George Soros, The 400 Richest Americans - Forbes.com

 

[georgephillip]

Do you see the solution?

Why not just tell everyone who makes $100,000 per year or less to keep ALL of it and tax the Koch brothers and other parasites at the same rate they rich paid between 1945 -1980?

Here they are, good People. The richest ten politicians in Congress, according to the Huffington Post (1). While the economy has been going down the drain, capitol hill lawmakers have "gained a cumulative $1.4 Billion in personal wealth from 2008 to 2009" (2).

The actual report came from The Hill dot Com where they reported on the 50 wealthiest Congressmen (3). Here are the ten fattest cats in Congress as presented by the Huffington Post (1):

1) Senator John Kerry (D-Mass) - $188.6 Million


2) Representative Darrell Issa (R-California) - $160.1 Million


3) Representative Jane Harman (D-California) - $152.3 Million


4) Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-West Virginia) - $83.7 Million


5) Representative Michael McCaCaul - (R-Texas) - $73.8 Million


6) Senator Mark Warner (D-Virginia) - $70.2 Million


7) Representative Jared Polis (D-Colorado) - $56.5 Million


8) Representative Vern Buchanan (R-Florida) - $53.5 Million


9) Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-New Jersey) - $49.7 Million


10) Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-California) - $46.1 Million




OpEdNews - Article: Top Ten Richest Politicians in Congress

My solution is to FLUSH every name on your top ten list and HUNDREDS of other Republicans AND Democrats from the US Congress in November of 2012 then tax the Koch brothers and George Soros into extinction

What is yours?

 

[Jarhead]

Do you see the solution?

Why not just tell everyone who makes $100,000 per year or less to keep ALL of it and tax the Koch brothers and other parasites at the same rate they rich paid between 1945 -1980?

Here they are, good People. The richest ten politicians in Congress, according to the Huffington Post (1). While the economy has been going down the drain, capitol hill lawmakers have "gained a cumulative $1.4 Billion in personal wealth from 2008 to 2009" (2).

The actual report came from The Hill dot Com where they reported on the 50 wealthiest Congressmen (3). Here are the ten fattest cats in Congress as presented by the Huffington Post (1):

1) Senator John Kerry (D-Mass) - $188.6 Million


2) Representative Darrell Issa (R-California) - $160.1 Million


3) Representative Jane Harman (D-California) - $152.3 Million


4) Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-West Virginia) - $83.7 Million


5) Representative Michael McCaCaul - (R-Texas) - $73.8 Million


6) Senator Mark Warner (D-Virginia) - $70.2 Million


7) Representative Jared Polis (D-Colorado) - $56.5 Million


8) Representative Vern Buchanan (R-Florida) - $53.5 Million


9) Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-New Jersey) - $49.7 Million


10) Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-California) - $46.1 Million




OpEdNews - Article: Top Ten Richest Politicians in Congress

My solution is to FLUSH every name on your top ten list and HUNDREDS of other Republicans AND Democrats from the US Congress in November of 2012 then tax the Koch brothers and George Soros into extinction

What is yours?

Purge congress...
And leave the private citizens alone.

 

[georgephillip]

Purge congress.

Leave the fate of all private citizens in the hands of newly elected Greens and Libertarians?

 

[signelect]

Every wonder why the union have steadily lost members over the past 30 years, they are not the majority and they have ruined several states, CA come to mind and Michigan and Ohio and I think the list is longer than that.

The real problem is not the union but the idiots on the other side of the table that kept saying yes to the rediculous demand and wants they made. Some of us remember when Iaccoca to the Chrysler works that he had jobs at $17/hr not at $19. That was when most of us worked at $5.00. Don't the union get it. Why should 15% give or take make such huge benefits. It is the same argument as those who complain about the mega rich.

 

[georgephillip]

The same argument except the richest 1% of the population held about 9% of national income when most of us worked for $5 an hour and they currently hold about 23% when most of us work for $8.00 or less.

There is no shortage of corruption among union leaders. That fact doesn't change the problem with the richest 1% increasing their share of national wealth during the last two years while most of us struggle to hold onto our jobs and houses.

If we had faced this problem in 1980 most of us could be earning the equivalent of $17 to $19 an hour today while billionaires like Iaccoca "suffered" with their 9% of national income lifestyles.

 

[Big Fitz]

Do you see the solution?

Why not just tell everyone who makes $100,000 per year or less to keep ALL of it and tax the Koch brothers and other parasites at the same rate they rich paid between 1945 -1980?

Here they are, good People. The richest ten politicians in Congress, according to the Huffington Post (1). While the economy has been going down the drain, capitol hill lawmakers have "gained a cumulative $1.4 Billion in personal wealth from 2008 to 2009" (2).

