Once you concede on birth control, the rest of it falls apart

[Blackrook]

The reason people are so immoral today is because of birth control, which led to promiscuity, adultery, fornication, and finally homosexuality and abortion.

 

[Montrovant]

Well of course, because none of those things happened prior to birth control.

 

[Blackrook]

Well of course, because none of those things happened prior to birth control.

Sin has always existed, but now it is out in the open, and people are not ashamed of it, but celebrate it.

So on top of the sins themselves is the sin of pride, and also the unforgivable sin, blaspheming the holy spirit.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Get this goofy voodoo out here, shaman....

 

[Asclepias]

The reason people are so immoral today is because of birth control, which led to promiscuity, adultery, fornication, and finally homosexuality and abortion.

You do realize all of that stuff is in the bible before birth control was invented right?

 

[bodecea]

The reason people are so immoral today is because of birth control, which led to promiscuity, adultery, fornication, and finally homosexuality and abortion.

INCEL is a great form of birth control.

 

[Asclepias]

Well of course, because none of those things happened prior to birth control.

Sin has always existed, but now it is out in the open, and people are not ashamed of it, but celebrate it.

So on top of the sins themselves is the sin of pride, and also the unforgivable sin, blaspheming the holy spirit.

Which one is it? First you say its all the fault of birth control but when its pointed out these things always existed prior to birth control you change your story?

 

[seaofnails]

I believe that the Catholislamic faith and LAW of banning birth control has only led to all Catholislamic societies becoming filled with abandoned children who have no mother and father together in the home.

All of the Catholic and Muslim men and women who are engaging in sexual activity is not producing families that stay together. Millions upon Millions of abandoned Catholislamic children are being dumped into America because of their mothers and fathers back home have moved on to multiple new sexual partners and the children created from previous marriages are no longer important.

We see millions of Catholic Children around the world who have been created because the Catholic leaders and Catholic Governments have the expectation that the Protestants working class will pay the bills of birthing, raising, housing, feeding, educating and providing a lifetime of healthcare for their Catholic Children. Catholics leaders - look at Protestants as slaves who deserve to have their hard earned money - ripped from their bank accounts to pay for and to fund the sexual journeys, pleasures, adventures, and raptures and joys of the Catholics faithful around the planet.

The U.S. provides aid worth $320 million a year to Mexico. And this is just one single Catholic country out of many, many more. While Catholic Italy - rakes and funnels and sifts in Billions a year running the slavery of the Protestant community into the ground. - Catholics have no family values. Sex, sex and more sex and then bend the protestant over - are their only religious values.

Catholicism and Islam are both - a hump, bump and hump and run - bump and go society.

Muslims especially, are very involved in the religions mass creation, generation, reproduction and in yielding - many, many billions of children. Their women live lifestyles of marriages where in their religion they are allowed to spend a few hours, days or just a couple months involved in a marriage and childbearing of an average 3 - 6 children per woman. In Islam, the woman is allowed to leave their marriage any time the Husband wishes to get a divorce for any reason and for no major reason at all. And the woman can leave all their children with the previous husband and move on to another husband, anytime the new husband wishes her do so.

in - The Islamic Religion, This is normal, So long - as all MALE parties agree. This creates a society of misbegotten children with no families whose mothers are allowed normally to re-marry and divorce on and on unlimited. Many millions of innocent children in Islam simply have no related mothers in the Home and by the time the child reaches adulthood, their real mothers have moved on and on to possibly a very high amount of new husbands and bore many other new children along the way with 4 to up to 12 or more new husbands just in a matter of 20 years and the poor children of the previous marriages are no longer important - to the previous husbands, in comparison to the current children of the current wives. Catholics and Muslims expect to send all children from all past sexual journeys, pleasures, adventures, and raptures and joys to America.

Their religious leaders are in charge and in power - because they make this happen.

Catholics and Muslims are physically forced to - NOT USE BIRTH CONTROL - in areas where the Catholic Church and Islamic Government is in full control. However, in places where their Religious Government is not in control - the citizens are free to live in sin and commit the crime against their god by - using birth control. Any Catholislamic that uses birth control is a direct sin - against their god.

 

[fncceo]

The reason people are so immoral today is because of birth control, which led to promiscuity, adultery, fornication, and finally homosexuality and abortion.

