Once Upon A Time.....A Fairy Tale of American Democracy

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    Despite the cacophony and chaos that has become the hallmark of congressional town hall health care reform meetings as of late, the President has nonetheless elected to embark on a series of his own.

    Filled with pride, his supporters dutifully tout his bravery in the face of flagging poll numbers and dogged opposition. They swoon at the sight of their champion riding off to battle the forces of fear and hysteria with his cool demeanor, soft-spoken logic and zen-like rationality. They point to the subdued and respectful tone of his audiences as evidence that the fury over health care has reached it's zenith and will soon subside. Logic and reason will win the day and their knight in shining armor will deliver peace to the land and health care to it's weary people.

    However, a closer, more objective look reveals something distinctly different from the fairy tale the President's supporters so eagerly espouse with starry-eyed devotion.

    Are the President's forums more civil and placid in comparison to their raucous congressional counterparts? Clearly, but one should remain mindful of a few facts.

    First, despite our partisan passions and philosophical differences, the vast majority of Americans remain respectful of the institution and office of the presidency. Regardless of the individual, there is a level of decorum and propriety that is inherent to the office. He is The President of the United States, a title of unrivaled weight and distinction in both our political system and national history.

    Furthermore, beyond these intangible elements and social customs, there is the very real and tangible presence of the highly-trained, well-armed and psychologically-intimidating Secret Service. Should someone be so bold and dim-witted as to attempt to get in the President's face and shout him down, they would quickly find themselves forcefully removed from the venue and facing potential federal charges. The combination of these elements create an imposing atmosphere that discourages the catcalls and confrontations that have greeted Representatives and Senators in the dog days of their August break.

    Indeed, despite the earnest hopes of the President's supporters, the fury over health care reform rages unabated. Moreover, in spite of his best efforts, the President's attempts to extinguish the populist wildfire have been for naught. Neither prime time White House press conferences nor intimate town hall meetings have had any impact whatsoever on public opinion towards the overhaul of the nation's health care system or their understanding of the details and components of the competing proposals.

    Why is that, you ask? Because the President, much like the nation itself, knows dangerously little of the proposals' specifics. Nor, as demonstrated by his erroneous assertion of an AARP endorsement, does he know who supports what.

    How can that be, you ask? Because the President is following and not leading.

    Despite the President's references to "his proposals", the White House has failed to produce any bill whatsoever. Indeed, the confusing and contentious proposals at the heart of the conflagration are products of the House and Senate. Adding to the disoriented discourse is the fact the Senate bill remains a work in progress, still in the hands of negotiators in no less than three committees.

    In light of the President's deference to the leadership of the House and Senate in drafting the proposals for health care reform, perhaps he and the nation would be better served if the authors of the bills, the committee chairs, Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid would take point in leading us through this steamy legislative jungle. Put the Speaker of the "People's House" in front of the people themselves, place the Majority Leader in front of the majority of Americans.

    Pelosi and Reid are the elected leaders of the Democratic Party in Congress. They should embrace the principal enshrined in their party's name and eagerly engage in the discourse of our democracy. Allow them to unequivocally demonstrate that the courage of their convictions is equal to their desire for the speedy passage of their proposals. Indeed, if they wish to be the architects of the Republic's future, let them be as forthright as those who laid it's foundation in the past. That dialogue, between the people and their elected representatives is at the very heart of American democracy, after all.

    Then again, perhaps that is nothing more than a quaint fable from the fairy tales of yore.

    Once upon a time, faithful readers. Once upon a time in America.......

    Stay tuned for further updates as events warrant and we see if there is indeed a happy ending to this story.
     
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    ROFLMNAO... did you just project 'logic and reason' upon a Leftist policy?

    LOL... Oh GOD that's precious.

    ALL Leftist policy is irrational... it is based upon lies, deception and ethereal myth...

    It's nonsense in it's entirety...
     
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    Ah Pubic, are you soft pedeling your feeling again?
     
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    Yep, fury supported by the fellow that stole 1.7 billion dollars from Medicare. You people are spineless little sheep. Easily led by the most felonious of charlatans.
     
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    I love the smell of irony in the evening.
     