The actual report came from The Hill dot Com where they reported on the 50 wealthiest Congressmen (3). Here are the ten fattest cats in Congress as presented by the Huffington Post (1):

1) Senator John Kerry (D-Mass) - $188.6 Million


2) Representative Darrell Issa (R-California) - $160.1 Million


3) Representative Jane Harman (D-California) - $152.3 Million


4) Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-West Virginia) - $83.7 Million


5) Representative Michael McCaCaul - (R-Texas) - $73.8 Million


6) Senator Mark Warner (D-Virginia) - $70.2 Million


7) Representative Jared Polis (D-Colorado) - $56.5 Million


8) Representative Vern Buchanan (R-Florida) - $53.5 Million


9) Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-New Jersey) - $49.7 Million


10) Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-California) - $46.1 Million




OpEdNews - Article: Top Ten Richest Politicians in Congress

Do it in a test case first. Start with politicians and celebrities. See how well forcing them down to a 100k a year level of wealth, and if it works well, let's expand from there.

No I'm not being serious but it'd be funny to watch them freak out about how it's 'theirs'.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Maybe you've noticed NJ has company?

If we exclude the state of North Dakota (which solved this problem in 1919) the combined deficits of the other 49 states is over $100 billion.

US corporations that depend on US schools, roads and aircraft carriers currently avoid about $100 billion every year in taxes by pretending to do business in the Cayman Islands.

Do you see the solution?

Why not just tell everyone who makes $100,000 per year or less to keep ALL of it and tax the Koch brothers and other parasites at the same rate they rich paid between 1945 -1980?

Or would that qualify as class war?

Non-sequitur..
But since you opened the door, go right ahead and provide some links ( opinion pieces not accepted) that show which companies claim to be headquartered in the cayman Islands and of course the tax evasion trail.
I get pretty sick and tired of you people who believe in the funding of government at all costs even it means scuttling the private sector economy. For you fools, as long as government is fully funded so it may provide you with entitlements, you are fine with that.
Look, one last time. Government must learn fiscal discipline.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Do you see the solution?

Why not just tell everyone who makes $100,000 per year or less to keep ALL of it and tax the Koch brothers and other parasites at the same rate they rich paid between 1945 -1980?

Here they are, good People. The richest ten politicians in Congress, according to the Huffington Post (1). While the economy has been going down the drain, capitol hill lawmakers have "gained a cumulative $1.4 Billion in personal wealth from 2008 to 2009" (2).

The actual report came from The Hill dot Com where they reported on the 50 wealthiest Congressmen (3). Here are the ten fattest cats in Congress as presented by the Huffington Post (1):

1) Senator John Kerry (D-Mass) - $188.6 Million


2) Representative Darrell Issa (R-California) - $160.1 Million


3) Representative Jane Harman (D-California) - $152.3 Million


4) Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-West Virginia) - $83.7 Million


5) Representative Michael McCaCaul - (R-Texas) - $73.8 Million


6) Senator Mark Warner (D-Virginia) - $70.2 Million


7) Representative Jared Polis (D-Colorado) - $56.5 Million


8) Representative Vern Buchanan (R-Florida) - $53.5 Million


9) Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-New Jersey) - $49.7 Million


10) Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-California) - $46.1 Million




OpEdNews - Article: Top Ten Richest Politicians in Congress

Oh how dare you.....The libs on this board use their selective amnesia when the wealth of their favorite liberal politicians is mentioned. Or they will say "well, that's different"...
Fact is some of the wealthiest people in the world contribute heavily to liberal causes and democrat candidates. Bill Gates and George Soros come to mind.
But here we have to endure day after day whiny assed lefties railing against the evil rich...
What bullshit.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The same argument except the richest 1% of the population held about 9% of national income when most of us worked for $5 an hour and they currently hold about 23% when most of us work for $8.00 or less.

There is no shortage of corruption among union leaders. That fact doesn't change the problem with the richest 1% increasing their share of national wealth during the last two years while most of us struggle to hold onto our jobs and houses.

If we had faced this problem in 1980 most of us could be earning the equivalent of $17 to $19 an hour today while billionaires like Iaccoca "suffered" with their 9% of national income lifestyles.

another brilliant non-sequitur...
You just hate anyone who has more money than you think they should be permitted to have.
You are irrational. You have no credibility

 

[georgephillip]

The same argument except the richest 1% of the population held about 9% of national income when most of us worked for $5 an hour and they currently hold about 23% when most of us work for $8.00 or less.

There is no shortage of corruption among union leaders. That fact doesn't change the problem with the richest 1% increasing their share of national wealth during the last two years while most of us struggle to hold onto our jobs and houses.