Because they had none of those things before birth control ...

 

[Mr Natural]

The reason people are so immoral today is because of birth control, which led to promiscuity, adultery, fornication, and finally homosexuality and abortion.

So says a loser who couldn’t get laid in a whorehouse with a fist full of fifties.

 

[BreezeWood]

The reason people are so immoral today is because of birth control, which led to promiscuity, adultery, fornication, and finally homosexuality and abortion.

birth control and abortion have the same result and are methods adopted by advanced societies to facilitate modern lifestyles for a just and promising future freed from regressive religious inhibitions.

 

[seaofnails]

Hello there, BreezeWood -

In Fact - The Modern Liberal Democrat - PRO - CHOICE - Societies are united and in a league and in political union with the Catholic and Islamic governments and organizations -

They all work together and unite - in demanding, expecting and requiring that - PRO LIFE - responsible conservative people are to be expected to pay for and financially fund, support and pay for their sexual journeys, pleasures, joys, raptures, and experiences and sexual adventures.

Catholics and Muslims are PRO- CHOICE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS when it comes to politics and governments - this is because they want to use the Military branch of the Liberal Democrat Government to force - other responsible people - to pay for and fund their sexual pleasures and sexual offspring on a global scale..

Please realize that the Catholislamic LAWs on birth control - have nothing to do with technology or a modern advancement in society.

Birth control and abortion, both - have always been practiced by many global societies for many thousands of years.

However, All late term Abortion - has always been murder, when the mother's " physical life " is not at risk or in danger or harm. This is taking the life, breath and blood of a living child in the womb and killing the child. Meaning murder.

--------------------------- All forms of birth control such as pills, condoms and the early withdrawal method of birth control or the pulling out method during intercourse - has nothing to do with taking the life of a living developing child and it is not murder. All Birth Control throughout all of the time in all of history has been outlawed, banned and prohibited by The Catholislamic religious governments. And the advances and developments of modern societies have nothing to do with anything regarding this fact.

Abortion and Birth Control have always been around and the vast majority of the perverted people even in America are not using the advances of modern technology to prevent late - term abortion.

Nothing has changed - Women are still murdering and killing their babies up until the last moments and stages of development. Modern advancements have not changed anything.

People are still evil and still doing the same exact thing before these modern inventions - and Catholics and Muslims are still using evil, perverted and corrupted people to advance their own conquest and power - Catholics and Muslims are willing to use any military power that exists in order to take from, steal from, rob and debase and destroy those who deny their rights to authority, supremacy, and dominance.

 

[BreezeWood]

However, All late term Abortion - has always been murder, when the mother's " physical life " is not at risk or in danger or harm. This is taking the life, breath and blood of a living child in the womb and killing the child. Meaning murder.

- Catholics and Muslims are willing to use any military power that exists in order to take from, steal from, rob and debase and destroy those who deny their rights to authority, supremacy, and dominance.

the courts tend to agree with your first statement however what difference is there for the woman involved prior to birth in her choice for what may or is inside her body - as stated earlier there is no difference in any preventive measures for the result of their decision as all having the same outcome.

your 2nd quote and its exclusion of the 3rd desert religion negates what you have expressed in regards to the unhindered choice being denied as purely a provocative and punitive decision to further your own convoluted personal objective.

 

[seaofnails]

The courts ? There are hundreds of courts. Each state is given its own set of rules to make abortions rules and laws according to the each state.
However - I have provoked nor seduced none.

Women and men make their own choices - I choose for me and my sexual partner - to wait until I am financially able to afford to have sex - and I choose to do with my own earnings what I will or will not do.

I provoke none - and It is not my financial burden or responsibility to fund and pay for the sexual pleasures, adventures, joys, raptures and thrills and sexual journeys of others.

And I do not expect others to hand me cash to pay for my unlimited continually repeated and unbridled sexual failures.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

and It is not my financial burden or responsibility to fund and pay for the sexual pleasures, adventures, joys, raptures and thrills and sexual journeys of others.

Sorry, it is, if we say so. Just like we have said that it is your responsibility to fund public education, medicare, TANF, etc. Welcome to the democratic republic, enjoy your stay.

