One Birther's belief (maybe all?)

[Sheldon]

I thought his mom was white.

You misunderstood. That's not a picture of little Barry with his parents. That's a picture of him with his grandparents. Here's the picture of his parents.

William Joyce is going to have an aneurysm if he sees that picture!

 

[Provocateur]

I'm sorry if I offended you and made you feel bad...I guess you are a birther.

Obama released a birth certificate that is certified by the state of Hawaii. There is some reason birthers refuse to believe its validity and I have no idea why. This Republican politician is insinuating that his parents are monkeys. Yeah, a big yuk but at the same time she may be admitting to something.

And if you paid attention, for instance to what I typed, you would find that the COLB is not even the main issue.

I'm sorry you have been misled by the people on the left. The fact that you are questing whether all birthers are racist shows that they are easily manipulating people that seek to be outraged.

Bottom line, it has zero to do with race for the millions of people that you are stereotyping.


What some racist individuals say/do has nothing to do with the mindset of the whole.


But thank you for narrowing it down to #2.

You aren't convincing.

Which further confirms #2 in the correct choice.

You don't need to be convinced on what to believe in life, Ravi.

You can figure out what to think all on your own.

 

[gekaap]

And if you paid attention, for instance to what I typed, you would find that the COLB is not even the main issue.

That is an extraordinary claim. We see here on this board that the birther arguments always revolve around dismissing his birth certificate as not being valid, with great pains being taken to redefine what the definition of is is. Look at bigreb's "accepted/filed' argument. Look at USArmy's signature line. Look at all the repeated insistences that a COLB is not a birth certificate. I'm sorry, but the main issue IS the notion that Obama's birth certificate is invalid/fake/whatever. I've never heard a birther say "I'm sure he was born in HI, I just wish he would be more honest about it."

 

[Ravi]

And if you paid attention, for instance to what I typed, you would find that the COLB is not even the main issue.

That is an extraordinary claim. We see here on this board that the birther arguments always revolve around dismissing his birth certificate as not being valid, with great pains being taken to redefine what the definition of is is. Look at bigreb's "accepted/filed' argument. Look at USArmy's signature line. Look at all the repeated insistences that a COLB is not a birth certificate. I'm sorry, but the main issue IS the notion that Obama's birth certificate is invalid/fake/whatever. I've never heard a birther say "I'm sure he was born in HI, I just wish he would be more honest about it."

Exactly. Which is pretty much why I dismissed him as unconvincing.

Birthers cannot be intellectually honest, imo.

 

[washamericom]

stay clear of this thread...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Why do you think Birther's refuse to accept a valid State issued birth certificate?

When obama produces a BC that shows it was accepted by the 1961 state registrar we can talk.

Hey stupid.......you DO realize that a COLB is good enough to get you in the military, right?

SEA BITCH the document obama presented never was accepted by the state registrar of 1961 if the military were doing their job correctly he never would have been allowed in the military.
Oh and by the way citizenship is not needed to be in the military.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

I have no doubt that Obama was born in the USA.
The Census states it records and has recorded the race of the person born during the time in question.

I also have no doubt it records his race the same race as
Stanley Ann Dunham

Madelyn Lee Payne Dunham

As Mr Sutoro was not present at the birth.
That race being "white" ,in short removing Obamas "Base".

 

[Ravi]

Hey, that might actually be true. But who cares? Lots of people in those days were ashamed of black blood so it isn't unimaginable that social pressure would lead his mother to deem him white.

It is also hard to imaging that black people would hold it against him, as you seem to be insinuating.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Thanks for reading my post.

 

[Ravi]

You're welcome.

IMO this repeated insistence that Obama's BC if a fake is nothing but an attempt to bully him into releasing what NO OTHER president has ever even been asked for.

If he releases it, the bullies win.

 

[kiwiman127]

You're welcome.

IMO this repeated insistence that Obama's BC if a fake is nothing but an attempt to bully him into releasing what NO OTHER president has ever even been asked for.

If he releases it, the bullies win.

You should have posted,,,,

"If he releases it, the serious nutjob bullies win."

 

[MarcATL]

Are you or are you not a US citizen if one or more of your parents currently a US citizen?

Was Obama's mother not a US citizen at the time of his birth or no?

Doesn't matter if he was born in Australia, Kalamazoo, Tunisia, Morocco or Great Britain...he's a citizen AUTOMATICALLY simply by being born to one.

You dumb, ignorant, radical, Far RW, mostly racist S.O.B.'s...you're not fooling anyone with your nonsense.

Arizona, I'm talking to you!