If we had faced this problem in 1980 most of us could be earning the equivalent of $17 to $19 an hour today while billionaires like Iaccoca "suffered" with their 9% of national income lifestyles.

another brilliant non-sequitur...
You just hate anyone who has more money than you think they should be permitted to have.
You are irrational. You have no credibility

Because the richest 1% of the US population had nearly tripled its share of national income since 1980, government at all levels suffered revenue deficits BEFORE the richest 1% inflated and collapsed an $8trillion housing bubble two years ago.

If you don't see the connection, ask Charles or David to explain it in terms you can understand.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The same argument except the richest 1% of the population held about 9% of national income when most of us worked for $5 an hour and they currently hold about 23% when most of us work for $8.00 or less.

There is no shortage of corruption among union leaders. That fact doesn't change the problem with the richest 1% increasing their share of national wealth during the last two years while most of us struggle to hold onto our jobs and houses.

If we had faced this problem in 1980 most of us could be earning the equivalent of $17 to $19 an hour today while billionaires like Iaccoca "suffered" with their 9% of national income lifestyles.

another brilliant non-sequitur...
You just hate anyone who has more money than you think they should be permitted to have.
You are irrational. You have no credibility

Because the richest 1% of the US population had nearly tripled its share of national income since 1980, government at all levels suffered revenue deficits BEFORE the richest 1% inflated and collapsed an $8trillion housing bubble two years ago.

If you don't see the connection, ask Charles or David to explain it in terms you can understand.

sticking with the weak assed class warfare argument, I see.
You imply the existence of the zero sum game.
Incorrect.
Wealth is created. It does not exist in vacuum.
There is no magic pot of money from which we all draw. Nor does the theory that if one has more, another then MUST have less.
There has been no upward pathway of wealth. No one has stolen the assets of the poor and given them to the rich. And no amount of bitching and moaning is going to assure the opposite occurs.
Fact...No society has ever been able to tax itself into prosperity.
In fact at no time in US history has confiscatory taxation transferred to higher revenue to government.
A society cannot expect to cut off the head of the top to enrich the bottom.
Once again, you think backwards. You assume that if tax rates are increased, government will spend the money wisely. The reverse is true. Filling government coffers simply gives more opportunities for politicians to waste the money, making the same mistakes and expecting a different result.

 

[grunt11b]

About 200,000,000 wanna sign one for Obama, is it going to happen? Nope, and it won't happen in Wisconsin either.

 

[georgephillip]

another brilliant non-sequitur...
You just hate anyone who has more money than you think they should be permitted to have.
You are irrational. You have no credibility

Because the richest 1% of the US population had nearly tripled its share of national income since 1980, government at all levels suffered revenue deficits BEFORE the richest 1% inflated and collapsed an $8trillion housing bubble two years ago.

If you don't see the connection, ask Charles or David to explain it in terms you can understand.

sticking with the weak assed class warfare argument, I see.
You imply the existence of the zero sum game.
Incorrect.
Wealth is created. It does not exist in vacuum.
There is no magic pot of money from which we all draw. Nor does the theory that if one has more, another then MUST have less.
There has been no upward pathway of wealth. No one has stolen the assets of the poor and given them to the rich. And no amount of bitching and moaning is going to assure the opposite occurs.
Fact...No society has ever been able to tax itself into prosperity.
In fact at no time in US history has confiscatory taxation transferred to higher revenue to government.
A society cannot expect to cut off the head of the top to enrich the bottom.
Once again, you think backwards. You assume that if tax rates are increased, government will spend the money wisely. The reverse is true. Filling government coffers simply gives more opportunities for politicians to waste the money, making the same mistakes and expecting a different result.

Filling government coffers with Republicans AND Democrats in control of Congress guarantees more waste and corruption. How hard would it be to FLUSH hundreds of Republicans AND Democrats from DC in November 2012?

Shifting the tax burden off rich individuals and corporations over the last thirty years has stolen the assets of the middle class as surely as shipping millions of their jobs to China and Mexico has.

Wealth is created; however, money is a commodity and can be possessed by only one person OR another. While you are probably correct about no society in history taxing itself into prosperity, there are numerous examples of Republics transforming into Oligarchies through lack of equitable taxation and overextended military empires.

Tax revenue collection is a zero-sum game.

If billionaires who produce nothing except elaborate financial transactions are taxed at 15% and productive workers pay a rate twice that amount, the magic pot of money grows by ensuring labor's earned income will flow to government coffers in place of the speculator's unearned millions.

No amount of apologizing for FIRE sector wealth or wishful thinking will change that.