 

[BreezeWood]

and It is not my financial burden or responsibility to fund and pay for the sexual pleasures, adventures, joys, raptures and thrills and sexual journeys of others.

Sorry, it is, if we say so. Just like we have said that it is your responsibility to fund public education, medicare, TANF, etc. Welcome to the democratic republic, enjoy your stay.

.
I'm sure they have no problem spending everyone's money on the military ... and their favorite chaplain.

 

[night_son]

The reason people are so immoral today is because of birth control, which led to promiscuity, adultery, fornication, and finally homosexuality and abortion.

You are dead on target.

Some Americans wonder exactly what enabled a majority of their fellow countrymen's minds to believe, with absolute confidence and cultist-like intellectual and moral authority, that breaking core social, cultural and religious taboos was not only normal, but also a completely guilt free act; so guilt free that not breaking these taboos, or criticizing those who do, automatically brands such a person as psychologically abnormal, and can even grant them unwanted, immediate social status as a pariah or religious zealot.

In order to discover the source of this American society-wide enabler of universally popular cultural demoralization, legalization of The Pill is a great, and intellectually honest place to start in our American social history. These days mere mention of one's disapproval of the status quo American culture of breaking ancient moral taboo will almost immediately manifest on one's "doorstep" a battalion of decriers seemingly conjured out of thin air, there to excoriate the fellow American who dared either verbally or in writing, to make or take a moral stand by criticizing the prevalent culture of mainstreamed debauchery.

To find and expose this great demoralizing enabler of the modern American mind, we must first dig into historical ground most likely to yield artesian wells full of poisonous ideological water. The activist and lobbyist and judiciary push to legalize The Pill was brought into agency by radical-- or militant American feminism, whose ideologies were in turn derived from cultural Marxism, in turn derived from Pre-Revolution French writers and philosophers and GWF Hegel, with some polluting, fiction based ideological spice from Thomas Moore.

Dig down further, and we discover a prevailing wind of anti-Christian atheism blowing through all of the above philosophies and cultural and political activist movements. See, in order to gain true efficacy of their agency for so-called liberation from eons of sexual oppression, American women needed a Trinity of ideological and physiological and political weapons with which to besiege and even bring down into collapse, the male dominated civilizations of antiquity, on which Western civilization was predicated.

Follow so far?

So what American militant/radical feminist activist leaders did was make a deal with historical devils for their underlying, fundamental ideology. They derived from primarily atheist philosophers and other intellectuals, who despised the ancient moral order of Christianity; this became the ethos of their culture war: anti-male dominated Christianity. Although they did not openly fly the atheist flag, the atheist banner was neatly folded in the back pockets of their newly put on jeans.

However, Marxist-Atheist philosophy wasn't quite enough anti-American, vitriolic bedrock to fully flesh out their total ideological bridge to victory. So what the feminists did was infiltrate American academia, take advance degrees, and in the process, publish papers and books based on falsified social "science" which one, rewrote the history of Western social norms, and two, was absolutely devoured by so-called "repressed baby boomers" post WW2 who couldn't believe what these "official" academic works were giving them permission to do with each other. Boom; they were enabled.

But wait; as we dig farther, there's even more uncover. Now that militant feminist ideology had been cemented and reinforced by then "modern" academia--namely the antipositivist social sciences, they needed a psychological basis upon which to further validate their anti-Christian, anti-Patriarchy crusade. And they found it in spades, in the "cutting edge" work of Sigmund Freud and psychoanalysis.

Next came the need for a physiological enabler, something which would give women the ability to physically break the ancient social religious based taboo of not being able to have as much free sex as men without as much risk of those pesky things growing inside of them, known since time immemorial as: pregnancies.

Along came The Pill, and American ideologue judges willing to legalize it. With The Pill in hand, American women and men were then able to defy ancient taboo and engage in as much free premarital sex--relatively free of unwanted pregnancy--as they desired. The catch was, pregnancies still happened. Mother nature was not to be denied--nor was primordial human biology. So, the radical feminist movement--now firmly entrenched in American academia, politics and rapidly catching on in mainstream society and pop culture, needed an out.

