Once you concede on birth control, the rest of it falls apart

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    1.) Had I the inclination I could thoroughly and factually document objectively the historical decline of morality in the U.S. since the advent of The Pill. Conversely, your argument is one based on a thought-foundation of falsified social science and social history, as well as more than a sprinkle of biological sex-biased solipsism.

    2.) And two, your counterargument is reductio ad absurdum. So let us examine for one moment your proposition that militant feminism had the right--any kind of right-- to attempt to equalize men and women sexually with The Pill, or that doing so was good for either women themselves, their unborn children, or our nation. On all fronts, the ideological deals radical American feminism made with historical monsters to justify their socio-cultural push for the right to "screw around" (at any cost) were detrimental to themselves--biologically, to their unborn (100+ million dead and counting), and to society, the demoralization of America via the cultural revolution.

    Thus the contradiction in your counterargument, when reduced to its bases (politically, socially, historically, morally, biologically, culturally, psychologically) is absurd, in that radical American feminists were willing to do whatever it took to be more like men--to do so at any cost morally, however high (100 million dead unborn), just to try to rewrite human biological science; rewrite fact--and they're still doing it today with all of this anti-human, anti-fact LGTBQ crap.

    But, it's okay. You've been brainwashed and conditioned across the spectrum of educational and entertainment outlets to believe these historical lies--such has become your religion, and as you cared to point out, most people cannot renounce their religion in one day.

    Your religion is one of justification for any act based on the moral rationalization for equality, when what you fail to see is that the fundamental amorality of the movements selling the soul of an entire nation to achieve its goals voids any justification or benefit gained.
     
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    Stop trying to make women the center of your idiotic idea of "morality." We don't do the heavy lifting for your penis-worship "religion."
    BTW: not all people believe that having an abortion is "morally" wrong. That's your cult. You deal with it. Most people prefer to use modern tools, like birth control, to avoid such invasive surgery. But you are incapable of understanding this.

    If you want to talk about "morality," go talk to your fellow men. We women do not bear any "moral" burden for you men or for "the nation." The idea of equality has absolutely NOTHING to do with notions of "morality." The availability of competent birth-control measures has absolutely NOTHING to do with any discussion of "morality." Morality, whatever this is, and if it has anything to do with a supreme being, applies to all people, male and female. No, Bubba, we women are not any more responsible than you are. If there is such a thing as "sexual morality," find it, live it, preach it to your own.

    Just don't dump it on the female half of the population. We are not your scapegoats.
     
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    you're a joke _son ....
     
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    and to society ... the demoralization of America via the cultural revolution.


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    cry us a river, son.
     
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    First, try and devise an original, un-indoctrinated and less inanely banal riposte. Un-embrace the stereotype.
     
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    The tried and true and no less banal for it, tattersall "because I said so" response. Instead, embrace and explore the factual intersubjectivity of recorded social history. However, I see your point in refusing to do so: because embracing the historical truth means renouncing your religion of radical revolutionary Leftism--against your will. Can't be removing your brainwashed in justifications for doing wrong, now can you?
     
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    Sadly for our modern society, your ideologically derived social militant feminist folk heroes are the ones who made "it" about women, and by consequence, ignited an open war on their male counterparts and American culture and founding philosophy. Your heroes of the feminist revolution initiated this culture war, and have in their long radical Leftist campaign of fighting it, dragged our great nation down into the morally nihilistic cultural cesspool we now inhabit. All in the name of their own right commit whatever acts of immorality were required to seek their victory, your heroes have committed great and terrible atrocity. Of course you are unable to even acknowledge such truth, because doing so openly is no different than committing highest heresy against the church of militant feminism. Justify away . . . recursively and forever. Such an act comforts you I am certain, yet can never change the truth of American social history--although they certainly have been trying to revise and rewrite it.
     
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    Bullshit. There is no "culture war" except in your sick mind. The penis-worshipers who violated the so-called "sexual morality" did so centuries before the women's movement for equality. You guys who want to fuck anything that is still breathing and then blame it all on women have been around for centuries before "the pill." The penis-worship in religion has been around far longer than "the pill."

    Show me how men have always honored the "moral" commitment to have no sex outside of a consecrated religious marriage and have kept their bodies wholesome as a pure unsullied gift to their new wives and have kept themselves faithful to their wives. Tell us how many of you men have kept yourselves virginal as a sacred vessel until you have taken vows committing yourself and your body to one woman, and then kept those vows.
     
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    Instead, embrace and explore the factual intersubjectivity of recorded social history ...

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    yes, and would require an elevation of objectivity above being brain dead in a tattersall of ignorance ....
     
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    What I read in your response is, "My people cannot be wrong in any level of taboo breaking, simply because your people were doing wrong, either first or all along." What you seem unable to separate your mind from is, or be unable to do, is to make a distinction between positive and overdue women's rights activism, which achieved the winning of much territory in gaining women's rights, as opposed to militant feminist activism, which brought the many negative side and intentional effects on our culture.

    In your seemingly willfully uneducated mind alone, there is no culture war in America today. For the rest of the Western world, the cultural revolution--other wise known as the war on every strata of moral fact as it applies to Western civilization--has been raging for perhaps over nine decades. In academia; in society; in pop and sexual culture; in politics and in religion, this culture war has been fought across America, and patriotic, virtuous, responsible and proud to be Americans have been losing ground every decade. However, they have not been losing this cultural war to some new, morally superior philosophy. We have been losing the culture war to a unified morally nihilistic and relativistic attack on all sacred moral fact and truth, and Americans (supposing you are) like you have been celebrating this descent into abject amorality.

    I suspect the vitriol in the tone of your response can be attributed to a realization somewhere in your mind, and, understandably, that realization upsets you and makes you feel threatened. Certainly a normal enough response in the face of discovering you've been deceived. Trust me, the feeling does pass eventually. The more you know, the easier it is to accept historical truth and draw true parallels between the ancient, near ancient, historically recent and present ages and eras of human civilization.
     

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