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    and what felonious Charlatan are you following Rocks?....do you ever think about some of the shit that you spew?....
     
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    President Obama's is investing $311 million in the fiscal 2010 budget to fight fraud, waste and abuse in the Medicare program, a 50 percent increase over this year.During the Bush administration, Congress committed scant new funds to combat fraud. Hell his "birth control czar" resigned because of Medicaid fraud in his private practice!

    Following hours of arm twisting, some back room bribery deals, and improper vote that violated House rules, the RepubliCONS approved and Dubya signed, the BILLION SCAM to prohibit negotiating with drug manufacturers for drugs. Medicare pays $785 for a year's supply of Lipitor (atorvastatin), while the VA pays $520. Medicare pays $1,485 for Zocor, while the VA pays $127.

    Former Congressman Billy Tauzin, R-La., who steered the bill through the House, retired soon after and took a $2 million a year job as president of Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA), the main industry lobbying group. Medicare boss Thomas Scully, who threatened to fire Medicare Chief Actuary Richard Foster if he reported how much the bill would actually cost, was negotiating for a new job as a pharmaceutical lobbyist as the bill was working through Congress. Medicare Part D - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Former RepubliCON Senate Leader Bill Frist's who was a MAJOR stockholder in his family's HCA Inc. & CEO RICK SCOTT Ripped Off Taxpayers, Charged Medicare For Tiffany Pitchers. A GAO audit found Rick Scott’s Hospital Corporation of America overcharged Medicare for nearly $ 1.1 million in “expenses that auditors have called questionable, unallowable or unsubstantiated.” Examples include:“$53,657 for trips to Italy, Belgium and Australia, made in connection with the sale of foreign hospitals, which don’t usually serve Medicare patients,$52,487 for employee Christmas gifts that included,$17,755 for booze at various employee meetings and functions,$14,912 for Tiffany pitchers for hospital executives.”

    HCA paid $1.7 billion fines and restitution for Medicare FRAUD.

    RICK SCOTT runs the company spending MILLIONS of $$$ on TV ads opposing health care reform.

    http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/h...-credit-for-helping-gin-up-town-hall-rallies/
     
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    "The mob is man voluntarily descending to the nature of the beast "¦ Its actions are insane like its whole constitution." Ralph Waldo Emerson
    It's frustrating when your party is out of power and you think the other guys are doing it all wrong. Believe me, I know. But when it comes to health care reform, the conservatives are resorting to mob action, and it isn't pretty. A recently leaked political action memo by Fairfield's Bob MacGuffie of the Tea Party Patriots profiles strategies the group used at a town hall meeting held by Congressman Jim Himes in May. It shows that, contrary to the narrative the GOP is trying to sell about an organic groundswell of public discontent, these protests are being carefully orchestrated. Organized protest is one thing, but what these guys are doing is trying to obstruct meaningful debate.

    You need to rock -the -boat early in the Rep's presentation. Watch for an opportunity to yell out and challenge the Rep's statement's early "¦ The purpose is to make him uneasy early on and to set the tone for the hall as clearly informal, and free-wheeling. The goal is to rattle him, to get him off his prepared script and agenda. If he says something outrageous, stand up and shout out and sit right down.

    MacGuffie's memo was posted to a Tea Party listserv, which includes anti-health reform organizations like Conservatives for Patients Rights, Patients First (an affiliate of Americans for Prosperity) and Freedom Works.


    July 24, Conservatives for Patients Rights sent a spreadsheet to another Tea Party listserv detailing more than 100 congressional town halls. These are now listed on the organization's Web site, along with videos of successfully disrupted events.

    Let's look at whom we're dealing with here. CPR is led by Richard Scott, who was ousted as head of for-profit health care company Columbia/HCA in 1997 after an FBI investigation that led to 14 felony convictions and $1.7 billion in criminal and civil fines for Medicare fraud. Oh yeah, and CRC Public Relations, who works with CPR, are the same lovely folks behind the "Swift Boat" ads.

    Tactics have nothing to do with debate - Greenwich Time
     
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    Harry, old boy, you knew exactly who I was talking about.
     

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