That "out" came in the form of politicized academic "studies" which falsely claimed women who were denied abortions of choice would run to back alley surgeons who were just as likely to kill them and the baby they cared nothing about, as succeed in aborting it. Further, falsified statistical studies also claimed that, without widespread, legalized, abortion on demand, millions of indigent children with no hope of a good life in America or a fair chance at one, would flood hospitals, orphanages and damage the economy and genepool--so they were all better off never having existed at all. This ethos of the need for abortion caught on in political and academic circles, and then Roe happened. With Roe vs. Wade decided, American radical feminists, Cultural Marxists, and militant atheism, all won historically decisive victories, the benefits of which the Radical American Left is still greatly benefitting from in today's America.

What all of the above led us American people and our society to, was and is a world where extreme moral relativism and moral nihilism in every form of popular culture and epistemological academia broadcasts acceptance of radically amoral behavior as normative into the everyday American's mind through nearly every single media medium and outlet.

In other word's this great and colossal Enabler, described above, has programmed all of us to FALSELY believe it is okay to redefine ancient, fundamental right and wrong at will, in order for us to serve and sate whatever entertainment, political, sexual, social, or ideological pleasure or belief we desire. We modern Americans have been brainwashed over the last century to absolutely believe in our RIGHT to do wrong.

Anyone who disagrees with the prevailing American culture of moral decay loudly or intelligently enough to threaten it is shunned, ridiculed, encircled and dismissed--not on moral grounds--but by a majority of other Americans ideologically brainwashed by and whose minds operate on this false belief system and false narrative cooked up by a blend of radical feminism, cultural Marxism and atheistic philosophy, who simply shout them down with their cacophony of hate and lies. These radical left movements and philosophies were then combined to form one colossal self-justifying belief system which any American can use to justify just about any amoral act--no matter how violent or disgusting--and still sleep soundly in their beds at night.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The reason people are so immoral today is because of birth control, which led to promiscuity, adultery, fornication, and finally homosexuality and abortion.

Thank you for that. I thought I was about to run out of dumb shit to read

 

[Lysistrata]

The reason people are so immoral today is because of birth control, which led to promiscuity, adultery, fornication, and finally homosexuality and abortion.

You are dead on target.

Some Americans wonder exactly what enabled a majority of their fellow countrymen's minds to believe, with absolute confidence and cultist-like intellectual and moral authority, that breaking core social, cultural and religious taboos was not only normal, but also a completely guilt free act; so guilt free that not breaking these taboos, or criticizing those who do, automatically brands such a person as psychologically abnormal, and can even grant them unwanted, immediate social status as a pariah or religious zealot.

In order to discover the source of this American society-wide enabler of universally popular cultural demoralization, legalization of The Pill is a great, and intellectually honest place to start in our American social history. These days mere mention of one's disapproval of the status quo American culture of breaking ancient moral taboo will almost immediately manifest on one's "doorstep" a battalion of decriers seemingly conjured out of thin air, there to excoriate the fellow American who dared either verbally or in writing, to make or take a moral stand by criticizing the prevalent culture of mainstreamed debauchery.

To find and expose this great demoralizing enabler of the modern American mind, we must first dig into historical ground most likely to yield artesian wells full of poisonous ideological water. The activist and lobbyist and judiciary push to legalize The Pill was brought into agency by radical-- or militant American feminism, whose ideologies were in turn derived from cultural Marxism, in turn derived from Pre-Revolution French writers and philosophers and GWF Hegel, with some polluting, fiction based ideological spice from Thomas Moore.

Dig down further, and we discover a prevailing wind of anti-Christian atheism blowing through all of the above philosophies and cultural and political activist movements. See, in order to gain true efficacy of their agency for so-called liberation from eons of sexual oppression, American women needed a Trinity of ideological and physiological and political weapons with which to besiege and even bring down into collapse, the male dominated civilizations of antiquity, on which Western civilization was predicated.

Follow so far?

So what American militant/radical feminist activist leaders did was make a deal with historical devils for their underlying, fundamental ideology. They derived from primarily atheist philosophers and other intellectuals, who despised the ancient moral order of Christianity; this became the ethos of their culture war: anti-male dominated Christianity. Although they did not openly fly the atheist flag, the atheist banner was neatly folded in the back pockets of their newly put on jeans.