 

[Gunny]

You're welcome.

IMO this repeated insistence that Obama's BC if a fake is nothing but an attempt to bully him into releasing what NO OTHER president has ever even been asked for.

If he releases it, the bullies win.

You should have posted,,,,

"If he releases it, the serious nutjob bullies win."

Should have posted ....

"Blind fucks who follow the sheeple's ass in front of them refuse to demand from the left what they do the right."

What was all the flat out lies and crying about GWB's TANG service? Y'all wanted photos of his damned prostate checks and STILL denied he served.

In other words .... piss off, fuckwit.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You're welcome.

IMO this repeated insistence that Obama's BC if a fake is nothing but an attempt to bully him into releasing what NO OTHER president has ever even been asked for.

If he releases it, the bullies win.

You should have posted,,,,

"If he releases it, the serious nutjob bullies win."

Now, guys....these excuses are really, really lame.

If he releases it, and the other side is proven wrong....

...how do they 'win'?

 

[Gunny]

You're welcome.

IMO this repeated insistence that Obama's BC if a fake is nothing but an attempt to bully him into releasing what NO OTHER president has ever even been asked for.

If he releases it, the bullies win.

You should have posted,,,,

"If he releases it, the serious nutjob bullies win."

Now, guys....these excuses are really, really lame.

If he releases it, and the other side is proven wrong....

...how do they 'win'?

What do you expect? He doesn't have to suffer the consequences of that which he's running off at the suck about. New Zealand might as well be a socialist dump.

Their GNP is f-ing kiwi's.

 

[Ravi]

You're welcome.

IMO this repeated insistence that Obama's BC if a fake is nothing but an attempt to bully him into releasing what NO OTHER president has ever even been asked for.

If he releases it, the bullies win.

You should have posted,,,,

"If he releases it, the serious nutjob bullies win."

Now, guys....these excuses are really, really lame.

If he releases it, and the other side is proven wrong....

...how do they 'win'?

You're asking him to proves something that's already been proven.

In other words, he's "different" than other presidents and must prove he is as good as they are...why? I don't know I can only assume it is because he is black. Black people often have to prove they are "good enough."

To bullies.

 

[Gunny]

You should have posted,,,,

"If he releases it, the serious nutjob bullies win."

Now, guys....these excuses are really, really lame.

If he releases it, and the other side is proven wrong....

...how do they 'win'?

You're asking him to proves something that's already been proven.

In other words, he's "different" than other presidents and must prove he is as good as they are...why? I don't know I can only assume it is because he is black. Black people often have to prove they are "good enough."

To bullies.

He hasn't proven shit. The court refused to pursue the matter. Ibn other words, when it suits y'all's lies, it's okay.

Just like the lie he is black. He is not.

The only bullies around here are a bunch of leftwingnut biddies who gang up on every one on the right they can.

 

[Ravi]

See?

Thanks for proving me right, Gunny.

 

[Gunny]

See?

Thanks for proving me right, Gunny.

You just kicked your own ass, dumbass. You're a liar. Or stupid. Pick one. And you ain't doing nothing here but proving how easy it is to kick your delusional ass.

I made MY point. Which you did not address. You cherrypicked your response, as usual, and it was as worthless, as usual.

Proven fact you leftwingdrizzels hold the right tot FAR higher standard than you hold the liars and creeps you vote for.

When one of you dorks can actually explain all the lies Obama hides behind in some form of intelligent manner, feel free. Clue: You ain't it. Get someone with a brain or who lies better to cover your weak ass.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You should have posted,,,,

"If he releases it, the serious nutjob bullies win."

Now, guys....these excuses are really, really lame.

If he releases it, and the other side is proven wrong....

...how do they 'win'?

You're asking him to proves something that's already been proven.

In other words, he's "different" than other presidents and must prove he is as good as they are...why? I don't know I can only assume it is because he is black. Black people often have to prove they are "good enough."

To bullies.

1. If he had 'proven' it, we wouldn't see so many posts about same, would we?

2. "...he's "different" than other presidents ..."
Actually, he ran on being different.

3. "...must prove he is as good as they are."
Well, you're entitled to your 'spin,' but it's just as weak as the other argument.
I personally think he'd be just fine as, say, the under-under secretary of education.

4. "I can only assume it is because he is black."
Every time I hear that argument, I assume it's someone who feels he/she
is trying to show what a good person they are.
You know, like the folks who keep telling you how they bicycle so as to
save the planet.

5. Take a step back, and see how producing the document would end all
the chatter, and save him the millions in court costs. Oops....I mean same the
taxpayer!

But this is fun.