However, Marxist-Atheist philosophy wasn't quite enough anti-American, vitriolic bedrock to fully flesh out their total ideological bridge to victory. So what the feminists did was infiltrate American academia, take advance degrees, and in the process, publish papers and books based on falsified social "science" which one, rewrote the history of Western social norms, and two, was absolutely devoured by so-called "repressed baby boomers" post WW2 who couldn't believe what these "official" academic works were giving them permission to do with each other. Boom; they were enabled.

But wait; as we dig farther, there's even more uncover. Now that militant feminist ideology had been cemented and reinforced by then "modern" academia--namely the antipositivist social sciences, they needed a psychological basis upon which to further validate their anti-Christian, anti-Patriarchy crusade. And they found it in spades, in the "cutting edge" work of Sigmund Freud and psychoanalysis.

Next came the need for a physiological enabler, something which would give women the ability to physically break the ancient social religious based taboo of not being able to have as much free sex as men without as much risk of those pesky things growing inside of them, known since time immemorial as: pregnancies.

Along came The Pill, and American ideologue judges willing to legalize it. With The Pill in hand, American women and men were then able to defy ancient taboo and engage in as much free premarital sex--relatively free of unwanted pregnancy--as they desired. The catch was, pregnancies still happened. Mother nature was not to be denied--nor was primordial human biology. So, the radical feminist movement--now firmly entrenched in American academia, politics and rapidly catching on in mainstream society and pop culture, needed an out.

That "out" came in the form of politicized academic "studies" which falsely claimed women who were denied abortions of choice would run to back alley surgeons who were just as likely to kill them and the baby they cared nothing about, as succeed in aborting it. Further, falsified statistical studies also claimed that, without widespread, legalized, abortion on demand, millions of indigent children with no hope of a good life in America or a fair chance at one, would flood hospitals, orphanages and damage the economy and genepool--so they were all better off never having existed at all. This ethos of the need for abortion caught on in political and academic circles, and then Roe happened. With Roe vs. Wade decided, American radical feminists, Cultural Marxists, and militant atheism, all won historically decisive victories, the benefits of which the Radical American Left is still greatly benefitting from in today's America.

What all of the above led us American people and our society to, was and is a world where extreme moral relativism and moral nihilism in every form of popular culture and epistemological academia broadcasts acceptance of radically amoral behavior as normative into the everyday American's mind through nearly every single media medium and outlet.

In other word's this great and colossal Enabler, described above, has programmed all of us to FALSELY believe it is okay to redefine ancient, fundamental right and wrong at will, in order for us to serve and sate whatever entertainment, political, sexual, social, or ideological pleasure or belief we desire. We modern Americans have been brainwashed over the last century to absolutely believe in our RIGHT to do wrong.

Anyone who disagrees with the prevailing American culture of moral decay loudly or intelligently enough is shunned, ridiculed, encircled and dismissed--not on moral grounds--but by a majority of other Americans ideologically brainwashed by and whose minds operate on this false belief system and false narrative cooked up by a blend of radical feminism, cultural Marxism and atheistic philosophy, who simply shout them down with their cacophony of hate and lies. These radical left movements and philosophies were then combined to form one colossal self-justifying belief system which any American can use to justify just about any amoral act--no matter how violent or disgusting--and still sleep soundly in their beds at night.

Such total bullshit. Men have proven over and over, before the advent of the "pill," that sexual conduct has absolutely nothing to do with any teachings of a Supreme Being or any notion of "right and wrong," Christian or otherwise. Stop trying to blame everything on women. The "pill" only has allowed women to catch up to where men have been all along. If the Creator has been so against sex outside of marriage, more real estate has to have been gotten for Hell to be able to house the millions of male souls cast down there over the centuries for having sex outside of marriage. Heck, in the U.S. alone, the military chiefs have worried about the STD rates among the troops long before the "pill" was ever invented.

Why do you decry people for being against patriarchy? It's founded upon the worship of the human penis. What is the point of worshiping human genitals? They go into the grave along with the rest of the body.

Your theories are stupid, but in keeping with the crap being pushed by sexually obsessed people who think that they are "Christian." What a disgrace.

 

[keepitreal]

The reason people are so immoral today is because of birth control, which led to promiscuity, adultery, fornication, and finally homosexuality and abortion.

Come on now...that statement is ridiculous